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HighRez 07-29-2003 07:33 AM

50...

:BangBang: acacia

Sharpie 07-29-2003 07:37 AM

I seriously doubt that Internext sells or gives their list to anyone. The show list is too important to them. (AVN is alo on their hit list....) They may rent the list - but the buyer of the list never sees the names. That is why exhibitors rent the scanners and have drawings to collect names.

In trademark and patent cases - the holders are allowed to run down the list to anyone who made money off the feeds - which would include going down the food chain. Producer / Paysite /paysite affialiate.

If you want facts - go to the D-Money site and listen to the last program & then listen in to day for the Acacia side of the story.

HighRez 07-29-2003 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


No kidding, what bullshit! They accuse the IMPA of conspiracy, yet they've got their own conspiracy in full swing, to commit extortion. Fuck that.

I agree. I don't think their accusations towards IMPA will ever hold up....

It's going to be a really interesting Internext show floor that's for sure. :2 cents:

PotentMind 07-29-2003 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Simey
I wouldnt be surprised if their were a few companies selling their lists. Babenet dont my info but i go a letter.
english?

Far-L 07-29-2003 09:44 AM

Venus: Acacia is clued in pretty well. Besides the terms of their license agreement, which does demand a list of customers and or affiliates, Acacia is studying the boards.

If you are not using an affiliate program from one of the companies that has signed then using a message board like GFY is quite possibly how they "found" you.

IMO

http://www.impai.org

GFED 10-24-2003 10:52 AM

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Mike AI 10-24-2003 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by BVF
That's hard to believe but WOW!
Not surprising, babenet has always been cockholsters.

Do you not find it ironic, all the of companies who have raped and pilaladged this industry from day one, who have used slash and burn sales techniques ( Why do we have the 1% rule from VISA?), and now even when they are out of business, they continue to fuck the average webmaster.

I have been preaching about this since 1996.... glad some people are starting to wake up!

Many of the people you morons idolzied, the "players" who have been fucking you and the surfer for YEARS, making millions while laughing at your ignorance, feeding you hype and free drinks at their players balls and other parties are the same ones who made the deals early with Acacia, and are laughing again.

These people are ACTIVELY working with Acacia.... it goes beyond webmaster lists.

Glad the GFY mob is finally waking up from their long sleep....

bigdog 10-24-2003 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI


Not surprising, babenet has always been cockholsters.

Do you not find it ironic, all the of companies who have raped and pilaladged this industry from day one, who have used slash and burn sales techniques ( Why do we have the 1% rule from VISA?), and now even when they are out of business, they continue to fuck the average webmaster.

I have been preaching about this since 1996.... glad some people are starting to wake up!

Many of the people you morons idolzied, the "players" who have been fucking you and the surfer for YEARS, making millions while laughing at your ignorance, feeding you hype and free drinks at their players balls and other parties are the same ones who made the deals early with Acacia, and are laughing again.

These people are ACTIVELY working with Acacia.... it goes beyond webmaster lists.

Glad the GFY mob is finally waking up from their long sleep....

also didn;t babenet leave without paying a lot of webmasters that were running affilate programs on their backend?

GFED 10-24-2003 11:50 AM

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BradShaw 10-24-2003 11:55 AM

Mike, you are 100% on. Same companies who have ruined this business, are behind and "supporting" Acacia. But then again, no real surprise, scum seems to stick together.

Vick 10-24-2003 12:08 PM

Bump ...

Because this needs to be seen and read by the masses

edit - spelling



cross reference
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index... 4de0d79153e7

For other companies that MAY be rolling over on small time webmasters

Ken 10-24-2003 12:23 PM

I've said this in other threads, but I'll post it again here just to set the record straight.

1. Hustler and Vivid were NEVER asked for affiliate information from Acacia.

2. There is nothing in our Acacia agreements that requests, demands or requires us to give out affiliate information.

3. If we were asked, we would not give out that information unless we were required to under a court order. Even then, we would fight that type of request to the end.

It sounds to me that they might have obtained their information from multiple sources. I can't speak for anyone else, but we were not one of those sources.

JDog 10-24-2003 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
ACtually, it's not hard to believe at all. Their license agreement flat out ASKS for a list of all your affiliates and suppliers. Surprise, you're all fucked by everyone that has signed with them.

Brad

So anybody that settles with them, has to give the list of affiliates! That's fucking bullshit!

I don't even run movies off my host!

jDoG

JDog 10-24-2003 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Ken
3. If we were asked, we would not give out that information unless we were required to under a court order. Even then, we would fight that type of request to the end.
I would suspect that that would be against the privacy agreement that the affiliate agrees with. Except if there is a court order!

jDoG


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