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Mr.Fiction 08-07-2003 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by tony404


The extreme stuff makes easy wins and it has been going alittle too far it is time to reel it back in alittle .

Bullshit. It's not "easy wins". Max Hardcore did not lose his recent case.

You may not agree with what Max is doing, but assuming no one is actually being hurt, he's an American and he has the right to free speech.

tony286 08-07-2003 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Bullshit. It's not "easy wins". Max Hardcore did not lose his recent case.

You may not agree with what Max is doing, but assuming no one is actually being hurt, he's an American and he has the right to free speech.


If I am correct Max didnt win his case, he is being retired isnt he. Also Max was proscuted in CA lets see in PA or WI , he would be dealing with anal sex from a whole new position lol. Abusing woman on video is not free speech.

ibs 08-07-2003 03:48 PM

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Mr.Fiction 08-07-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by tony404

Abusing woman on video is not free speech.

They are pretending to ambush women and that had better be free speech or every mainstream movie that has a scene like that would be illegal.

The Dirty Harry movies with Clint Eastwood have violent rape and murder in them. Should they be illegal too?

What about pretending to murder someone in a mainstream movie, should that be illegal?

ibs 08-07-2003 03:51 PM

yeah what about that jodie foster movie where she fucked those guys and then cried rape later

huh what about that

what about mickey rourke he rapes some chick in every movie he is in almost every movie any way

tony286 08-07-2003 03:54 PM

I am sorry I know two models that went to LA to shoot porn and basically got intimated into a extreme type of scene. Being told you will never work again, you wasted our time. They are new and dont know any better so they did it and it wasnt pleasant at all . One never did porn again because it was so bad. In a main stream movie that doesnt happen. In fact in the nightline interview Lizzy said the models dont know whats going to happen and they get pretty shook up but I take them shopping afterwards to make it up to them. That never happens on a Dirty Harry set.

ibs 08-07-2003 04:06 PM

and marilyn monroe is dead now isn't she?

I am sorry to hear about the two girls having a hard time but that is not the way it always goes with every pornographer

I am sure there is plenty of cock sucking and assorted sexual acts done by all top female stars on the way to the top

which is not possible to be a true statement also

tony286 08-07-2003 06:37 PM

I have to post a retraction it wasnt nightline it was frontline their american porn show (which if you havent watched is very good
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/ ) and this what she said:


NARRATOR: Today they're shooting the box cover for Lizzie's new feature.

LIZZIE BORDEN: A girl being kidnapped, being forced to have sex against her will.

NARRATOR: Lizzie's newest film breaks many of even porn's taboos.

LIZZIE BORDEN: Being butchered at the end, and spit on. She's being degraded.

NARRATOR: The actress, Veronica Caine, apparently doesn't know exactly what she's in for.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: Just go with the flow, all right? Let happen what's going to happen.

LIZZIE BORDEN: She's, like, one of my best friends.

INTERVIEWER: And you're about to put her through-

LIZZIE BORDEN: Hell.

INTERVIEWER: Why?

LIZZIE BORDEN: She knows me. She's my best friend. I know she can take it. And at the end, I give her a hug. I take her out to dinner. We go shopping.

directfiesta 08-07-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
That never happens on a Dirty Harry set.
Nope, just on the casting couch...

TheSaint 08-07-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by TampaJim
These companies take all the risk, and ask for a cut of the profit in return. Evil Angel, Elegant Angel, Max Hardcore, and many others go this route. They share their profits with a smart mailorder company and keep out of Mississippi/Utah/Pittsburgh courtrooms.
Who are these companies? (he asks, with an eye on a few dozen dvds waiting to be shipped...)

SkyWalker 08-07-2003 09:51 PM

Whatever your locals can call obscene is the rub

Mishi 08-08-2003 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


They are pretending to ambush women and that had better be free speech or every mainstream movie that has a scene like that would be illegal.

The Dirty Harry movies with Clint Eastwood have violent rape and murder in them. Should they be illegal too?

What about pretending to murder someone in a mainstream movie, should that be illegal?

This comparison comes up time and time again, and I have yet to see someone make a reasonable case as to why there is a difference - and there is a BIG difference. It's about context. Mainstream movies almost never portray rape as a desirable thing.

I could babble about this but I'm too tired.


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