because myro.. adult is vulnrable.. more chance of signing up licensee's.. they have managed to bully/scare 27 companies so far, so I guess it's working to some extent.

If they went for AOL or whatever, like SCO suing IBM over patent infringement re: Unix code, they will be tied up in the courts for years.. but I suspect they didn't plan for IMPA, which will make sure this is tied up in the courts for years, one way or another!

I've gotten a packet from them for a company that uses no streaming, or downloadable music or videos.

:BangBang:

id like to beat babenet senseless for the 50 bucks the stole from me in '97

They already got a company who does *adult* video on demand to hotel rooms to sign a license after threatening to take them to court.. I think that's what bolstered their little egos enough to come after the adult community.

If you aren't in violation, just tell them.. wtf can they do then? Invent a patent for something you DO have on your sites and sue you? :)
:1orglaugh

Makes sense.

Long live IMPA.

What does it cost for a list of those registered at the show?
Only exhibitors may purchase the list?

Thinking twice about using my real info now.

That comment about serving people at the show has got me thinking too.

FACK!

All rejoice -- this doesn't happen very often! :1orglaugh

it's true

That's why Acacia has a booth!

50...

:BangBang: acacia

I seriously doubt that Internext sells or gives their list to anyone. The show list is too important to them. (AVN is alo on their hit list....) They may rent the list - but the buyer of the list never sees the names. That is why exhibitors rent the scanners and have drawings to collect names.

In trademark and patent cases - the holders are allowed to run down the list to anyone who made money off the feeds - which would include going down the food chain. Producer / Paysite /paysite affialiate.

If you want facts - go to the D-Money site and listen to the last program & then listen in to day for the Acacia side of the story.

I agree. I don't think their accusations towards IMPA will ever hold up....

It's going to be a really interesting Internext show floor that's for sure. :2 cents:

english?

Venus: Acacia is clued in pretty well. Besides the terms of their license agreement, which does demand a list of customers and or affiliates, Acacia is studying the boards.

If you are not using an affiliate program from one of the companies that has signed then using a message board like GFY is quite possibly how they "found" you.

IMO

http://www.impai.org

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Not surprising, babenet has always been cockholsters.

Do you not find it ironic, all the of companies who have raped and pilaladged this industry from day one, who have used slash and burn sales techniques ( Why do we have the 1% rule from VISA?), and now even when they are out of business, they continue to fuck the average webmaster.

I have been preaching about this since 1996.... glad some people are starting to wake up!

Many of the people you morons idolzied, the "players" who have been fucking you and the surfer for YEARS, making millions while laughing at your ignorance, feeding you hype and free drinks at their players balls and other parties are the same ones who made the deals early with Acacia, and are laughing again.

These people are ACTIVELY working with Acacia.... it goes beyond webmaster lists.

Glad the GFY mob is finally waking up from their long sleep....

also didn;t babenet leave without paying a lot of webmasters that were running affilate programs on their backend?

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Mike, you are 100% on. Same companies who have ruined this business, are behind and "supporting" Acacia. But then again, no real surprise, scum seems to stick together.

Bump ...

Because this needs to be seen and read by the masses

edit - spelling



cross reference
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index... 4de0d79153e7

For other companies that MAY be rolling over on small time webmasters

I've said this in other threads, but I'll post it again here just to set the record straight.

1. Hustler and Vivid were NEVER asked for affiliate information from Acacia.

2. There is nothing in our Acacia agreements that requests, demands or requires us to give out affiliate information.

3. If we were asked, we would not give out that information unless we were required to under a court order. Even then, we would fight that type of request to the end.

It sounds to me that they might have obtained their information from multiple sources. I can't speak for anyone else, but we were not one of those sources.

So anybody that settles with them, has to give the list of affiliates! That's fucking bullshit!

I don't even run movies off my host!

jDoG

I would suspect that that would be against the privacy agreement that the affiliate agrees with. Except if there is a court order!

jDoG