'Bring us home': GIs flood US with war-weary emails - GoFuckYourself.com

directfiesta · 08-10-2003, 10:40 AM

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...015684,00.html

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Through emails and chatrooms a picture is emerging of day-to-day gripes, coupled with ferocious criticism of the way the war has been handled. They paint a vivid picture of US army life that is a world away from the sanitised official version.

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In a message posted on a website last week, one soldier was brutally frank. 'Somewhere down the line, we became an occupation force in [Iraqi] eyes. We don't feel like heroes any more,' said Private Isaac Kindblade of the 671st Engineer Company.

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The President says, "Bring 'em on." The generals say we don't need more troops. Well, they're not over here,' he wrote.

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One of the main outlets for the soldiers' complaints has been a website run by outspoken former soldier David Hackworth, who was the army's youngest colonel in the Vietnam war and one of its most decorated warriors

and finally the reward for risking their lives ( Bush hypocritical ?:

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Another source of anger is government plans to reverse recent increases in 'imminent danger' pay and a family separation allowance. These moves have provoked several furious editorials in the Army Times, the normally conservative military newspaper. The paper said the planned cuts made 'the Bush administration seem mean-spirited and hypocritical'.

" Bring them on"

SR · 08-10-2003, 10:43 AM

cherrylula · 08-10-2003, 11:08 AM

My Uncle is getting shipped over there for an entire year.

And he only had a month left of service in the US Army. My Aunt is going crazy. It fucking sucks.

directfiesta · 08-10-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
My Uncle is getting shipped over there for an entire year.

And he only had a month left of service in the US Army. My Aunt is going crazy. It fucking sucks.

No other choice than to whish him the best in these circumstances.

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:05 PM

I do not favor any type of pay cuts to Active duty personell (let alone hazardous duty pay)...if you are in agreement please electronically sign the petition listed at the bottom of the following page

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/7685/view

twistyneck · 08-10-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I do not favor any type of pay cuts to Active duty personell (let alone hazardous duty pay)...if you are in agreement please electronically sign the petition listed at the bottom of the following page

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/7685/view

I am in favor of pay cuts. In these tough times, we all need to do our part.

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

I am in favor of pay cuts. In these tough times, we all need to do our part.

The people in uniform are doing more than their share...be it peacetime service or otherwise...and deserve better pay and benefits...not less.

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:24 PM

In addition the million man cut in forces in the past few years...has increased the burden on the people in uniform.

wsjb78 · 08-10-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by theking

The people in uniform are doing more than their share...be it peacetime service or otherwise...and deserve better pay and benefits...not less.

They occupy a foreign country... don't forget there is no evidence of WMDs and the UN did not sanction this war...

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78

They occupy a foreign country... don't forget there is no evidence of WMDs and the UN did not sanction this war...

wtf does that have to do with enlisted men who have no choice as to where they are deployed?

wsjb78 · 08-10-2003, 01:29 PM

Were they forced to enlist themselves? As far as I know it is each one's own choice the join the armed forced and by doing so you agree that you may be sent to dangerous places

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78

They occupy a foreign country... don't forget there is no evidence of WMDs and the UN did not sanction this war...

UN Resoution 1441...voted for 15-0

13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;

That is the last and prevailing UN Resolution...prior to military force being used.

The Coilition of more than 30 countries...led by the US...has imposed the "serious consequences".

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78
Were they forced to enlist themselves? As far as I know it is each one's own choice the join the armed forced and by doing so you agree that you may be sent to dangerous places

No dipshit...but your response about them occupying a foreign country and that no wmds have been found or that the UN hasn't sanctioned the us invasion of iraq has nothing to do with their payrate.

What alot of people don't realize is that alot of our enlisted men live on welfare.

Their children survive on foodstamps, their families live in subsidized housing and I'm not talking about the kind you get on bases.

We live in a society where the people who do less for society make more, and those who do more make less and soldiers are definitely in that group.

wsjb78 · 08-10-2003, 01:34 PM

Then tell me where Iraq did violate UN Resolution 1441?

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:37 PM

I have never served in the military, and god dammit I wouldn't ever want to.

I just don't think I could subject myself to the kind of lifestyles these people live.

But one thing I do is respect is those who have chosen that lifestyle..and nothing pisses me off more than people who can't seem to realize that it's our soldiers...and I"m not just talking about the US soldiers...world fucking wide from whatever country you live in...it is only because of their tackling a job that others do not want to do that we get to sleep comfortably at night.

Knowing that at a moments notice they will drop whatever they have in their lives be it friends or family to defend your country.

Fucking pay them for it...they deserve it.

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78
Then tell me where Iraq did violate UN Resolution 1441?

Why even debate it?

It's not like you're going to believe him or he's going to believe you...get over it already.

Marcus · 08-10-2003, 01:39 PM

All they have to do is say "I'm gay" and they'll be on the next plane home

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78

They occupy a foreign country... don't forget there is no evidence of WMDs and the UN did not sanction this war...

Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) were found far previously to the 911 Terrorist attacks and far previous to the Liberation of Iraq - PROPAGANDA!

Installing democracy is the best long term solution.
The US is going to be there for awhile - get used to it.

You can not teach hate for DECADES - then expect it to disappear over night.

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus
All they have to do is say "I'm gay" and they'll be on the next plane home

LOL

But there oughta be a test...make them suck some big drill seargent's cock first.

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by wsjb78
Then tell me where Iraq did violate UN Resolution 1441?

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[Adopted as Resolution 1441 at Security Council meeting 4644, 8 November 2002]

The Security Council,

Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,

Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

Recognizing the threat Iraq?s non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,

Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,

Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,

All of the above resolutions but specifically the last paragraph listed above.

But feel free to sign the petition or not.

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I do not favor any type of pay cuts to Active duty personell (let alone hazardous duty pay)...if you are in agreement please electronically sign the petition listed at the bottom of the following page

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/7685/view

To recruit the best - you need money.
You need the best Doctors.
The best programmers.
The best technical people.
The best trades people.
The best labourers.

The best takes money.

Marcus · 08-10-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

LOL

But there oughta be a test...make them suck some big drill seargent's cock first.

it's 120 degrees where they are, i can't imagine walking around in that heat and carrying around heavy shit.
I'd eat out a bag lady's unwashed ass to get out of there.

eroswebmaster · 08-10-2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

it's 120 degrees where they are, i can't imagine walking around in that heat and carrying around heavy shit.
I'd eat out a bag lady's unwashed ass to get out of there.

Buff · 08-10-2003, 01:55 PM

To whom it may concern:

Blah blah fucking blah.

Check this out, sport. It's a volunteer Army (and Marine Corpse, and GayV, and Air Farce). All these mofos like to sign up in peace time and milk the taxpayers for an assload of college money, but the second they're called on to do their fucking jobs, they start whining like little bitches about the unbearable conditions.

I'm all broken up for them.

Flooding the homefront with whining emails. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

WE DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE EMAIL WHEN I SERVED FOR 7 MONTHS AND 26 DAYS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR! I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE MY FIRST PHONE CALL UNTIL JUST AFTER MY 6TH MONTH OF DEPLOYMENT!

What a bunch of fucking pussies. And newsflash: don't join the fucking military if you have a family or want to have a family (during your term of service) -- it's fucking irresponsible.

These people need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. That's what we did 12 years or so ago.

My service record:

1989-1991 -- B co 2/5 Cav, 1st Cav Div (11M Infantry),

1991-1997 -- A co 2/20th Special Forces Group (18 C/18 E Special Forces Engineer/Demolitions Sgt / Special Forces Communications Sgt)

Any questions, numbnuts?

theking · 08-10-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

it's 120 degrees where they are, i can't imagine walking around in that heat and carrying around heavy shit.
I'd eat out a bag lady's unwashed ass to get out of there.

120 plus...apparently two soldiers just recently died from the heat.

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
To whom it may concern:

Blah blah fucking blah.

Check this out, sport. It's a volunteer Army (and Marine Corpse, and GayV, and Air Farce). All these mofos like to sign up in peace time and milk the taxpayers for an assload of college money, but the second they're called on to do their fucking jobs, they start whining like little bitches about the unbearable conditions.

I'm all broken up for them.

Flooding the homefront with whining emails. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

WE DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE EMAIL WHEN I SERVED FOR 7 MONTHS AND 26 DAYS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR! I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE MY FIRST PHONE CALL UNTIL JUST AFTER MY 6TH MONTH OF DEPLOYMENT!

What a bunch of fucking pussies. And newsflash: don't join the fucking military if you have a family or want to have a family (during your term of service) -- it's fucking irresponsible.

These people need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. That's what we did 12 years or so ago.

My service record:

1989-1991 -- B co 2/5 Cav, 1st Cav Div (11M Infantry),

1991-1997 -- A co 2/20th Special Forces Group (18 C/18 E Special Forces Engineer/Demolitions Sgt / Special Forces Communications Sgt)

Any questions, numbnuts?

Yes - I have a question.

Do you think the US should have continued and done what it has now - but in the first gulf war?

theking · 08-10-2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
To whom it may concern:

Blah blah fucking blah.

Check this out, sport. It's a volunteer Army (and Marine Corpse, and GayV, and Air Farce). All these mofos like to sign up in peace time and milk the taxpayers for an assload of college money, but the second they're called on to do their fucking jobs, they start whining like little bitches about the unbearable conditions.

I'm all broken up for them.

Flooding the homefront with whining emails. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

WE DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE EMAIL WHEN I SERVED FOR 7 MONTHS AND 26 DAYS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR! I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE MY FIRST PHONE CALL UNTIL JUST AFTER MY 6TH MONTH OF DEPLOYMENT!

What a bunch of fucking pussies. And newsflash: don't join the fucking military if you have a family or want to have a family (during your term of service) -- it's fucking irresponsible.

These people need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. That's what we did 12 years or so ago.

My service record:

1989-1991 -- B co 2/5 Cav, 1st Cav Div (11M Infantry),

1991-1997 -- A co 2/20th Special Forces Group (18 C/18 E Special Forces Engineer/Demolitions Sgt / Special Forces Communications Sgt)

Any questions, numbnuts?

82nd Ariborne...12 years...Infantry...E-7 Platoon Sgt...Desert Shield...Desert Storm...injured during the 2nd day of Desert storm...100% disabled. The boys earn their pay...even during peacetime.

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by theking

82nd Ariborne...12 years...Infantry...E-7 Platoon Sgt...Desert Shield...Desert Storm...injured during the 2nd day of Desert storm...100% disabled. The boys earn their pay...even during peacetime.

not enough ...
freedom is priceless

rooster · 08-10-2003, 02:04 PM

"injured" I thought that word was only used by green privates. Isn't wounded the right word.

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:05 PM

We should have finished the job the first time, obviously. But in this country, combat decisions are made by politicians with weak stomachs and no spines, so we don't fight wars to win anymore -- we fight them to distract the public and divert media attention away from domestic and personal failings of politicians.

There is no good reason in the world that we haven't tossed out the leaders of Saudi Arabia, by force, and confiscated their oil -- those people are funneling the oil money into terrorism, and we don't do shit about it.

We're letting some porn addict in North Korea starve people to death: so much so that the North Koreans suffer from malnutrition to such an extent that the whole race is barely 5 fucking feet tall now! What the fuck is that?

The military is a tool, but like any tool, it should be used for the jobs it is designed for. Those jobs including destroying armies, interdicting evil leaders, holding conquered land, etc.

theking · 08-10-2003, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
"injured" I thought that word was only used by green privates. Isn't wounded the right word.

Wounded (WIA) would be correct if I had been wounded.

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:07 PM

King, sorry to hear that. I was shot in 1994 in Central America.

I wasn't in the military for the pay or the college money.

I was in the military so that I could become the best warrior on the planet. And I did.

Why · 08-10-2003, 02:09 PM

i like how the politicians are willing to raise taxs to pay these people, but wont take any kind of pay-cuts... i think politicians ought to work for free, its not like they arent already getting enough on the side from lobbists.

Thrawn$ · 08-10-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Buff

There is no good reason in the world that we haven't tossed out the leaders of Saudi Arabia, by force, and confiscated their oil -- those people are funneling the oil money into terrorism, and we don't do shit about it.

the family who lead Saudi arabia is backed by Satan himself,
there is nothing you can do.

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Why
i like how the politicians are willing to raise taxs to pay these people, but wont take any kind of pay-cuts... i think politicians ought to work for free, its not like they arent already getting enough on the side from lobbists.

Politicians ought to be executed the second their terms expire. That way we would get only the people who honestly want the best for this country in office -- the same kind of people who volunteer to be in the military (for the most part). Willing to sacrifice their lives to make the place better.

theking · 08-10-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
King, sorry to hear that. I was shot in 1994 in Central America.

I wasn't in the military for the pay or the college money.

I was in the military so that I could become the best warrior on the planet. And I did.

It was my intended career...but was cut short in '91 (Medically Discharged in '92)...but I do not have a problem with those joining to take advantage of the college fund...as well as additional benefits.

By the way AIRBORNE!!!

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by theking

It was my intended career...but was cut short in '91...but I do not have a problem with those joining to take advantage of the college fund...as well as additional benefits.

By the way AIRBORNE!!!

We're violating the first rule of Airborne by talking to all these Legs. My black hat would be ashamed of me. ;)

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:17 PM

Your emotions definitely show through in this post.

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Originally posted by Buff
We should have finished the job the first time, obviously. But in this country, combat decisions are made by politicians with weak stomachs and no spines, so we don't fight wars to win anymore -- we fight them to distract the public and divert media attention away from domestic and personal failings of politicians.

Win what? What is the one sentence goal of the current war?

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There is no good reason in the world that we haven't tossed out the leaders of Saudi Arabia, by force, and confiscated their oil -- those people are funneling the oil money into terrorism, and we don't do shit about it.

The US just did. It liberated a country in the middle of a whole bunch of "dictatorships". This is the information age. Freedom is infectious - this will spread.

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We're letting some porn addict in North Korea starve people to death: so much so that the North Koreans suffer from malnutrition to such an extent that the whole race is barely 5 fucking feet tall now! What the fuck is that?

The USA can not handle all of the current world problems. Do one - and - there will always be people complaining - you should do more.

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The military is a tool, but like any tool, it should be used for the jobs it is designed for. Those jobs including destroying armies, interdicting evil leaders, holding conquered land, etc.

WRONG!
Ensuring and defending peace and liberty - ON A LONG TERM BASIS!

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:20 PM

No, it's the citizens' job to ensure liberty. It's the military's job to impose national policy by force.

titmowse · 08-10-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Buff

Politicians ought to be executed the second their terms expire.

dreamer

afrocreep · 08-10-2003, 02:22 PM

i'm not going to read all this BS but if they don't like it perhaps they should have chosen another career

theking · 08-10-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
No, it's the citizens' job to ensure liberty. It's the military's job to impose national policy by force.

Exactly.

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
No, it's the citizens' job to ensure liberty. It's the military's job to impose national policy by force.

hmmmmm

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:22 PM

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The USA can not handle all of the current world problems. Do one - and - there will always be people complaining - you should do more.

We can handle all of the major threats. We can destroy the Saudi, Egyptian, Syrian, Libyian, Sudanese, North Korean, and Iranian regimes.

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
No, it's the citizens' job to ensure liberty. It's the military's job to impose national policy by force.

[ ... will contemplate that for awhile ...]
I appreciate your posts.

Buff · 08-10-2003, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation

[ ... will contemplate that for awhile ...]
I appreciate your posts.

Thanks. I like making them. Anything I can do to educate the plebeians, you know. ;)

sexeducation · 08-10-2003, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Buff

Thanks. I like making them. Anything I can do to educate the plebeians, you know. ;)

; )

directfiesta · 08-10-2003, 02:38 PM

I am not a supporter of Bush or either his war(s) ...

I also most of the time disagree with "theKing" and " Eroswebmaster". On this thread, I have to agree with them. When you see something like this, you start to wonder how this administration can face the population:

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'Soldiers get literally hundreds of flea or mosquito bites and they can't [use] cream or benedril to keep the damn things from itching. The army issued mosquito netting, but didn't give anyone any poles for their cots, so the stuff is basically useless... Meanwhile, soldiers are living in the dirt, with no mail, no phone, no contact with home and no break from the daily monotony at all.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...015685,00.html

The soldiers have NO saying and no choices. That the war is justified or not should not be part of this equation. They do what they are told to do, and in very harsch conditions. They are separated from their families, some will never witness the first steps of their child or hear their first words.

This is a very big price to pay, and they should be compensated with more than words and medals.

Meanwhile, Bush is vacationing and rising millions for his re-election, distributing " favors" to his friends ...

This s ite will be interesting to follow:

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org

digi · 08-10-2003, 02:42 PM

cant blame them for wanting to go home. Even though your president waves his flag and says everything is fine it seems to get worse by the day for your troops.

theking · 08-10-2003, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
I am not a supporter of Bush or either his war(s) ...

I also most of the time disagree with "theKing" and " Eroswebmaster". On this thread, I have to agree with them. When you see something like this, you start to wonder how this administration can face the population:

The soldiers have NO saying and no choices. That the war is justified or not should not be part of this equation. They do what they are told to do, and in very harsch conditions. They are separated from their families, some will never witness the first steps of their child or hear their first words.

This is a very big price to pay, and they should be compensated with more than words and medals.

Meanwhile, Bush is vacationing and rising millions for his re-election, distributing " favors" to his friends ...

This s ite will be interesting to follow:

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org

In addition I want to once again state...and stress...that life in the military is not pleasant (particularly for those in Combat Arms units) and is relatively dangerous (there is a significant loss of life every year from training exercises)...even during peace time...and many are away from their home base more than they are at their home base...which means away from their families. Since the million man reduction in forces the burden...even during peace time...has become greater.

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theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	I do not favor any type of pay cuts to Active duty personell (let alone hazardous duty pay)...if you are in agreement please electronically sign the petition listed at the bottom of the following page http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/7685/view __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	In addition the million man cut in forces in the past few years...has increased the burden on the people in uniform. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	I have never served in the military, and god dammit I wouldn't ever want to. I just don't think I could subject myself to the kind of lifestyles these people live. But one thing I do is respect is those who have chosen that lifestyle..and nothing pisses me off more than people who can't seem to realize that it's our soldiers...and I"m not just talking about the US soldiers...world fucking wide from whatever country you live in...it is only because of their tackling a job that others do not want to do that we get to sleep comfortably at night. Knowing that at a moments notice they will drop whatever they have in their lives be it friends or family to defend your country. Fucking pay them for it...they deserve it. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

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Buff GFY Assassin Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,993	To whom it may concern: Blah blah fucking blah. Check this out, sport. It's a volunteer Army (and Marine Corpse, and GayV, and Air Farce). All these mofos like to sign up in peace time and milk the taxpayers for an assload of college money, but the second they're called on to do their fucking jobs, they start whining like little bitches about the unbearable conditions. I'm all broken up for them. Flooding the homefront with whining emails. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? WE DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE EMAIL WHEN I SERVED FOR 7 MONTHS AND 26 DAYS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR! I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE MY FIRST PHONE CALL UNTIL JUST AFTER MY 6TH MONTH OF DEPLOYMENT! What a bunch of fucking pussies. And newsflash: don't join the fucking military if you have a family or want to have a family (during your term of service) -- it's fucking irresponsible. These people need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. That's what we did 12 years or so ago. My service record: 1989-1991 -- B co 2/5 Cav, 1st Cav Div (11M Infantry), 1991-1997 -- A co 2/20th Special Forces Group (18 C/18 E Special Forces Engineer/Demolitions Sgt / Special Forces Communications Sgt) Any questions, numbnuts? Last edited by Buff; 08-10-2003 at 01:57 PM..

08-10-2003, 11:08 AM	#3
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	My Uncle is getting shipped over there for an entire year. And he only had a month left of service in the US Army. My Aunt is going crazy. It fucking sucks.

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wsjb78 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyberspace Posts: 594	Were they forced to enlist themselves? As far as I know it is each one's own choice the join the armed forced and by doing so you agree that you may be sent to dangerous places

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wsjb78 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyberspace Posts: 594	Then tell me where Iraq did violate UN Resolution 1441?

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Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	All they have to do is say "I'm gay" and they'll be on the next plane home

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	"injured" I thought that word was only used by green privates. Isn't wounded the right word.

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Buff GFY Assassin Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,993	We should have finished the job the first time, obviously. But in this country, combat decisions are made by politicians with weak stomachs and no spines, so we don't fight wars to win anymore -- we fight them to distract the public and divert media attention away from domestic and personal failings of politicians. There is no good reason in the world that we haven't tossed out the leaders of Saudi Arabia, by force, and confiscated their oil -- those people are funneling the oil money into terrorism, and we don't do shit about it. We're letting some porn addict in North Korea starve people to death: so much so that the North Koreans suffer from malnutrition to such an extent that the whole race is barely 5 fucking feet tall now! What the fuck is that? The military is a tool, but like any tool, it should be used for the jobs it is designed for. Those jobs including destroying armies, interdicting evil leaders, holding conquered land, etc.

08-10-2003, 02:07 PM	#32
Buff GFY Assassin Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,993	King, sorry to hear that. I was shot in 1994 in Central America. I wasn't in the military for the pay or the college money. I was in the military so that I could become the best warrior on the planet. And I did.

08-10-2003, 02:09 PM	#33
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	i like how the politicians are willing to raise taxs to pay these people, but wont take any kind of pay-cuts... i think politicians ought to work for free, its not like they arent already getting enough on the side from lobbists.

08-10-2003, 02:20 PM	#39
Buff GFY Assassin Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,993	No, it's the citizens' job to ensure liberty. It's the military's job to impose national policy by force.

08-10-2003, 02:22 PM	#41
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	i'm not going to read all this BS but if they don't like it perhaps they should have chosen another career

08-10-2003, 02:42 PM	#49
digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	cant blame them for wanting to go home. Even though your president waves his flag and says everything is fine it seems to get worse by the day for your troops.