KB, you are grasping at straws here. Yeah I have a Canadian corp to get around US taxes, give me a fucking break. You know nothing about business.

Join 4 Free should sue your ass into the ground for selling their hacked list.

KB, if you had a Monday meeting and it did not happen, make it happen, house and ferrari is nice but if you don't have your word you don't have shit. Even when things are ugly, do as you say your going to do and make that Monday discussion happen today on Tues.

Before I beat your ass :-)

BTW, I am going to get ahold os Zimm (owner of join 4 free), maybe he wants to comment on the HOLY KB selling a STOLEN Join 4 Free list.

I am sticking to the facts, you keeping throwing shit out there KB. Its all you have.

Ummm, I think you just notified him via GFY.

I want to hear you both had your meeting today. KB do the right thing, make the call even if you don't get anywhere, and Brad be reasonable in the event he is not liquid at the moment. Work it out.

Lee, KB does not live up to his end of deals. He gave me his word, he broke it. I shut up for several days, to give him a chance to get his cards in order. IMHO, he is a shady businessman and people should stay away from him. He fucked me, he could fuck you next!

Uh....Why do I find this so damn funny? :1orglaugh

BTW, I am uploading a 50 meg zip right now, should be done in about 15 mins. Anyone who wants these KB lists can have them. Be warned though! Also, if you own a big program, I would check these out..........

"Brad be reasonable in the event he is not liquid at the moment"

That is the line of the day.

Lee-

Do me a favor as a friend, and BUD out of this-
You aren't a litigator, arbitrator, or even a third party here-

Brad knows he bought a list from someone other than me.
He knows my fingerprints are NOT on the jewel case-

He also knows the lists are NOT what he thought they were-
But he still sends the list anyway- Ray has the seeds-

Have Zimm call me- I offered to help him once before.
I think the real reason no one wants to follow up with me is that NO ONE wants to believe who was selling their OWN friends out-

Truth be told- if you track down the original sellers of these lists I wouldn't be too surprised if they go back to the SOURCE in many cases...

That is in my opinion.

I told Brad I'd like to get him the info- I went to the bank and consulted with my attorney my attorney says I don't have to produce anyting for him- Truth is the account in PHX was closed-didn't have the guy's name on the account anyway

The emails served as a contract and had no recision clause or explanation of refunding any money

I feel bad Brad got what he felt was a bad list- but I know he made his money back.


And I feel no pity for him for the trouble he has caused me.
Brad you want to play ?

Bring it on- I may have nothing but I have friends that hate you more than you can ever imagine- and many of them have BIG $$$

I'd be very careful what you do or say in the future for many people are watching you boy, and waiting for you to make a wrong move.

I am done talking about this if you want Ray's number and address you can ICQ me- you know the ICQ #

Brad, I sympathasize, and KB needs to contact you, your not being unreasonable. I think he got involved in a deal that has come back on him like a bad case of reflux. But your right, one has to honor their word, and your asking for discussion, and I hope you both hook up.

KB is in a bad spot, he obviously was not aware of the origin of this email list if you give him the benefit of the doubt, if he made more than 1K bank, its all spent I am sure, we all love money.

You may not get your money back Brad, but it costs nothing for KB to work it out with you on the phone. Sounds like KB was trusting on the product he brokered, and he kinda is a victim too left to deal with heat.

Boys work it out.

KB pick up the fucking phone and call Brad NOW.

Where's the list, bro?

Handle your shit in private. Be careful about what you go dragging out into the open.

Brad has any reason to bitch about it. If you cannot personally guarantee for what you sell, do not sell it. It's simple as that.

KB, I wired you the $. Who gives a fuck about fingerprints, this is not a criminal FBI matter. Your true colors are coming out. You are no businessman, and anyone doing business with you is taking a risk IMHO.

BTW, the only RAY friend had nothing to do with this. So no friend of mine named Ray fucked me, YOU fucked me.

KB, I have not mailed these lists, period. Post some emails....... I imagine this list was sold to more than just me......

I am glad you have rich friends, these are the same friends that will not do business with you, because you are a freaking idiot. Sure they will hang out, smoke a joint and have a good time. Even many of your friends will not do biz with you, what does that say. I have been told over and over against by YOUR friends, "brad what do you expect, I love KB but would never do biz with him".

Lee you hit the nail on the head-
HOWEVER

After fucking with me the way Brad has I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO HELP HIM.

He has been maliciously attacking people on boards to hype his own content sales-

I saw this coming from a mile away when this blowout thing happened- he turns everything into a circus.

I won't play that game.

Lee is Brad needs inof he has got it-
He doesn't have the guts to call the seller and get it back.

He is afraid of shitting his pants

http://www.bradshawlive.com/kbfuckedme/lists.zip

Here it is kids, be warned, this list is trouble. After all, it came from KB!

Good one Brad

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KB, post the idiots info and I will handle it from there. I want more than a phone # and a RAY, sounds BS to me. You telling me you do not know who you sell lists for? Give me a break.

Thanks! :glugglug

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Those aren't even the lists I was told were sent to YOU-

NOW THIS IS GETTING HYSTERICAL

I am done playing "duck , duck , goose with you little boy-

You know where you can get the info to get your money back - but I haven't received an email...

Sp people once again-
enjoy the show.

I have better things to do with my time than piss with little boys...

KB, who in the fuck are you going off on?

Not trying to litigate, arbitrate or mediate, the solution is so simple here but if you want to make this a players event, bet the farm, and when shit turns on you, and wonder where the love is, remember the day you asked those very same people to "Bud out".

Whatever.

I have to agree with Brad on this matter.


If someone fucked me out of big money, I sure would want to know who it was.

This person wants to remain stealth or whatever, but to be a business offering services can't go that route.

KB, those are the lists, you know those are the lists. Why the fuck would I post different email lists.... You are up to something shady. BTW, I JUST spoke to the owner of Join 4 Free, he told me his lawyer sent you a letter and you have until the end of this month to reply... Maybe check your mailbox once in a while.

I would think that a broker needs to assume a decent amount of responsibility for the deal. Whether they're a middleman or not, they still negotiated the deal and made it happen. Why would anyone trust a broker that led them to a shit deal?

Oh well, there's obviously more to this story...

Lee I have a lot of respect for you-

But I have to tell you that in this matter- you are a "Jilly come lately" :-))

If you knew all the peripheral BS this little fucker tried to put me through and the shit he is hiding-

Then you'd realize there is much more to this story-
The moral of this fable is

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN"T THROW STONES"


I Lived up to my part of the bargain- I answered his ICQ and told him the guy's name and phone number he didn't wanna hear it-

Lee all I am saying is-

This is not a CP debate with Andy Edmond, or an ACACIA rant

This is a private matter that he chose to take public- because he didn't get his way.


Truth be told now- I ONLY WISHED I could have pocketed $17,000 off Brad-

I would consider that quite an accomplishment- being that he is SUCH a smart business man.





:Graucho

Maybe a legal letter would be sent certified mail???


I already told Zimm in PHX where I stood on the matter-

KB, check your mailbox. RE: Letter from Join 4 Free legal counsel.... That $17k you fucked me out of will be pennies when you have to hire a real lawyer.

As for putting you through BS, you have not seen shit yet. Keep running your mouth. Just do not come running back to me like you did last Friday begging me to back off as you could not handle the pressure.

KB, maybe you need to cal Zimm, I just spoke to him and thats exactly what he told me. I then thanked him for doing my dirty work for me.

I just want to go on record as saying it takes a lot of fun out of these back and forth shitting matches when the participants can't put in the minimal amount of effort it takes to write coherent sentences.

Ok, back to the whining.

KB, I am still waiting on the info of this "ray" character. I am sure you will live up to you word one of these days!

KB, my darling, you know I love you but all I wanted to to see is a NON escalation. You know damn well you are reloading this thread even if you do not participate.

From the time you entered this thread, you could have worked this out in private, now all kinds of things have happend that would not have had you contacted Brad on the fucking phone.

I do not need to know all the facts as I am not mediating this and not choosing sides. But in less than a hour the heat has been turned up a notch and this is not necessary.

This is gonna continue to escalate and what used to be a phone call and discussion is going to be the potential involvement of attorneys.

Why?

Hand me your pride for safe keeping and I will give it back to you in 30 minutes.

Brad gave you the opps to work it out ongoing, you breached the communication, it does not take a "Jilly" to figure that out.

I am disapointed in your KB, not for getting involved in a bad deal that you had no idea was a bad deal but your lack of equal enthusiasm to handle a deal gone bad.

You brokered, your in the equation, your left to clean it up. Brad asked for more communication, he should not be having to chase you down and you should NOT be allowing this to escalate on a message board.

The damage is done in the last hour is shameful.

Brad will you call KB, or KB call Brad and work this out.

While this thread continues to escalate I just wanna send a big shout out to the super pimp Legendary Lars.

Thanks, now keep escalating.:glugglug

:1orglaugh

Still no ICQ from Brad-

He chooses the open forum to make me look bad-

BRAD I AM SITTING HERE WAITING FOR YOUR ICQ

So I can tell you what you need-

I am not being difficult here Lee-

I am stating the facts-
If brad wants answers Brad needs to CONTACT ME.

Brad, contact KB in ICQ please.

Continue discussions please, this is getting out of control.

Brad?

Thats the KB I know, if he does not contact you in ICQ, call him, surely you have the phone.

My brother my biggest fear is this Ray guy is not going to be found and your going to pay for his lack of ethics instead.

End this mess KB, you got the power.

Da' Phone Da' Phone, and if Brad does not take the call then the next hour will be about him :-)

Brad answer the phone.

So you dont actually know what Brad got for his money?

Brad is showing away on my icq. Prolly out to lunch.. :-)

Still NO ICQ from brad at 11:53 am PST

I don't have your icq number brad I put you on ignore- so add me an icq me or send me your number-


Otherwise I can't be of any service....

Exactly

Never got a copy of anything....

ABE FROMAN?

The Sausage King Of Chicago?