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Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 10:50 AM

yelling 'fire' in a theatre would be considered a form terrorism, at least by definition. Disturbing the peace or whatever else they could nail you with.

There is a difference between terrorizing a people, and exorcising your rights to protest and free speech.

He did nothing illegal did he?

If so, what was it?

Intent to bomb? riot? guerilla armies? hahah

If so, where did he put the bomb? Where is this armed rebellion you speak of, since THAt is what you said he should go to jail for 'foment armed rebellion...'

Fact is, he didnt yell fire in a theatre to scare anyone. He attended marches and pickets, as it is in his AMERICAN rights to do so. Holding a sign a crime in the US alrwady?

Should we JAIL all protestors? thats basically what you are saying.

iroc409 08-11-2003 10:54 AM

this is quite disturbing. perhaps a situation where the justice system being left to one person isn't in the best interest in the community. although from what i saw, it didn't appear this guy should be punished at all, but on the bright side the article did mention that the sentence the judge gave out was against the recommendation of the fbi and prosecution. that's about the only bit of sunshine i read in it.

although it is kindof troubling that the judge could be like that...

12clicks 08-11-2003 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
yelling 'fire' in a theatre would be considered a form terrorism, at least by definition. Disturbing the peace or whatever else they could nail you with.

There is a difference between terrorizing a people, and exorcising your rights to protest and free speech.

He did nothing illegal did he?

If so, what was it?

Intent to bomb? riot? guerilla armies? hahah

If so, where did he put the bomb? Where is this armed rebellion you speak of, since THAt is what you said he should go to jail for 'foment armed rebellion...'

Fact is, he didnt yell fire in a theatre to scare anyone. He attended marches and pickets, as it is in his AMERICAN rights to do so. Holding a sign a crime in the US alrwady?

Should we JAIL all protestors? thats basically what you are saying.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with treason and rebellion, its definition under the law and its penalties.
this clown got off lite.
Also, as explained above, there's more to the story than GFY knows.
I find it odd that a certain number of you always side with the criminal.

mule 08-11-2003 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


really?so then you can yell,"fire" in a crowded movie theater?

exactly.
there's a limit to everything. you chatter on and on about overthrowing the government, you get noticed. start posting how to make bombs on the same page, get noticed more. show up at violent demonstrations about overthrowing the government, get noticed even more.
At some point you land in jail.
Assclowns who want to protect those actions behind free speech are the biggest danger to free speech.

Every time someone pulls your finger, you assume that you're wise.

Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 11:00 AM

Not siding with anyone, simply trying to maintain a conversation about an honestly interesting subject.

But if I had to side, it surely wouldnt be with the christians or the republicans in office.

Oooh do i go to jail now?

cosis 08-11-2003 11:01 AM

I always find it funny when the authorities arrest a hacker or webmaster they need 25 FBI agents with semi-automatic weapons........ what's he going to do throw his keyboard at you?

hybrid 08-11-2003 11:03 AM

What? The land of the free?

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

hybrid 08-11-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Every time someone pulls your finger, you assume that you're wise.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

biporn 08-11-2003 11:12 AM

Fuck this douche bag... Running a bullshit site like that.
Hes lucky hes in the States... If he was in Lebanon he probably would have got shot on that first raid.

Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biporn
Fuck this douche bag... Running a bullshit site like that.
Hes lucky hes in the States... If he was in Lebanon he probably would have got shot on that first raid.

Sure the same could be said about 75+% of the sites people run from the states and are on this board.

MrPopup 08-11-2003 11:13 AM

50 logs in 12clicks eye

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

Every time someone pulls your finger, you assume that you're wise.

translation: please notice me.

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Not siding with anyone, simply trying to maintain a conversation about an honestly interesting subject.

But if I had to side, it surely wouldnt be with the christians or the republicans in office.

Oooh do i go to jail now?

yes, when deciding who to side with, I too choose criminals over christians.
hahahahaha.
with a thought process like that,........... well nevermind.

mule 08-11-2003 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


translation: please notice me.

:1orglaugh

Lane 08-11-2003 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I find it odd that a certain number of you always side with the criminal.

Don't you think people also find it odd when you defend and approve of everything Bush and his current governmet does? You're the master of taking sides and proving others wrong. It's a good skill but I mean I rather be incompetent in arguing than having to defend a political regime no matter how many fuck-up's they have and just be a blind fanatic.


heh, no offense 12clicks but you could be a little more objective sometimes, thats all :)

steffie 08-11-2003 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
It is hard to comment on this without knowing all the facts. However if all he did was a website and exercised his right to free speech this is a very chilling incident.

This could and may be a harbinger of things to come; very unpleasant things. I hope the Democrats have a strong candidate next year.

So, exactly what happend to Free Speach?

Oh, wait it went down the toilet with

Bush

(Waiting for a knock on the door now, since I just knocked the governmetn)

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane


Don't you think people also find it odd when you defend and approve of everything Bush and his current governmet does? You're the master of taking sides and proving others wrong. It's a good skill but I mean I rather be incompetent in arguing than having to defend a political regime no matter how many fuck-up's they have and just be a blind fanatic.


heh, no offense 12clicks but you could be a little more objective sometimes, thats all :)

When I'm right, I don't feel the need to be objective so as not to piss off those that are wrong.

To the uneductated, I may seem a blind fanatic but if you'd like to pic a topic, I'll show you the error of your ways.
:winkwink:

Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


yes, when deciding who to side with, I too choose criminals over christians.
hahahahaha.
with a thought process like that,........... well nevermind.

You make these things up as you go.

I didnt say I side with criminals. I said I was interested in this topic.

I just said I wouldnt side with christians or the republicans in office. I didnt specifiy who or if anyone, I would side with.

But as we have seen from your stance on it, THAT in ITSELF makes me a criminal. Or worst a TRAITOR to THE US.

:1orglaugh

Marcus 08-11-2003 11:28 AM

A few months back in Montreal they said that this time next year expect to see a handful of webmasters put in jail. It's scary that it's starting to happen.

MrPopup 08-11-2003 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

To the uneductated, I may seem a blind fanatic but if you'd like to pic a topic, I'll show you the error of your ways.
:winkwink:

It is theoretically impossible for you to lose any more credibility.

Each new sentence that comes from you is funnier than the last.

I cant seem to identify whether you are real or actually just an automated GFY bot.

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


You make these things up as you go.

yeah, I made this up:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
But as we have seen from your stance on it, THAT in ITSELF makes me a criminal. Or worst a TRAITOR to THE US.


Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I didnt say I side with criminals. I said I was interested in this topic.

I just said I wouldnt side with christians or the republicans in office. I didnt specifiy who or if anyone, I would side with.

wow, now you might as well trot out your hero's line. "that depends on what your definition of *is* is"

Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 11:31 AM

You're not making any sense.

I have no clue what the 'is' is' reference 'is'

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


It is theoretically impossible for you to lose any more credibility.

Each new sentence that comes from you is funnier than the last.

I cant seem to identify whether you are real or actually just an automated GFY bot.

that hurts coming from someone with your stature.:1orglaugh

pick a topic or blow away, half wit.:1orglaugh

Greg B 08-11-2003 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
I always find it funny when the authorities arrest a hacker or webmaster they need 25 FBI agents with semi-automatic weapons........ what's he going to do throw his keyboard at you?

ROFLMAO!!! That's my point exactly!!! Cosis if you ever take up a career on writing for comedy please lemme know. :)

I can see it now:

Suspect dove across the room and brandished a loaded mousepad pointed directly at officers. In his other hand a pc gamecontroller with trademark vibration mode. A formidable quarry as officers levelled their Hechler and Koch firearms in hopes of outgunning this menace...

http://www.gregboone.com/siteicon.gif

hybrid 08-11-2003 11:38 AM

Damn, 12, you sure do know how it all works.

Who knew that being successful in the porn biz actually translated into being an expert in every conceivable light.

Thanks for setting such an example, I better get to work...

12clicks 08-11-2003 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
Damn, 12, you sure do know how it all works.

Who knew that being successful in the porn biz actually translated into being an expert in every conceivable light.

Thanks for setting such an example, I better get to work...

listen, I don't hold your limitations against you.
how would you know whats possible from your shoes?:1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 08-11-2003 11:52 AM

They use that many officers because THAt is the type of threat WEBMASTERS pose. It also makes the public eye percive them as a greater threat.

After they eliminate all the other sites, guess who will be next.

Gotta start somewhere, where is a better place to start than 'shutting down' sites that the majority won't miss.

Process of elimination.

MrPopup 08-11-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

pick a topic or blow away, half wit.:1orglaugh

12clicks should decide what people post on GFY


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