New Paysite Script - Check it out!

**Carrie** · 08-12-2003, 07:29 AM

I think it could be improved by having a comprehensive referer page listing in there, including full search query URLs.

**FuqALot** · 08-12-2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
I think it could be improved by having a comprehensive referer page listing in there, including full search query URLs.

Thanks for your comment - always looking for opinions.

Yes, it could be added as an extra piece of information, although the main idea is to track the tour itself. - But if there are more requests I could add it, cos yeah, too much information is never enough ;).

**Paul -C-** · 08-13-2003, 01:14 AM

I'm using this script and it's a great way of locating any problems in the tour

**fiveyes** · 08-13-2003, 01:33 AM

Looks good! And I'll second Carrie's suggestion, can't have too much information when tracking visitors. Maybe even offering the option of displaying a separate graph for each referer could be used to ferret out unusual traffic patterns that might be otherwise overlooked.

**Jakke PNG** · 08-13-2003, 01:35 AM

Referring urls, and info on those would be nice. It would be excellent to see from which url the signups originate.

**goBigtime** · 08-13-2003, 01:36 AM

(I'll be nice & let him suck up all the money)

**goBigtime** · 08-13-2003, 01:45 AM

I doubt this guy had this script done in two days.

For $25 it's a steal

**FuqALot** · 08-13-2003, 01:48 AM

Thanks guys, I'll take a look at the referring option

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And goBigtime, I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your post, but I'm sure this script was made way before you had that idea.

**Johny Traffic** · 08-13-2003, 01:50 AM

That could be of interest

**goBigtime** · 08-13-2003, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot

And goBigtime, I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your post, but I'm sure this script was made way before you had that idea.

I had the idea (actually I was USING the idea) ~1997

I was planning to release it to the public about a year ago (when we started messing around with the powertools site) but got sidetracked after our first 6 or 7 scripts.

But I was talking to a couple of clients about it a few days ago and started working on it a couple days ago.

Just sort of strange timing...

Anyway, if I thought there was any foul play I would have left up the no-bells freebie log parsing version.

So good work & enjoy

**flashfreak** · 08-13-2003, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
I think it could be improved by having a comprehensive referer page listing in there, including full search query URLs.

exactly!
your script is interresting but as it is right now it's very simple.
it's just a (very) simple stats script customized for adult sites...
add more stuff and people will buy it..

**goBigtime** · 08-13-2003, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by flashfreak

your script is interresting but as it is right now it's very simple.

As-is the script kicks ass for local fine-tuning of initial visit : signup conversions.

I think some of you guys might be missing the point of the script.

I know a lot of the big guys out there know just what this script is for though -- since they have been fine tuning their tours to maximize sales (regardless of where the traffic is coming from) for years.

FuqAlot is just being nice by saying he'll look at the referring url option

.... it's irrelevant & would complicate things too much.

This is paysite signup conversion tuner in it's purest form... why do you want to mess around with ref logs? If you want to see your refs, or what SE keywords brought the surfer there, go install Webalizer or something, it's free & it's probably one of the best log file analyzers out there.

But this script isn't a really a "web stats" program as much as it is a tool for specficially designed for helping you improve your initial PAYSITE CONVERSION RATIOS.

Get it?

**FuqALot** · 08-13-2003, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime

As-is the script kicks ass for local fine-tuning of initial visit : signup conversions.

That's right. - When you're really into the 'too much information is never enough' thing, you could display these stats by referer aswell. But eventually it's about initial visits; that's why i didn't add a referer option in the first place. It's about improving conversions.

**Carrie** · 08-13-2003, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime
This is paysite signup conversion tuner in it's purest form... why do you want to mess around with ref logs? If you want to see your refs, or what SE keywords brought the surfer there, go install Webalizer or something, it's free & it's probably one of the best log file analyzers out there.

But this script isn't a really a "web stats" program as much as it is a tool for specficially designed for helping you improve your initial PAYSITE CONVERSION RATIOS.

Get it?

Different traffic from different sources might do better being directed to a different page in the tour, to a differently tweaked tour - different traffic reacts differently.
Get it?

**dij** · 08-13-2003, 03:09 AM

How about tracking exactly what image surfers click more on your tour.
This will be especially usefull for tours which has tons of graphical texts, and images on their tours.
Just name each slice with it's specific name, and track them.

Just an idea

**FuqALot** · 08-13-2003, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by dij
How about tracking exactly what image surfers click more on your tour.
This will be especially usefull for tours which has tons of graphical texts, and images on their tours.
Just name each slice with it's specific name, and track them.

Just an idea

That would require a comepletely different script.
This script tracks the visitors on the tour and its tourpages.
It won't hurt you to know what banners really pull, but eventually it's all about knowing what they think of the tourpage itself, and where they leave your tour.

**dij** · 08-13-2003, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot

That would require a comepletely different script.

I agree, just had an idea and thought I'd share

**FuqALot** · 08-13-2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by flashfreak

exactly!
your script is interresting but as it is right now it's very simple.
it's just a (very) simple stats script customized for adult sites...
add more stuff and people will buy it..

btw, It's not a stats script. It tracks your surfers. Tells you what path they take until they reached the joinpage, where they leave the tourpage etc. A simple stats script would only count the hits on every tourpage.

**Paul -C-** · 08-15-2003, 03:07 AM

Cmon guys! This is a great script which WILL improve your ratios when you use it. Yes it's simple, but it does exactly what I needed. It's a very inexpensive way to improve your tour.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by Carrie

Different traffic from different sources might do better being directed to a different page in the tour, to a differently tweaked tour - different traffic reacts differently.
Get it?

Its $25.

But generally if you tweak something with your tours, and it increases the sales for traffic type a, traffic type b will also have an increase. It will be across the board.

Most people do all their conversion tweaking before the site is publicly released (to affiliate programs) anyway.

But I understand what you're suggesting - doubt you're going to get it for $25 though

**Roald** · 08-15-2003, 03:22 AM

Script looks pretty tight, and for $25 you almost can't go wrong. Good job

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot

....but eventually it's all about knowing what they think of the tourpage itself, and where they leave your tour.

Exactly.

Knowing the weak points in your tour is what its all about.

You want to work it so the highest # of people go from your index page to your join page. It doesn't matter really if they hit your tour pages or not, if you can get them (willingly) to go right from Index -> Join. (skpping tour)

With this script you can statistically SEE where your visitors are going, and compare your tweaked pages (days) against each other.

Ie..

1. you set up a new paysite.
2. Day one - send 5,000 - 50,000 hits to it (depending on source)
3. View your results.
4. Make some changes
5. Day two - repeat & test results

Keep doing this and comparing the days against each other to maximize your initial sales conversions.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 03:24 AM

At this point, I'm only hyping it because it was something that WE were working on before FuQalot released his version (he beat us to the market)...

So when people critisize it, or fail to understand what its about... it's almost like them critisizing one of my own ideas or creations

**IMP^or^SNiTL.e** · 08-15-2003, 03:41 AM

not bad want hosting in exchange for the script?

**DutchTeenCash** · 08-15-2003, 03:55 AM

we tried http://www.clicktracks.com some months ago really nice but expensive and they didnt have some options we were lookin for, but basically the idea is the same you should ask more then $25

**FuqALot** · 08-15-2003, 03:55 AM

Thanks guys.

goBigtime, you got it all right thanks for explaining it.

IMP^or^SNiTL.e, I'm quite happy with my hosting :-).

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:02 AM

pretty easy script to make... 10-20 minute job.

**FuqALot** · 08-15-2003, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by Alky
pretty easy script to make... 10-20 minute job.

Pretty lame reply to make.

And definitely not a 10-20 job, but then again, I don't know anything about the 'quality' of your scripts.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot

Pretty lame reply to make.

And definitely not a 10-20 job, but then again, I don't know anything about the 'quality' of your scripts.

im just saying its easy to make, not saying its worthless. calm down. with php and sessions, its pretty simple. hope that reply is as lame as the first.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by IMP^or^SNiTL.e
not bad want hosting in exchange for the script?

Not for nothin, but I would be a little afraid to host with you if you can't scrape up $25 for a script as valueable as this.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot
Thanks guys.

goBigtime, you got it all right thanks for explaining it.

Yeah yeah.. damn you again for releasing it before ours

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Alky
pretty easy script to make... 10-20 minute job.

Did you even bother going to the guys website and checking the script out before you made your comment?

If you can code THAT script in 10-20 minutes, with an intuitive administration & stats interface as that... I want to hire you.

Alky, anyone who codes knows you are just talking shit.

I hate it when people say "Haha I can do that in 12 keystrokes" but they have shit to back up their claim.

Like yesterday when we were talking about the overture keyword script, TRax comes in and sais something like "haha I know of at least 10 places to get something that can do the exact same thing for free" -- of course when called on it,

Trax backed down & didn't produce.

So here you go Alky....show us GFY'ers what you've got...

Make your 20 minute version.

I'll even give you 60 minutes -- and you don't even have to do any spec'ing since you would just be COPYING what exists as you see it.

Put up or STFU.

But hey, if you do it.. I'm sure there will be a TON of people wanting to hire you - so theres your incentive even. (but you wont touch it.. you'll just disappear from the thread & your ridiculous comment)

**FuqALot** · 08-15-2003, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by Alky
im just saying its easy to make, not saying its worthless. calm down. with php and sessions, its pretty simple. hope that reply is as lame as the first.

Na, this reply is even more lame.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:42 AM

im not disappearing anywhere... i need to prove nothing to you. as for incentive that i will get hired, wow, no thanks.

stats... thats hard.

and what the hell is an intuitive admin?

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by Alky
stats... thats hard.

that was sarcastic by the way

you both need to calm down a little. can't take much criticism, huh?

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by Alky
im not disappearing anywhere... i need to prove nothing to you. as for incentive that i will get hired, wow, no thanks.

stats... thats hard.

and what the hell is an intuitive admin?

The quoted post above is an act of 'disappearence' from backing up your bs claim.

And STATS is what this script is ALL about Alky.

Being able to easily compare the two periods against each other.

in·tu·i·tive adj.
Possessing or demonstrating intuition

in·tu·i·tion n.

1. a. The act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes; immediate cognition.

b. Knowledge gained by the use of this faculty; a perceptive insight.

2. A sense of something not evident or deducible; an impression.

**FuqALot** · 08-15-2003, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by Alky
that was sarcastic by the way

you both need to calm down a little. can't take much criticism, huh?

Oh sure I can take criticism, it makes me do my job well.
But the way you're doing it by jumping into this thread like that, is not really mature. But on the other hand, thanks for bumping the thread.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime

The quoted post above is an act of 'disappearence' from backing up your bs claim.

And STATS is what this script is ALL about Alky.
Being able to easily compare the two periods against each other.

and im saying stats are the easiest part of a script, especially one like this.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by Alky

can't take much criticism, huh?

Where was the criticism? All I saw was you walking in and making an idiotic claim that you can make this script in 10-20 minutes.

It's like you walking into a museum of art with a beer in your hand looking at a monet and saying "psssh! My 3 year old niece makes paintings like this all day long!"

No class.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Alky
and im saying stats are the easiest part of a script, especially one like this.

No doubt for a code its an easy script to code.

It could be done in a day or two (fully tested for public distribution) -- once you had it all spec'd out as to what you wanted it do (which, unless you were looking at something pre-existing like this for ideas, would take you another day to think about everything you might want it to be able to do)

But you didn't say a day or two - you said 10-20 minutes.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime

Where was the criticism? All I saw was you walking in and making an idiotic claim that you can make this script in 10-20 minutes.

It's like you walking into a museum of art with a beer in your hand looking at a monet and saying "psssh! My 3 year old niece makes paintings like this all day long!"

No class.

well then i am classless in your eyes i suppose. i never said i could make it in 10-20 minutes, i was merely saying that its an easy script to make. one function, included on every page can handle the entire stat tracking. tell me i am wrong. and prove it.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by Alky
pretty easy script to make... 10-20 minute job.

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by Alky
i never said i could make it in 10-20 minutes

tell me i am wrong. and prove it.

I already told you that you were wrong with what you initially said & requested that YOU prove what YOU said. But now you want to try to back out of it... I mean cmon' alky, it's only 10-20 minutes of your time right?

Post some code man.

I have no claim here & nothing to prove other than that your comment was absurd.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 05:14 AM

calling the function at the top on each page, will produce an array in the session var $pages. you could either keep track of the user page by page in a database using the users session id, or you could just load the data in that variable when the user hits the join page. the first would be more accurate showing where you actually lose the user.

PHP Code:

stat_track($PHP_SELF);

function stat_track($page) {
 global $pages;
 chk_session();
 $pages .= " " . $page;
 echo $pages;
}

function chk_session() {
 global $PHPSESSID;
 session_start();
 $PHPSESSID = session_id();
 if(!(session_is_registered("pages"))) { session_register("pages"); $pages = ""; }
}

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Alky
calling the function at the top on each page, will produce an array in the session var $pages. you could either keep track of the user page by page in a database using the users session id, or you could just load the data in that variable when the user hits the join page. the first would be more accurate showing where you actually lose the user.

PHP Code:

stat_track($PHP_SELF); function stat_track($page) { global $pages; chk_session(); $pages .= " " . $page; echo $pages; } function chk_session() { global $PHPSESSID; session_start(); $PHPSESSID = session_id(); if(!(session_is_registered("pages"))) { session_register("pages"); $pages = ""; } }

So there ya have it people!

Now you don't have to buy the $25 script at all.. cause Alky just posted his 10-20 minute version of the project.

[goBigtime notes to have low regard for Alkys posts in the future]

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 05:19 AM

it will produce a result like:
/test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php /test.php

thats just the page i created it in "test.php" and i refreshed a few times. but if you were to go from page to page it would track the different pages. then after thats stored, display it in a nice admin.. and thats all. thanks.

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime

So there ya have it people!

Now you don't have to buy the $25 script at all.. cause Alky just posted his 10-20 minute version of the project.

[goBigtime notes to have low regard for Alkys posts in the future]

lol

**Alky** · 08-15-2003, 05:24 AM

funny, i didn't notice you saying mine would not work?

**goBigtime** · 08-15-2003, 05:27 AM

Aww cmon Alky, why don't you just admit that maybe you just meant that it was an easy application to code (which I'm not arguing about), and that you could code and document it (for public release) in a day or two - not 10-20 minutes.

And that maybe your initial post saying simply:

pretty easy script to make... 10-20 minute job.

Might have been a little uncalled for.

Then we can all hold hands, sing kumbaya & be friends again

New Paysite Script - Check it out!

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