NationalNet offered 10mbps for $485... Where's the competition!? - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxdesign-net · 08-01-2003, 09:07 AM

So anyone else can offer a similar deal but with an uncapped 10mbps connection?

Let's hear it!

NationalNet thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ght=uncapp ed

modF · 08-01-2003, 09:10 AM

That may be a tough offer to beat

Matt_WildCash · 08-01-2003, 09:15 AM

You can pay through the ass double that at ISPRIME for 10 megabit capped like $950 or some crazy shit. Damn they need to lower there prices they are out of step with the market.

Juicy D. Links · 08-01-2003, 09:16 AM

how many gigs is that roughly?

Carrie · 08-01-2003, 09:22 AM

You can get it (but double the hard drive space) at Rackshack.net for less. $399/month. And a $1 setup fee today to top it off.
If you find the previous client had the line capped, just have tech support uncap it.

AEBN Michael · 08-01-2003, 09:26 AM

1 mbps = 320 gigs on average

Houdini · 08-01-2003, 09:32 AM

Jesus, I'm two weeks too late. I just setup with a host for 3mbs for $450. Fuck!

El Kabong · 08-01-2003, 09:36 AM

Sure, RackShack offers that deal (as they have for quite some time now), but before you run over there and order I'd do a search on this forum for other user experiences over there. RackShack is unmanaged, they're on Cogent (which may be fine for some people), and from the times I have had to deal with their tech support it has been AWFUL. I can't verify that Nat Net is NOT putting these on Cogent (someone else care to clarify?) but they are a well respected company that has been a big player for quite a long time now and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone complain about them. I'm not trying to swing anyone in any one direction, just warning to do your research before you jump.

pheal · 08-01-2003, 09:40 AM

Nat Net should put some hosting prices on their sites.

Strife · 08-01-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by pheal
Nat Net should put some hosting prices on their sites.

yeah i know..what's up with that?!?

Steve · 08-01-2003, 09:46 AM

$485 for the bandwidth...does this include the server? If so, what's the specs on the box?

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
You can pay through the ass double that at ISPRIME for 10 megabit capped like $950 or some crazy shit. Damn they need to lower there prices they are out of step with the market.

Isprime sucks, we had about 10% of our biz there for a while and it was like pulling teeth tech wise.

At National Net the support is beyond fast. And you know they are there 24/7 watching your shit.

Strife · 08-01-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
$485 for the bandwidth...does this include the server? If so, what's the specs on the box?

10 Mbps capped connection

1.8 Ghz dedicated server

40 gig IDE Hard drive

Unlimited domains and email

PLUS NationalNet?s unparalleled Full Server Management

Mr. Marks · 08-01-2003, 10:34 AM

Wow, that is a fucking great deal. Can XFR meet or Beat that? I like XFR's multihomed multi upstream provider and quality service but can they provide this for less than $5000 for a year contract?

Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
So anyone else can offer a similar deal but with an uncapped 10mbps connection?

Let's hear it!

NationalNet thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ght=uncapp ed

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.

I'm at the dollars.com booth at the show or you can call me at 404-451-4238

Wilbo · 08-01-2003, 10:39 AM

www.vibehosting.com has a sweet 10mbps deal I've been looking at. 3000 gigs a month on a 100mbps connection for $399 with a kick ass dual-drive server.

Theo · 08-01-2003, 10:52 AM

jesus

Theo · 08-01-2003, 10:53 AM

that's less than 15cents/gb

magnatique · 08-01-2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AEBN Michael
1 mbps = 320 gigs on average

I thought the 320 was theoretical...?

Theo · 08-01-2003, 10:59 AM

can i use them for spamming?

StupidNewbie · 08-01-2003, 11:02 AM

oh my, thats a good deal.

ack · 08-01-2003, 11:03 AM

whats the overusage fee?

minifly · 08-01-2003, 11:05 AM

Is capped cheaper for some reason?,

I rather not cap my server as it makes it real slow when it
gets up there.

Jakke PNG · 08-01-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ack
whats the overusage fee?

capped server with overusage?

loverboy · 08-01-2003, 11:07 AM

ExtremeRack.com

$299/mon 10Mbits Unlimited! Now Beat that!

Captain · 08-01-2003, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw

Isprime sucks, we had about 10% of our biz there for a while and it was like pulling teeth tech wise.

At National Net the support is beyond fast. And you know they are there 24/7 watching your shit.

Brad, you are still crying about us not letting you spam?

Sorry but ISPrime does not allow spam on our network. We have a responsibilty to look out for our clients.

Our tech supports sucks?? haha you are making yourself look like an idiot, ISPrime has outstanding support and any of our customers can vouch for that, that is a fact

You know, everyone warrned me not to do business with you I guess I should have listened.

I suppose I should mention about the checks you wrote that bounced for insufficient funds.
BTW you still owe me $9,000.00 or did you forget how to pay your bandwidth bills.

Have a nice day, see you when I see you...

funkmaster · 08-01-2003, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain

Brad, you are still crying about us not letting you spam?

Sorry but ISPrime does not allow spam on our network. We have a responsibilty to look out for our clients.

Our tech supports sucks?? haha you are making yourself look like an idiot, ISPrime has outstanding support and any of our customers can vouch for that, that is a fact

You know, everyone warrned me not to do business with you I guess I should have listened.

I suppose I should mention about the checks you wrote that bounced for insufficient funds.
BTW you still owe me $9,000.00 or did you forget how to pay your bandwidth bills.

Have a nice day, see you when I see you...

... nice ... and what´s brads reply to this ?

Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by papichulo
Wow, that is a fucking great deal. Can XFR meet or Beat that? I like XFR's multihomed multi upstream provider and quality service but can they provide this for less than $5000 for a year contract?

You will not be missing a multihomed backbone with NationalNet. We currently have 6 Internet connections all ranging in multiples of 1000Gbps.

Consumptionjunction, siccash, platinumbucks, and many others trust their business to us.

You can find more info on our network here:
http://www.national-net.com/2003/networkinfra.php?c=2

webair · 08-01-2003, 11:21 AM

WEBAIR.COM

? Pentium 1.8GHz
? Unix or Windows OS
? 512 MB ECC RAM
? 60 GB Storage
? Unrestricted Bandwidth
? 10 IP Addresses
? Control Panel - Unlimited Domains
? 10 MBPS Transfer Per Mo.

$475 baby!

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Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by minifly
Is capped cheaper for some reason?,

I rather not cap my server as it makes it real slow when it
gets up there.

Since NationalNet invests so much in Support, we have capped the bandwidth on this package to make sure you don't take us to the cleaners...

Captain · 08-01-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... nice ... and what´s brads reply to this ?

Funkmaster what can he possibly reply with, that he has an ego bigger then his dick :P hahah that guy is funny he got upset when we shut down his SPAM server for violation of our AUP. It's pretty simple you spam you will be turned off. His reply was "But my current host lets me spam"

I spoke to Greg in Arizona he assured me he was going to rectify the issue amicably, and we let them run for another 45 days even though their checks bounced.

Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strife

yeah i know..what's up with that?!?

NationalNet is very customer service oriented. We like to build relationships with our clients. As you are aware, we offer 24/7/365 support via phone, email and web ticketing -- if you call at 4am, someone WILL answer and WILL help you.

We feel that posting prices and having online signup lessens the friendship we build with our clients and therefor we prefer to make direct contact with new clients.

If you'd like to speak with me, please call me on my mobile at 404-451-4238 or stop by the dollars.com booth on the convention floor.

AWC · 08-01-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Kabong
Sure, RackShack offers that deal (as they have for quite some time now), but before you run over there and order I'd do a search on this forum for other user experiences over there. RackShack is unmanaged, they're on Cogent (which may be fine for some people), and from the times I have had to deal with their tech support it has been AWFUL. I can't verify that Nat Net is NOT putting these on Cogent (someone else care to clarify?) but they are a well respected company that has been a big player for quite a long time now and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone complain about them. I'm not trying to swing anyone in any one direction, just warning to do your research before you jump.

Everytime I run a traceroute on my Rackshack server... It's riding on Time-Warner. I've yet to see Cogent show up.

Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by AWC

Everytime I ping my Rackshack server... It's riding on Time-Warner. I've yet to see Cogent show up.

Traceroute OUT from your server, not IN. There are very few hosts that show their true colors to incoming traces and pings.

I'm not trying to bash rackshack, I honestly have no clue about their connections, they very well may be sending web pages out Time Warner. Just wanted to inform you of a misconception about traceroutes.

AWC · 08-01-2003, 11:34 AM

well shit... when I traceroute OUT from my server via shell... Verio comes up.

Bear · 08-01-2003, 11:37 AM

Rackshack is not using Cogent. Their connections are even better than other ISP. You get lower price too.

BigFish · 08-01-2003, 11:49 AM

bad time for rackshack to be sold out of everything lol. Does any of natnet traffic run through cogent?

Jeffery · 08-01-2003, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
bad time for rackshack to be sold out of everything lol. Does any of natnet traffic run through cogent?

We do not have a Cogent Connection at NatNet.

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain

Brad, you are still crying about us not letting you spam?

Sorry but ISPrime does not allow spam on our network. We have a responsibilty to look out for our clients.

Our tech supports sucks?? haha you are making yourself look like an idiot, ISPrime has outstanding support and any of our customers can vouch for that, that is a fact

You know, everyone warrned me not to do business with you I guess I should have listened.

I suppose I should mention about the checks you wrote that bounced for insufficient funds.
BTW you still owe me $9,000.00 or did you forget how to pay your bandwidth bills.

Have a nice day, see you when I see you...

It is called a cancelled check, for services not rendered. If that check bounced, call the cops. That is the same account I pay out millions of dollars a year on to webmasters. If I bounced a check for $9k, wouldn't you have me arrested?

BTW, your customer service does suck IMHO. Buyer beware.

Give Alex kisses, enjoyed talking to him today when he called me over lunch. Once again he runs his mouth too much for his own good. He should be worried about his business, not me.

artware · 08-01-2003, 12:16 PM

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I honestly have no clue about their connections

Their connections and usage can be viewed on their website: RackShack network usage

They do have one GigE to Cogent still, but it is only a fraction of their total usage...

xxxdesign-net · 08-01-2003, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by webair
WEBAIR.COM

? Pentium 1.8GHz
? Unix or Windows OS
? 512 MB ECC RAM
? 60 GB Storage
? Unrestricted Bandwidth
? 10 IP Addresses
? Control Panel - Unlimited Domains
? 10 MBPS Transfer Per Mo.

$475 baby!

available until close of show...hit me on my cell if any webmasters want to meet up 516.650.1501

Hey Webair... so your offer is uncapped?

Is there a setup fee or contract?
is it congent?
do you offer Real-time web statistics ?
do you offer web base email accounts? (like mynatmail.com)

Shoplifter · 08-01-2003, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
You can get it (but double the hard drive space) at Rackshack.net for less. $399/month. And a $1 setup fee today to top it off.
If you find the previous client had the line capped, just have tech support uncap it.

What do you mean uncap it? All the RS 10 mbit setups are capped at 10 mbit.

Strife · 08-01-2003, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

Hey Webair... so your offer is uncapped?
Is there a setup fee or contract?
and is it congent?

Doubt Webair uses cogent bandwidth

Biggy2 · 08-01-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain

Brad, you are still crying about us not letting you spam?

Sorry but ISPrime does not allow spam on our network. We have a responsibilty to look out for our clients.

Our tech supports sucks?? haha you are making yourself look like an idiot, ISPrime has outstanding support and any of our customers can vouch for that, that is a fact

You know, everyone warrned me not to do business with you I guess I should have listened.

I suppose I should mention about the checks you wrote that bounced for insufficient funds.
BTW you still owe me $9,000.00 or did you forget how to pay your bandwidth bills.

Have a nice day, see you when I see you...

I'm so glad I am with ISPrime, ive been with them since day one.
It couldn't make me more happy that they post on a public forum about how if you spam you get turned off, and how isprime will even turn large biz away to uphold their policy.

If someone spams on a network, part of that network's IP space can be blacklisted by many networks, since there are sites like spews.org that look out for spamming bastards. How does this affect you as a webmaster, simple - if an ISP blocks that network cause its known for spam, surfers can't access your site, you lose traffic - thats why these hosts take a such a strong point against spam.

ISPrime is reputable, no one can argue that. Brad Shaw spams, i mean - he's even put it in his sig before about how he's etiher looking to buy or sell lists. I'm just surprised personally that NationalNet would let BradShaw spam from their network, since everyone talks so highly about them..

NationalNet, do you host BradShaw? Cause if you do, and you know he's spamming, I would turn him off as well, cause in essence you are letting all your other clients get fucked.

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 12:31 PM

Biggy2, you have no idea;-) Get back to your tgp.

Biggy2 · 08-01-2003, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Biggy2, you have no idea;-) Get back to your tgp.

brad, how can you deny it? ;)

I get spams to your porn sites in my inbox daily

If I give you some of my emails, will your promise to remove me from your lists?

Theo · 08-01-2003, 12:35 PM

if he has his own ip blocks he doesnt affect others

AdultNex · 08-01-2003, 12:37 PM

Although NationalNet are obviously overselling, I doubt anyone will step up for 10mbps for $485-- Considering they will accept adult websites.

Biggy2 · 08-01-2003, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
if he has his own ip blocks he doesnt affect others

either way, we all know the repercussions of spam..
i'm just glad i'm with a host who has a ZERO POLICY for spam and will turn away big business, rather than a host that will take spam..

sites like spews.org go after spammers, they wont just look at an IP block, they're gonna see whose hosting it, if it gets back to that company whose hosting it, you can be sure they will blacklist some of the IP space as well.

just ask some of the people who hosted on LikeWhoa near the end. I know some people whose traffic declined by almost 50% when they started taking spammers.

In NationalNet's defense, I checked spews.org and BradShaw's IP didn't come up in their database, but BradShaw also just switched over to NationalNet...

and its pretty obvious he spams, i get it in my inbox, lol

i just wouldnt want to take that chance personally

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 12:39 PM

If you get emails FROM me, you have either joined one of our sites, and put your email in a collecion box. If you do not want the email, remove, its pretty simple. You call that spam?

If you get emails to my sites, chances are they are affilates, we do not mail our own sites most of the time since the surfers have already seen them.

08-01-2003, 09:07 AM	#1
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	NationalNet offered 10mbps for $485... Where's the competition!? So anyone else can offer a similar deal but with an uncapped 10mbps connection? Let's hear it! NationalNet thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ght=uncapp ed

08-01-2003, 09:10 AM	#2
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08-01-2003, 09:26 AM	#6
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08-01-2003, 09:36 AM	#8
El Kabong Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 38	Sure, RackShack offers that deal (as they have for quite some time now), but before you run over there and order I'd do a search on this forum for other user experiences over there. RackShack is unmanaged, they're on Cogent (which may be fine for some people), and from the times I have had to deal with their tech support it has been AWFUL. I can't verify that Nat Net is NOT putting these on Cogent (someone else care to clarify?) but they are a well respected company that has been a big player for quite a long time now and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone complain about them. I'm not trying to swing anyone in any one direction, just warning to do your research before you jump. __________________ Mojo Boost - It's Like Viagra In A Bottle! TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

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08-01-2003, 09:15 AM	#3
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	You can pay through the ass double that at ISPRIME for 10 megabit capped like $950 or some crazy shit. Damn they need to lower there prices they are out of step with the market.

08-01-2003, 09:16 AM	#4
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	how many gigs is that roughly?

08-01-2003, 09:22 AM	#5
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	You can get it (but double the hard drive space) at Rackshack.net for less. $399/month. And a $1 setup fee today to top it off. If you find the previous client had the line capped, just have tech support uncap it.

08-01-2003, 09:32 AM	#7
Houdini Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,651	Jesus, I'm two weeks too late. I just setup with a host for 3mbs for $450. Fuck!

08-01-2003, 09:40 AM	#9
pheal Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 219	Nat Net should put some hosting prices on their sites.

08-01-2003, 09:46 AM	#11
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	$485 for the bandwidth...does this include the server? If so, what's the specs on the box?

08-01-2003, 10:34 AM	#14
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Wow, that is a fucking great deal. Can XFR meet or Beat that? I like XFR's multihomed multi upstream provider and quality service but can they provide this for less than $5000 for a year contract?

08-01-2003, 10:39 AM	#16
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	www.vibehosting.com has a sweet 10mbps deal I've been looking at. 3000 gigs a month on a 100mbps connection for $399 with a kick ass dual-drive server.

08-01-2003, 10:52 AM	#17
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	jesus

08-01-2003, 10:53 AM	#18
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	that's less than 15cents/gb

08-01-2003, 10:59 AM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	can i use them for spamming?

08-01-2003, 11:02 AM	#21
StupidNewbie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 864	oh my, thats a good deal.

08-01-2003, 11:03 AM	#22
ack Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 163	whats the overusage fee?

08-01-2003, 11:05 AM	#23
minifly Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: OC Posts: 40	Is capped cheaper for some reason?, I rather not cap my server as it makes it real slow when it gets up there.

08-01-2003, 11:07 AM	#25
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	ExtremeRack.com $299/mon 10Mbits Unlimited! Now Beat that!

08-01-2003, 11:34 AM	#35
AWC Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bumfuck Posts: 1,223	well shit... when I traceroute OUT from my server via shell... Verio comes up.

08-01-2003, 11:37 AM	#36
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	Rackshack is not using Cogent. Their connections are even better than other ISP. You get lower price too.

08-01-2003, 11:49 AM	#37
BigFish Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,159	bad time for rackshack to be sold out of everything lol. Does any of natnet traffic run through cogent?

08-01-2003, 12:31 PM	#45
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08-01-2003, 12:35 PM	#47
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if he has his own ip blocks he doesnt affect others

08-01-2003, 12:37 PM	#48
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Although NationalNet are obviously overselling, I doubt anyone will step up for 10mbps for $485-- Considering they will accept adult websites.

08-01-2003, 12:39 PM	#50
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	If you get emails FROM me, you have either joined one of our sites, and put your email in a collecion box. If you do not want the email, remove, its pretty simple. You call that spam? If you get emails to my sites, chances are they are affilates, we do not mail our own sites most of the time since the surfers have already seen them. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com