Dutchbilling lost their customers! - GoFuckYourself.com

monro · 07-31-2003, 01:52 AM

I do think this stupid changes at Dutchbilling did that they lost their
customers and where forced to close!
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2003-06-02
Dear webmaster,

Last month we have announced changes in our terms and conditions,
and increase of our fees.

For this reason we would like you to read over the new DutchBilling
Agreement, available in the DutchBilling Control Center at
<http://www.dutchbilling.com/db_06.html>

Rates are increased with another 3% charge on your volume for both credit card and check transactions. Also the holdback has been changed to 20% as a 6 months rolling reserve.

For the modifications of our terms and conditions, please refer to page six in the agreement.

You can fax your signed agreement to +31 30 2817491. When we have received the signed agreement we will change your account status to 'authorized' again.

If you need more information, please contact Merchant Support at [email protected].

Thank you for your co-operation.

DutchBilling Management
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After that blow come this mail: (2003-06-11 )

Dear Merchants,

There has recently been questions from Webmasters over the amendment stating that you must use DutchBilling as your exclusive billing service on your site(s).

After speaking to our legal department, we have decided the following rules
will apply to this new amendment:

In the following 24 hours, all webmasters who are using other billing services must eliminate these services from their sites, or stop their business relationship with us.
The following will also not be allowed; If you have your own billing platform
then your contract with Dutch Billing will be terminated, this can either be initiated by yourself or by our organization. We will also not be continuing business with
webmasters who are creating serperate pages with other billing platforms.

For example, You are not allowed to have DutchBilling on one page and
have another page with another billing agency on it.

Separate join pages will also not be allowed. For example, ww2.sitename.com
will not be allowed.

The above rules do not apply to dialers.

After the 24 hour time span, we will be checking your sites. If we see a billing
platform other than the DutchBilling platform,you will be put on unauthorized and your contract will be terminated with our organzation. Your sites will be checked at various times (also in the weekends). If you are caught with another billing platform you will be put on unauthorized and your contract will be terminated.

If you have any questions or comments concerning this matter please feel free
to contact our organization.

With Regards,
Dutch Billing Legal Department
Dutch Billing Staff

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Of course it was Duchbilling being
deleted, not ccbill etc!

TheViper · 07-31-2003, 02:09 AM

Vivaldi · 07-31-2003, 02:26 AM

nope

globill, egspay - have been closed. not because of the clients, but because of visashit!

NewView · 07-31-2003, 03:27 AM

Well changing their rules was in order of Mister Burger.

He did not understand why they had fraud and was thinking that the webmaster was involved with all the fraud they had in their system.

monro · 07-31-2003, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vivaldi
nope

globill, egspay - have been closed. not because of the clients, but because of visashit!

If you had two payment systems on your site, one being Dutchbilling, the other one ccbill, wich should you keep after receiving the mails from Dutchbilling mentioned above?

Vivaldi · 07-31-2003, 05:01 AM

man, i feel sorry for all the paysite owners that used those billing systems.

that was a very bad move from the visas part

07-31-2003, 01:52 AM	#1
monro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 787	Dutchbilling lost their customers! I do think this stupid changes at Dutchbilling did that they lost their customers and where forced to close! ******************************************* 2003-06-02 Dear webmaster, Last month we have announced changes in our terms and conditions, and increase of our fees. For this reason we would like you to read over the new DutchBilling Agreement, available in the DutchBilling Control Center at <http://www.dutchbilling.com/db_06.html> Rates are increased with another 3% charge on your volume for both credit card and check transactions. Also the holdback has been changed to 20% as a 6 months rolling reserve. For the modifications of our terms and conditions, please refer to page six in the agreement. You can fax your signed agreement to +31 30 2817491. When we have received the signed agreement we will change your account status to 'authorized' again. If you need more information, please contact Merchant Support at [email protected]. Thank you for your co-operation. DutchBilling Management ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ After that blow come this mail: (2003-06-11 ) Dear Merchants, There has recently been questions from Webmasters over the amendment stating that you must use DutchBilling as your exclusive billing service on your site(s). After speaking to our legal department, we have decided the following rules will apply to this new amendment: In the following 24 hours, all webmasters who are using other billing services must eliminate these services from their sites, or stop their business relationship with us. The following will also not be allowed; If you have your own billing platform then your contract with Dutch Billing will be terminated, this can either be initiated by yourself or by our organization. We will also not be continuing business with webmasters who are creating serperate pages with other billing platforms. For example, You are not allowed to have DutchBilling on one page and have another page with another billing agency on it. Separate join pages will also not be allowed. For example, ww2.sitename.com will not be allowed. The above rules do not apply to dialers. After the 24 hour time span, we will be checking your sites. If we see a billing platform other than the DutchBilling platform,you will be put on unauthorized and your contract will be terminated with our organzation. Your sites will be checked at various times (also in the weekends). If you are caught with another billing platform you will be put on unauthorized and your contract will be terminated. If you have any questions or comments concerning this matter please feel free to contact our organization. With Regards, Dutch Billing Legal Department Dutch Billing Staff ***************** Of course it was Duchbilling being deleted, not ccbill etc!

07-31-2003, 02:26 AM	#3
Vivaldi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 303	nope globill, egspay - have been closed. not because of the clients, but because of visashit! __________________ don't even think about it

07-31-2003, 05:01 AM	#6
Vivaldi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 303	man, i feel sorry for all the paysite owners that used those billing systems. that was a very bad move from the visas part __________________ don't even think about it

07-31-2003, 02:09 AM	#2
TheViper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the streets. Posts: 2,560

07-31-2003, 03:27 AM	#4
NewView Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 54	Well changing their rules was in order of Mister Burger. He did not understand why they had fraud and was thinking that the webmaster was involved with all the fraud they had in their system.