PROBILLING and VEROTEL - GoFuckYourself.com

christianrod30 · 08-07-2003, 07:38 PM

HI. i am a webmaster located in Brazil. After the Globill bankruptcy, we foreigner webmasters do not have many choices in terms of new merchants. I am using Verotel services now. I would like to use Probilling also, but nobody answer our e-mail.

What is the future for foreigner webmaster? Anybody could help us indicating good merchants that accept Visa without paying the exorbitant USD750?

kind regards

playa · 08-07-2003, 07:50 PM

all your bases belong to us

alan-l · 08-07-2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by christianrod30
HI. i am a webmaster located in Brazil. After the Globill bankruptcy, we foreigner webmasters do not have many choices in terms of new merchants. I am using Verotel services now. I would like to use Probilling also, but nobody answer our e-mail.

What is the future for foreigner webmaster? Anybody could help us indicating good merchants that accept Visa without paying the exorbitant USD750?

kind regards

How is Verotel working for you? I'm interested

PbG · 08-07-2003, 08:18 PM

I always get a response from PROBilling within 24 hours. Try again and make sure your email is working and you don't have any blocks on it . . . Try calling them too.

christianrod30 · 08-07-2003, 08:20 PM

I've started with verotel one week ago. Until now, the system is working fine.

down_with_the usa · 08-16-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by christianrod30
I've started with verotel one week ago. Until now, the system is working fine.

yea, the system works fine! but to become your money....?

Read this:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=160637

wargames · 08-16-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by playa
all your bases belong to us

startcraft rules

MarcoTC · 08-16-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by playa
all your bases belong to us

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

the bad english was the point.

spooky181 · 08-16-2003, 02:27 PM

Iv'e been using them for 5 or 6 months and are very happy with them.

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Webby · 08-16-2003, 03:19 PM

christianrod30:

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What is the future for foreigner webmaster? Anybody could help us indicating good merchants that accept Visa without paying the exorbitant USD750?

Go to the continent where there are the most processors and trade within that VISA banking region. Namely, get a European corp and use *any* processors within the EU - includes, CCBill, IBill and others.

This is not about $750, but committing to the laws of the US, giving information on your business to both VISA and the US govt who will then act as they see fit and screw you. This track record is not new.

A Euro corp can cost as little as $500 and enables the use of a wider range of transaction processors in Europe than exist in the US. (More on the way!) Currently, the demand for information from processors outside the US does not involve a sperm count.

Webby · 08-16-2003, 03:21 PM

christianrod30:

Forgot to say.. At the moment there are no VISA fees outside the US

Tuga · 08-16-2003, 04:13 PM

Verotel was great, until they fucked me because one guy did 17 chargebacks

The Click · 08-16-2003, 05:08 PM

Probilling paid every week ontime.

ServerGenius · 08-16-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
christianrod30:

Go to the continent where there are the most processors and trade within that VISA banking region. Namely, get a European corp and use *any* processors within the EU - includes, CCBill, IBill and others.

This is not about $750, but committing to the laws of the US, giving information on your business to both VISA and the US govt who will then act as they see fit and screw you. This track record is not new.

A Euro corp can cost as little as $500 and enables the use of a wider range of transaction processors in Europe than exist in the US. (More on the way!) Currently, the demand for information from processors outside the US does not involve a sperm count.

And if you're not a fan of paying taxes get your company setup on Gibraltar.....it's cheap and will save you a shitload of money.

DynaMite

Webby · 08-16-2003, 07:00 PM

DynaSpain:

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And if you're not a fan of paying taxes get your company setup on Gibraltar.....it's cheap and will save you a shitload of money.

DynaMite

You kinda took the words out of my mouth!

christianrod30 - You are based in Brasil. If may be, depending on your personal circumstances, there may not be a need for an actual offshore corp (ie Gibraltar). It is possible to have a UK company (cost around $500) to achieve the aim

But Dynamite is right.. in the long term it is probably worth the extra $$'s to get an offshore corp!

Alvaro · 08-16-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
DynaSpain:

You kinda took the words out of my mouth!

christianrod30 - You are based in Brasil. If may be, depending on your personal circumstances, there may not be a need for an actual offshore corp (ie Gibraltar). It is possible to have a UK company (cost around $500) to achieve the aim

But Dynamite is right.. in the long term it is probably worth the extra $$'s to get an offshore corp!

can you recommend an attorney to help me out with my incorporation in Gilbratar?

Webby · 08-16-2003, 07:25 PM

Alvaro:

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can you recommend an attorney to help me out with my incorporation in Gilbratar?

Hi Alvaro! All you need is a corp formation agent - they are usually lawyers in Gibraltar.

Have a look at this thread - though it uses "Canadian webmasters", the same information applies.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=156804

There are also a few formation agents mentioned who will be pleased to answer any questions on legalities - either by email or phone. They are all OK and will respect confidentiality.

Dax · 08-16-2003, 08:46 PM

I think 2000charge.com accepts brazilian webmasters.

christianrod30 · 08-17-2003, 05:43 PM

Thank you all.

But in fact what Visa really wants is to charge everybody in order to gain more money in a profitable industry as adult industry. It is also applicable to search engines. Yahoo charges USD 600 for adult content and only USD 99 for normal content. Why? For the simple reason that adult industry makes money and they want their slice of "pizza".

As an oligopoly they can do anything since they control almost 60% of all credicard transactions worldwide.

If you Know a minimum of risk managment, you can control chargebacks. Visa is not worry about this. They just want their slice.

Regards

mryellow · 08-17-2003, 08:46 PM

oh yeah that's it.... pffft

Visa is so strapped for cash that they need your $750....

The $750 has nothing to do with making Visa more money.

-Ben

ToBad · 08-17-2003, 10:42 PM

Stay away from Verotel. They will go down soon.

p00p · 08-17-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by ToBad
Stay away from Verotel. They will go down soon.

Yup.

08-07-2003, 07:38 PM	#1
christianrod30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 286	PROBILLING and VEROTEL HI. i am a webmaster located in Brazil. After the Globill bankruptcy, we foreigner webmasters do not have many choices in terms of new merchants. I am using Verotel services now. I would like to use Probilling also, but nobody answer our e-mail. What is the future for foreigner webmaster? Anybody could help us indicating good merchants that accept Visa without paying the exorbitant USD750? kind regards __________________ Christian Rod ICQ 103-946-210 msn: [email protected]

08-07-2003, 08:18 PM	#4
PbG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,025	I always get a response from PROBilling within 24 hours. Try again and make sure your email is working and you don't have any blocks on it . . . Try calling them too. __________________ Uncensored-Hosting \| Photography by Gus

08-07-2003, 08:20 PM	#5
christianrod30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 286	I've started with verotel one week ago. Until now, the system is working fine. __________________ Christian Rod ICQ 103-946-210 msn: [email protected]

08-16-2003, 04:13 PM	#12
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Verotel was great, until they fucked me because one guy did 17 chargebacks __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

08-16-2003, 05:08 PM	#13
The Click Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,685	Probilling paid every week ontime. __________________ ICQ: 31-30-30

08-07-2003, 07:50 PM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	all your bases belong to us

08-16-2003, 02:27 PM	#9
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08-16-2003, 03:21 PM	#11
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	christianrod30: Forgot to say.. At the moment there are no VISA fees outside the US

08-16-2003, 08:46 PM	#18
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	I think 2000charge.com accepts brazilian webmasters.

08-17-2003, 05:43 PM	#19
christianrod30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 286	Thank you all. But in fact what Visa really wants is to charge everybody in order to gain more money in a profitable industry as adult industry. It is also applicable to search engines. Yahoo charges USD 600 for adult content and only USD 99 for normal content. Why? For the simple reason that adult industry makes money and they want their slice of "pizza". As an oligopoly they can do anything since they control almost 60% of all credicard transactions worldwide. If you Know a minimum of risk managment, you can control chargebacks. Visa is not worry about this. They just want their slice. Regards __________________ Christian Rod ICQ 103-946-210 msn: [email protected]

08-17-2003, 08:46 PM	#20
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	oh yeah that's it.... pffft Visa is so strapped for cash that they need your $750.... The $750 has nothing to do with making Visa more money. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

08-17-2003, 10:42 PM	#21
ToBad Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 319	Stay away from Verotel. They will go down soon.