I'm interested in your dutch traffic, if we can make it work we will buy as much as possible.

just added our paysite in your admin..can you approve it so i can paypal you and get it going...account is creep276

Choker, I don't agree with you paying zero for traffic that doesn't have 'en' in the browser language. I get credit card signups on my sites from Japan, Italy and even India. Yes, the value of non-en traffic is generally lower to most paysites, but it is certainly not zero!

It's a double bonus - you save on bandwidth costs (now serving a 302 redirect instead of a gallery/headers/TGP), plus you make money from the paysites that non-en surfers are sent to. We still get $0.

I don't think it's practical to assume that every TGP webmaster will be able to prefilter their traffic.

I also think you're a very smart guy who understates what he really makes from this. :)

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Good move Choker. It will give your traffic greater value, that for sure.

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FUCK dude...time to remove all your links from my sites...

For all those using choker's program:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/l-redirector/

It's not pratical for every TGP to filter this traffic, but the tgps HAVE to do it, the paysites are not going to. Already many many tgps are not even allowing non english browsers to ever hit thier site. This is the future my friend and I am not going to be left behind. I do not want to fuck with geo targeting at all, I have no choice, neither do you or any other free site out there. It's time for everyone to tighten their belts one more notch and squeeze every cent they can out of their traffic. There are many FREE and low server load ways to filter this traffic.

As far as the "double dipping" I have from day one stated in bold "DO NOT send non-english traffic" to GS2. But since day 1 I have still payed everyone for it even though I asked them not to send it. I am simply enforcing that rule now. You Rowan of all people should understand that getting the non-english traffic out of my system will benifit EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY the gallery spot buyers, TGP traffic buyers, and the TGPs getting traffic back for the GS2 system.

50 Major Changes Bitches :glugglug

Bye

there ya go, thanks man

Rowan, I agree with you that foreign traffic value is not zero. If you disagree with choker, just either geo filter your traffic or dont sell it at all. Not a big deal.

Geo filtering for free sites is the future, especially as new foreign markets are opened up using alternative billing methods. I realize many guys will say goodbye to me because of this, but I have no choice. I would rather the TGP's geo sort the traffic themsleves and make use of it, rather than sending it to me. If anyone has a better solution I am all ears, but making scripts and a entirely new traffic system model just to send the traffic back to where the tgps want it sent to, will be a waste as in 6 months any free site not doing thier own geo sorting will be left in the dust anyway.

I disagree with this. I don't see a future in which most European traffic is sent directly to paysites whatever they click on.
That just means a lot of creditcard owners will find other sites to bookmark.

Personally, I make a nice amount of money from surfers with other browser languages than English. I just make sure they get to see the right type of advertising.

I think it would probably be a better idea to set up a system where the filtered traffic is sold separately in a normal way, instead of blocking all those surfers. If you do this the right way, you could probably sell traffic with other browser languages for even higher prices than english traffic. But hey, it's your program, so it's your choice what to do with it.

How can an affiliate make a profit when your page says "No affiliates. This program is for the actual owners of the paysites themselves. "?

Have you changed your mind and allowed affiliates to buy this traffic now?

As of now I am only redirecting proxy traffic. In sellmetraffic.com that is less than 5% of the traffic so that is not going to be felt. When I start redirecting foreign traffic, yes I will sell it to foreign launguage TGPs,free sites etc and bump the payout rate to the sites sending the traffic to SMT.

On GS2 I am paying out almost double what I said I would. TGPs with 10% productivty are getting back 20%. And I feed the hell out of the sytem also, average productivty is actually 7%. That is all I am committed to pay guys, yet on average I am paying out over 14% right now, so there will be no bump in payouts in GS2, shit I am paying out $6 per k now and reselling it for $6 per k. There is no profit in it after I feed all the extra traffic.

Because I do not know how much I can resell foreign traffic for, I have to be carefull in what I bump the payouts to.

I send traffic to my own affiliate accounts. If affiliates bought this traffic also, then the surfers would go to the same paysite twice, each time under a different affiliate referal.

Does anyone want a 1% shave version of ip-sorter for 'free'?

hmmm, good idea. Put it together and I will push it. :thumbsup