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dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andi_germany
I have lived in the states for 4 years. As a German I was raised with the awareness of the holocaust so I don't consider myself a racist at all. I hung out with Black's as well as Asians and Whites. It does not make a tad of difference for me as I judge each person by there actions and attitudes rather than skin color. An asshole is always an asshole wether white, black or what ever skin tone they have.

Unfortunately when you come to a society unbiased you notice how people treat each other a lot better.

Here some example. I played basketball at the neighborhood court mostly with African Americans and after they got to know me and we played together for a couple of month I could come to them and say: 'What's up niggas' without a problem at all. They know I respected them and basically this is where the problem is. RESPECT. I am very sure that your wife has all the respect for you so she can call you Nigga whenever she wants and it does not hurt you at all. However I am sure your mother would not approve the Nigga calling with your friends also because she probably recalls the 50's and the 60's where they were huge problems between whites and blacks. Therefore she simply dislikes the term as she thinks it shows the lack of Respect that a wife should have for her husband and vice versa.

So I think the questions cannot be answered straight with yes its ok or no its not ok. It is all about the situation and the place where to use it. So if you want to make sure you might be better off not using Nigga at all.

Just my :2 cents:

Thanks Andi for your :2 cents: . I really appreciate it!

Fletch XXX 08-03-2003 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli




I represent the 713..the type of shit yall niggas aint never gon' see:glugglug

these whores make texas look bad.

i went to school in texas.

art insititute of Houston.

these niggas aint playas, they 'played' they be a difference.

:glugglug

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli




I represent the 713..the type of shit yall niggas aint never gon' see:glugglug

Dude! You're in Houston!! Big whoop! In that case, "I represent the 972/817/214/469/954" (All Dallas Area Codes)!

Fletch XXX 08-03-2003 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx


Dude! You're in Houston!! Big whoop! In that case, "I represent the 972/817/214/469/954" (All Dallas Area Codes)!

you represent the la Quinta Inn and thats about it.

Pornwolf 08-03-2003 01:32 AM

Hey Dallas guy... are you sure you're black?

boobmaster 08-03-2003 01:33 AM

GODDAMMIT, I hate these fucking racist threads! We have more than enough shit being thrown at us because we are adult webmasters! We don't need any of this shit!

At least one good thing came out of this thread though ......

Bump! Bump! Bump! Another fucking racist bites the dust!

http://www.boobstand.com/ignore-gfy/ignore-ds2.jpg

Fletch XXX 08-03-2003 01:34 AM

whats worst a racist or a child fucking christian?

I cant see the difference.

boobmaster prove your sainthood.

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Hey Dallas guy... are you sure you're black?
LOL! I'm sure!!

Gutterboy 08-03-2003 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
GODDAMMIT, I hate these fucking racist threads! We have more than enough shit being thrown at us because we are adult webmasters! We don't need any of this shit!

At least one good thing came out of this thread though ......

Bump! Bump! Bump! Another fucking racist bites the dust!

http://www.boobstand.com/ignore-gfy/ignore-ds2.jpg

:1orglaugh

TDF 08-03-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
GODDAMMIT, I hate these fucking racist threads! We have more than enough shit being thrown at us because we are adult webmasters! We don't need any of this shit!

At least one good thing came out of this thread though ......

Bump! Bump! Bump! Another fucking racist bites the dust!

http://www.boobstand.com/ignore-gfy/ignore-ds2.jpg


why not add me to the list also? i hate ******s and honkeys...i pretty much hate anyone who doesnt share my views...

Pornwolf 08-03-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
whats worst a racist or a child fucking christian?

I cant see the difference.

That could be a much longer and more serious conversation if we had the proper characters online right now.

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
GODDAMMIT, I hate these fucking racist threads! We have more than enough shit being thrown at us because we are adult webmasters! We don't need any of this shit!

At least one good thing came out of this thread though ......

Bump! Bump! Bump! Another fucking racist bites the dust!

http://www.boobstand.com/ignore-gfy/ignore-ds2.jpg

Dude, I asked a question! That's it! Nothing more....nothing less! Chilout!!

Doctor Dre 08-03-2003 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andi_germany
I have lived in the states for 4 years. As a German I was raised with the awareness of the holocaust so I don't consider myself a racist at all. I hung out with Black's as well as Asians and Whites. It does not make a tad of difference for me as I judge each person by there actions and attitudes rather than skin color. An asshole is always an asshole wether white, black or what ever skin tone they have.

Unfortunately when you come to a society unbiased you notice how people treat each other a lot better.

Here some example. I played basketball at the neighborhood court mostly with African Americans and after they got to know me and we played together for a couple of month I could come to them and say: 'What's up niggas' without a problem at all. They know I respected them and basically this is where the problem is. RESPECT. I am very sure that your wife has all the respect for you so she can call you Nigga whenever she wants and it does not hurt you at all. However I am sure your mother would not approve the Nigga calling with your friends also because she probably recalls the 50's and the 60's where they were huge problems between whites and blacks. Therefore she simply dislikes the term as she thinks it shows the lack of Respect that a wife should have for her husband and vice versa.

So I think the questions cannot be answered straight with yes its ok or no its not ok. It is all about the situation and the place where to use it. So if you want to make sure you might be better off not using Nigga at all.

Just my :2 cents:

You got it right nigga :P

venturi 08-03-2003 01:39 AM

BAH! Sorry dougeetx, but anyone darker than my cracker ass is just another spear chucker to me. *ducking* and very much kidding!

LOL, I've often wondered the same thing as you asked in your thread starting post. I understand there are many underlying issues but I really feel that many of those issues are caused by either mis-information or dis-information that has been propagated over time. Without launching into a lengthy debate on the facts of history, et. al. I'll just say that much of the information being spewed by many is pure bullshit.
Bottom line: Words are only as powerful as they that hear/read them and allow them said power.

While it is a disparaging term derived from Negro, it's origins are very questionable and most likely not from anything that happened in the United States of America. If memory serves, and many times it doesn't, it came from the misinterpretation of what African slave traders were saying to the European traders that landed on their shores buying people for use in the slave trade.
The USA gets beat up on a daily basis for being the originators of slave trade. Guess what, we've only been a country for um... 383 years (and that's only if you count the landing at Plymouth Rock in 1620). Slavery was well in force long before this time.
The trade is well documented dating back to the ancient Egyptians that made it a practice of enslaving their very own people. The African people have a Huge history of slave trade on one level or another for at least one thousand years and it continues today. The Asian people have a penchant for selling their women into slavery, as do the russians and anyone else that has participated in "indentured servitude". The USA merely got slammed the hardest because our open media format and free speach rules of government allowed it to be talked about on an open forum.

I know I kind of drifted from topic here by talking about the actual issues of the usage of a single word, but at the same time I have to ask folks this: Do Italian born or Irish born or Asian born people make it a complete and utter grandstand display of disdain when someone says the terms "wopp", "mic" or "slope"? These people are also major victims of slavery (or have you not noticed the trains spanning this continent and the rest of Europe?) They may take it harshly, but they also know that that is merely part of life. People are idiots, so to speak. People of African heritage seem to feel singled out here, and in some ways yes, their hardships were very ugly - I give them that bit of credit.

But, people of African heritage also tend to slander their own credibility by calling each other, in jest or not, terms like "nigga" (which IMHO is nothing more than a cop-out way of calling a friend a ******). "Nigga" or "Niggah", to my knowledge, has no base in any language other than English slang; it wouldn't seem to have come from any African language, according to the OED or any other comprehensive dictionary on languages.

dougeetx, while I think these terms are what keeps our races verbally segregated, you can call me honkey and cracker any time you want. It's a commeraderie thing, and in this case a show of friendship. :D

Peace out, you <insert racial slang for fun here>'s.

Gutterboy 08-03-2003 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx


Dude, I asked a question! That's it! Nothing more....nothing less! Chilout!!

Does that mean you don't want to be my butt bitch? :(

boobmaster 08-03-2003 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
whats worst a racist or a child fucking christian?

I cant see the difference.

boobmaster prove your sainthood.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What a putz you are! Too fucking funny! Just because a catholic priest might have taken you over the alter when you were a lad doesn't give you the right to be a prick.

See a therapist. You need one!

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Does that mean you don't want to be my butt bitch? :(

Only if I can slap it up, flip it, and rub it down! Oh yeah!!

boobmaster 08-03-2003 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx


Dude, I asked a question! That's it! Nothing more....nothing less! Chilout!!

My problem isn't with you!

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by venturi
BAH! Sorry dougeetx, but anyone darker than my cracker ass is just another spear chucker to me. *ducking* and very much kidding!

LOL, I've often wondered the same thing as you asked in your thread starting post. I understand there are many underlying issues but I really feel that many of those issues are caused by either mis-information or dis-information that has been propagated over time. Without launching into a lengthy debate on the facts of history, et. al. I'll just say that much of the information being spewed by many is pure bullshit.
Bottom line: Words are only as powerful as they that hear/read them and allow them said power.

While it is a disparaging term derived from Negro, it's origins are very questionable and most likely not from anything that happened in the United States of America. If memory serves, and many times it doesn't, it came from the misinterpretation of what African slave traders were saying to the European traders that landed on their shores buying people for use in the slave trade.
The USA gets beat up on a daily basis for being the originators of slave trade. Guess what, we've only been a country for um... 383 years (and that's only if you count the landing at Plymouth Rock in 1620). Slavery was well in force long before this time.
The trade is well documented dating back to the ancient Egyptians that made it a practice of enslaving their very own people. The African people have a Huge history of slave trade on one level or another for at least one thousand years and it continues today. The Asian people have a penchant for selling their women into slavery, as do the russians and anyone else that has participated in "indentured servitude". The USA merely got slammed the hardest because our open media format and free speach rules of government allowed it to be talked about on an open forum.

I know I kind of drifted from topic here by talking about the actual issues of the usage of a single word, but at the same time I have to ask folks this: Do Italian born or Irish born or Asian born people make it a complete and utter grandstand display of disdain when someone says the terms "wopp", "mic" or "slope"? These people are also major victims of slavery (or have you not noticed the trains spanning this continent and the rest of Europe?) They may take it harshly, but they also know that that is merely part of life. People are idiots, so to speak. People of African heritage seem to feel singled out here, and in some ways yes, their hardships were very ugly - I give them that bit of credit.

But, people of African heritage also tend to slander their own credibility by calling each other, in jest or not, terms like "nigga" (which IMHO is nothing more than a cop-out way of calling a friend a ******). "Nigga" or "Niggah", to my knowledge, has no base in any language other than English slang; it wouldn't seem to have come from any African language, according to the OED or any other comprehensive dictionary on languages.

dougeetx, while I think these terms are what keeps our races verbally segregated, you can call me honkey and cracker any time you want. It's a commeraderie thing, and in this case a show of friendship. :D

Peace out, you <insert racial slang for fun here>'s.

Thanks for your information and knowledge! I really appreciate it!

Gutterboy 08-03-2003 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx


Only if I can slap it up, flip it, and rub it down! Oh yeah!!

http://66.230.223.187/ass.jpg

Work it nigga!

Fletch XXX 08-03-2003 01:45 AM

keep dancing.

i like the way you move.

dougeetx 08-03-2003 01:49 AM

Ok!! Ok!! Now, let's just look at this beautiful Latina woman and break off the harsh feelings!!

http://www.virginiasummers.com/Tammy11.jpg
http://www.virginiasummers.com/hitchhike2.jpg
http://www.virginiasummers.com/TWinters181.jpg
http://www.virginiasummers.com/TWinters106.jpg

And on that note, I will say goodnight! It's almost 4am here and I need some beauty sleep!

boobmaster 08-03-2003 01:57 AM

Gutterboy

Don't fuck with this idiot! This is the kind of shit he posts!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...4338#2 114338

boobmaster 08-03-2003 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
keep dancing.

i like the way you move.

You are an idiot! A funny one though! :1orglaugh

boobmaster 08-03-2003 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli



why not add me to the list also? i hate ******s and honkeys...i pretty much hate anyone who doesnt share my views...

But you're actually funny and have some interesting posts!

Fletch XXX 08-03-2003 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster


You are an idiot! A funny one though! :1orglaugh

this coming from the oxymoro0n of the day children.

an adult christian webmaster.

his god gave his life so he could think about cumming on girls faces.

people like this redneck are the reason christianity is a joke.

he doesnt even know how ignorant he is, thats how blessed he is!

hashahaha

TDF 08-03-2003 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster


But you're actually funny and have some interesting posts!


liar...black people never have nothing good to say,except pass the blunt

boobmaster 08-03-2003 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


this coming from the oxymoro0n of the day children.

an adult christian webmaster.

his god gave his life so he could think about cumming on girls faces.

people like this redneck are the reason christianity is a joke.

he doesnt even know how ignorant he is, thats how blessed he is!

hashahaha

Man, you get STUPIDER ever time you post. I asked you to point out were I ever said I was a christian. You never replied bescuse you can't find it. Because it was never said. I'm starting to wonder if you can read at all!

Pornwolf 08-03-2003 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli



liar...black people never have nothing good to say,except pass the blunt

Some of 'em don't even do that. Niggas can't count. Puff puff pass. How many puffs is in that? Two. But when a nigga counts it's more like 4 then pass. I can't stand niggas. I only like black people.

boobmaster 08-03-2003 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli



liar...black people never have nothing good to say,except pass the blunt

Yes but you WANT me to ignore you -- so I won't, just to piss you off! :)

Webby 08-03-2003 02:27 AM

andi:

Quote:

I have lived in the states for 4 years. As a German I was raised with the awareness of the holocaust so I don't consider myself a racist at all. I hung out with Black's as well as Asians and Whites. It does not make a tad of difference for me as I judge each person by there actions and attitudes rather than skin color. An asshole is always an asshole wether white, black or what ever skin tone they have.

Unfortunately when you come to a society unbiased you notice how people treat each other a lot better.

Here some example. I played basketball at the neighborhood court mostly with African Americans and after they got to know me and we played together for a couple of month I could come to them and say: 'What's up niggas' without a problem at all. They know I respected them and basically this is where the problem is. RESPECT. I am very sure that your wife has all the respect for you so she can call you Nigga whenever she wants and it does not hurt you at all. However I am sure your mother would not approve the Nigga calling with your friends also because she probably recalls the 50's and the 60's where they were huge problems between whites and blacks. Therefore she simply dislikes the term as she thinks it shows the lack of Respect that a wife should have for her husband and vice versa.

So I think the questions cannot be answered straight with yes its ok or no its not ok. It is all about the situation and the place where to use it. So if you want to make sure you might be better off not using Nigga at all.
:thumbsup

Another damned whitey here who agrees with ya! At least you replied with some sense - more than the load of white trash so far.... excluding Fletch XXX of course!! :)

TDF 08-03-2003 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster


Yes but you WANT me to ignore you -- so I won't, just to piss you off! :)


doesnt make me a fuckin difference anyways...******

boobmaster 08-03-2003 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli



doesnt make me a fuckin difference anyways...******

See what I mean? ..... funny posts! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

media 08-03-2003 02:42 AM

LOL! THis thread is funny shit.. check out my sig you haters..

Media

KRL 08-03-2003 05:39 AM

Its all about the tone of how you say it.

There's ****** and there's ****** and they have 2 distinctly different meanings.

Funny shit, I had a black dude, with a case of road rage, who I had cut in front of on Hwy 1 recently, zoom past me and he called me a fucking ****** and I'm white so go figure. In today's world I don't think it is referrencing the black race anymore. Its gone beyond that.

pine 08-03-2003 07:49 AM

lol.

There are some serious GFY n00bs in this thread.

crockett 08-03-2003 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
As most of you know, I am a brotha...aka black, African American, "colored", or what the fuckever and I'm married to a white lady (beautiful)! Well, her family loves me but mine isn't to crazy about her. Anyways, when we're at home joking around, she'll say, "Nigga please!" or "Shut the fuck up nigga!" Now, she mistakingly said, "Nigga please!" in front of my mother. Whew! I thought it was going to be WW3. My mother took it in stride and talked to me about it later. Now, is it racist to say that??? I personally don't think it's racist b/c we as black people say it to each other all the time...... "Wazzup Nigga!"......"Show me some love Nigga!"......"Nigga please!"....."I'm going to whip that Niggas ass if he doesn't pay me my motherfucking $25!", etc! So, why is it so wrong when someone white says "nigga"???? I know one of the arguments will be "we're saying nigga and they're saying ******". So, for those of you who might come back with that argument, if "they" said "nigga", would it make it alright??? Hmmmm...just food for thought!

here's the deal... many people may not agree... but a large portion of the back people use the term "******" among themselfs in this day in time... I would say that 10 years ago.. the word "******" would have been a racist term for sure... but now the meaning is deluted..

Now being white, I'm not going to go up to a black guy and call him a "******" now that would be racist.. but if it's a back guy I hang with then it would be ok to say "hey what's up my nigga"

But you can't take a word and allow one group of people to use it, and it's ok.. but if another group of people use the same word..then say it racist...
What you can say is racist is how the word is used...

refer to Tokyo Breakfast

dougeetx 08-07-2003 09:20 AM

*bump*

69pornlinks 08-07-2003 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
If you do it, you cant get mad when someone else does it. Applies to just about everything in life.
YOU as a person not a whole group,just becasue some Blacks says 'nigga' doesn't make it cool.....i for one rarely use it...and when i do it's foe anyone

******-is someone who's ignorant so that applies to anyone...

what's more funny is that when someone say's '******' ppl assume they're racist cause they think they are reffering to someone who's Black

to each it's own..say what you want,raise yo hand to me,i'll put you on yo ass and stomp the shit ouuta you....:2 cents:

Fletch XXX 08-07-2003 09:31 AM

'****** ****** ****** ****** ****** ****** please - ya treat it like a fucking disease.'

:winkwink:

Bulldog-Johnnie 08-07-2003 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by deliriumtremens
If you say ****** you are showing you believe in the existance of racial differences in the human species and that makes you racist.
The word Nigga has become a part of everyday vernacular. I think what's important is to look at the motiviation or context in which the word is used. To say that you don't recognize differences in people of a different race is unrealistic. That being said, I think treating someone differently (not giving them the same chance of being a friend, proving their worth to you as a fellow human, etc) because of their ethinicity is wrong. If you are intolerant to people because their a different color, or have a different background as you then you are the only one who is being sold short, by yourself.

Zorgman 08-07-2003 09:51 AM

I say it's a word.
Society says it's an insult.

wimpy 08-07-2003 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by deliriumtremens
If you say ****** you are showing you believe in the existance of racial differences in the human species and that makes you racist.
There are racial differences. For example, black men have a strong tendancy for darker skin. It does not make me a racist for acknowleging this difference. Black men have a higher suseptability to sickle cell anemia, too. Do you want the medical community to ignore that fact in the spirit of political correctness?

I'd be a racist if I said "Those darkies sure are stupid." The difference is that I'm then judging their worth based on their skin tone.

doggiestyle_ec 08-07-2003 10:34 AM

******

dougeetx 08-07-2003 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doggiestyle_ec
******
Honky!

Pale Peach!

Cracker!

Casper!

White Devil!

We have many more that we can use. So, if that was your best shot, it was weak!! Now, to my new compadres out there that are "pigmently handicapped", much love to you still!

:321GFY :321GFY

Joe Average 08-07-2003 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
im a ******, you a ******, we some niggas, wouldnt you like to be a nigga too.

:glugglug


http://66.37.21.220/crownlager.jpg

You convinced me... I'm in!

:glugglug

kris242 08-07-2003 11:02 PM

nig·ger ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ngr)
n. Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for a Black person: ?You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a ******? (James Baldwin).
Used as a disparaging term for a member of any dark-skinned people.
Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: ?Gun owners are the new ******s... of society? (John Aquilino).

I own many guns, i must be a ****** too! WHOOO!

katman 08-07-2003 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
As most of you know, I am a brotha...aka black, African American, "colored", or what the fuckever and I'm married to a white lady (beautiful)! Well, her family loves me but mine isn't to crazy about her. Anyways, when we're at home joking around, she'll say, "Nigga please!" or "Shut the fuck up nigga!" Now, she mistakingly said, "Nigga please!" in front of my mother. Whew! I thought it was going to be WW3. My mother took it in stride and talked to me about it later. Now, is it racist to say that??? I personally don't think it's racist b/c we as black people say it to each other all the time...... "Wazzup Nigga!"......"Show me some love Nigga!"......"Nigga please!"....."I'm going to whip that Niggas ass if he doesn't pay me my motherfucking $25!", etc! So, why is it so wrong when someone white says "nigga"???? I know one of the arguments will be "we're saying nigga and they're saying ******". So, for those of you who might come back with that argument, if "they" said "nigga", would it make it alright??? Hmmmm...just food for thought!
I have an opinion on this if you would like to hear it.

I think both races should put the term away for good and try to concentrate on getting rid of stereotypes.

It bother's me that blacks can call each other ****** all day long but a white man saying it gets beat up. I would understand that, if they didn't call white people "cracker", and many other names that are not racially blind.

They (Not all) talk all day about racism, (and mostly the only ones who do) but are very prejudice against whites.

I tried to date a black gal once down in New Orleans and got beat up by her family. Prejudice goes both ways.

katman 08-07-2003 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulldog-Johnnie


The word Nigga has become a part of everyday vernacular. I think what's important is to look at the motiviation or context in which the word is used. To say that you don't recognize differences in people of a different race is unrealistic. That being said, I think treating someone differently (not giving them the same chance of being a friend, proving their worth to you as a fellow human, etc) because of their ethinicity is wrong. If you are intolerant to people because their a different color, or have a different background as you then you are the only one who is being sold short, by yourself.

You are younger than 30. Try going up to any black man over 30 and call him a ******, and see how far in the ground you just put yourself.

Sure, in your tiny circle of young pups it may be ok. Just be careful when you get out of high school. (J/K) You may find out it's not so acceptable still yet.

I do agree with you that that is how it should be for the most part. I would be happier if everyone quit thinking of skin color as a reasonable judge of character though.


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