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AmeliaG 08-10-2003 12:04 PM

Okay, I think I'm going to do a % on net, but I'm trying to figure out what to deduct to determine net.

I'm thinking I will definitely deduct processing fees and affiliate payouts and any chargebacks. That would make it pretty easy to calculate.

Should I factor in costs for equipment or hosting or clothes or hair or just consider them bonuses the way I do now for regular shoots?

Oh and I think this is obvious, but my partner said that, in order to get accurate advice on this, I should mention that we don't need to do sites for individual girls to find people to shoot. They would shoot with us anyway. I'm just thinking it would be a nice bonus for our top girls.

So, now that it is the weekend, advise away! I'm still very interested in what everyone here thinks about this.

GeXus 08-10-2003 12:10 PM

It all depends.. Tawnee stone gets 50% since she converts well.. 50% is pretty much standard as long as she converts well.. If she doesnt do so well, maby cut her back to 40% or so.. Alot of it is just what the girl is willing to do it for, if she will do it for 20%, then do it for 20%.. Then increase her as she sells better..

As far as clothing,hosting and equipment.. no, you should pay for that, not the girl.

x2dio 08-10-2003 12:21 PM

Cool thread, as i've had opportunities to do some shooting , but did not know what to offer the girls.

I guess % is a good offer if you don't have a lot of money to invest upfront.

lexr 08-10-2003 12:57 PM

Having had experience with multi-model sites (never did a site based around just one girl) I always wondered..

What do you do if the model you spent so much money on building a site around just dies suddenly? Or is in a horrible accident and winds up in a coma? Doesn't that kind of screw up the plan and all your money flies out the window?

El Mega 08-10-2003 01:04 PM

good question AG

the experienced folks here have the right answer!

pay her nothing...
I mean per shoot!

It'll keep the girls motivated and keep you form looseing your shirt.

If that doesn't work...give her a swift kick in the ass, and tell her to get back to work BIAAAATCH!



{bitch betta have my money}

KCat 08-10-2003 01:26 PM

If you're going to go partnership, make sure that you own the images. So many content girls end up finding god or getting a boyfriend who decides he should be running the show & they suddenly want the site down & all their pics back.

If you put in a ton of work & 3 months down the road she decides she wants the site down & doesn't want to do it anymore, you're the one who's screwed.

Good luck!

scooby doo as scooby does 08-10-2003 02:08 PM

I do three of these single girl sites in my niche of choice. I pay them 50% of net. In this arrangement, they provide ALL the content (they upload themselves. Galleries, thumbs etc. all done by software) and some marketing (chats, forums). I do inhouse site based marketing (my own top lists etc), design & tech stuff. I have twiddled with the amounts from time to time, but basically I base my percentages around SC (although I think I'm behind them now). After two years of this my conclusion is, don't bother. Buy the content, do yer own site. Why get married when you can have it all.

Jayson 08-10-2003 02:43 PM

Not that I would recommend partnering with a model but I went through the excercise once to see what would be worthwhile and came up with this:


Site Design/Maintenance/Updates/Hosting - 50%
Content - 50%

If you are shooting the content and she is the model then split the amount for the content 50/50 to cover all the shoot expenses and your time as a photographer.

And for any traffic to the site other than type-ins and what may come from search engines for the main site I would run just as if you had been an affiliate and take 50%.

So assuming the girl just tuned up for a shoot she would get around 12% of gross.

That would be the most I would offer a model but you will still be cheaper and more secure if you pay an hourly rate for the content - or if they have a back catalog buy the rights and if you really like them offer them a small bonus % depending on how the site does.

AmeliaG 08-10-2003 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
If you're going to go partnership, make sure that you own the images. So many content girls end up finding god or getting a boyfriend who decides he should be running the show & they suddenly want the site down & all their pics back.

If you put in a ton of work & 3 months down the road she decides she wants the site down & doesn't want to do it anymore, you're the one who's screwed.

Good luck!

Word. I had a friend who I comped membership in GothicSluts.com and he went through looking for who he would like to date. Then, once he started going out with the girl, he didn't want her to do shoots any more. I guess he was worried that I would comp someone charting better than he was. Sigh. If I could only say this was something that had only happened once . . .

AmeliaG 08-10-2003 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does
I do three of these single girl sites in my niche of choice. I pay them 50% of net. In this arrangement, they provide ALL the content (they upload themselves. Galleries, thumbs etc. all done by software) and some marketing (chats, forums). I do inhouse site based marketing (my own top lists etc), design & tech stuff. I have twiddled with the amounts from time to time, but basically I base my percentages around SC (although I think I'm behind them now). After two years of this my conclusion is, don't bother. Buy the content, do yer own site. Why get married when you can have it all.

SC?

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