Originally posted by Lightspeed He did? I was just at his house, is it because I don't like sushi?
Steve Lightspeed
There has been an error:
You have a sponsor on your gallery that entraps people in their program. They either disable the backbutton or pop so many consoles users can't go back where they came from.
The problem I have with this is that people will learn that clicking a banner results in being caught up in console loops and popup windows. That's not what they should learn. A paysite should promote it's quality, not it's ability to pop consoles through hahahahahahahahahaha. Surfers will not click a banner if they went through console hells a couple of times. Which means both you and I won't make any sales anymore. Making money through banners will be impossible if the market is invested with paranoid surfers who don't dare to click anymore.
Your gallery is declined. Check your sponsors and remove the one(s) that pop consoles or entrap people. Or look on their site to check if they offer a console-less version of their program. Thanks in advance.
LSC is not banned .. thehun returns this message if you push alot of sponsors directly .. make a in-between page before the user hits the sponsor, then you can even use the pop-up tours..
My guess is that the LSC no-console tours turns off the users possibility to hit the back button or something..
Originally posted by Lightspeed He did? I was just at his house, is it because I don't like sushi?
Steve Lightspeed
Yeah, that's it. It's a payback for the 30 bucks I had to spend on spareribs for you guys! ;-)
Nah, we discussed the topic of consoles, I brought it up through e-mail later, but I can't link to programs popping too many consoles. Which is the problem in this case. Peolpe here state LSC is reliable, well, no doubt whatsoever in my mind that that's true,
Steve, you're always welcome here, no problem. please don't take this as a stab in the back, it's not in any way, shape or form meant as that, but the consoles are the problem... same thing that happened to AP...
The Hun's business is to keep bookmarkers and traffic to sell gallery spots to newbies at a "reasonnable??!?!?!" price He does not give a fuck if the sponsor is reliable or not. Stop whining.
Originally posted by Lightspeed "popping too many consoles"
please define "too many"
Looks like the Huns big ego can not be bought with a dinner or some tits in his face. Too bad most webmasters can be much easier to manipulate, as Steve knows.
More than zero?
No. A lightspeed link will popup 1. That will pop 1, that will pop 1.
That second pops 3. The third pops 3.
In the end, you wound up with 9 popups for visiting a lightspeed sponsorpage.
I've done it myself and counted. Sometimes it's more.
I can not speak for the no-console link though.
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
Wow!!! What an amazingly comprehensive list and outstanding resource!!! Never seen a piece of shit site like that before!!!! Please spam it again, everyone should know about it!!!
Originally posted by Brad-Wishing I can not speak for the no-console link though.
The no-console link pops one console. Sorry, my bad, it isn't a console, it's a pop under. Seriously, that's what they posted on their board and I'm still trying to figure out how to explain the difference to surfers when I promise them no-pop links.
Nice sites obviously, and nice people apparently. A bit 1998 when it comes to consoles tho...
The no-console link pops one console. Sorry, my bad, it isn't a console, it's a pop under. Seriously, that's what they posted on their board and I'm still trying to figure out how to explain the difference to surfers when I promise them no-pop links.
Nice sites obviously, and nice people apparently. A bit 1998 when it comes to consoles tho...
I thought no console links were zero pop ups? As for 9 consoles, Zebra loves those consoles! He may even sneak in a link or two of his own;-)
Wow!!! What an amazingly comprehensive list and outstanding resource!!! Never seen a piece of shit site like that before!!!! Please spam it again, everyone should know about it!!!
People should never link directly to sponsor on galleries submitted to BIG tgp's anyways. The number will be inflated so you might as well filter clicks through an FPA to get the productive numbers. As well, linking to an FPA means you have a very minimal chance of being stuck with a listed gallery that may have the wrong link code on it. Having an FPA also increases traffic to your own network of sites if done properly. Or if you really want to get creative (with sponsos permission of course) build yoru own tour and link to join page. Bypass all the bullshit sponsors put surfers through.
Steve only likes the boards when they say great things about him. Thanks for the party, thanks for the booze, thanks for providing somewhere to smoke out, etc.
When the heat is on Steve, he cracks and uses diversionary tactics. If you want to see Steve donate $ to charity or speak out against child porn, someone ride him for a couple hours. It is like clock work.
There is a few console free tours blocked from thehun because the script thinks they have consoles. Some are just sites and not the entire program though.
Yeah, that's it. It's a payback for the 30 bucks I had to spend on spareribs for you guys! ;-)
Nah, we discussed the topic of consoles, I brought it up through e-mail later, but I can't link to programs popping too many consoles. Which is the problem in this case. Peolpe here state LSC is reliable, well, no doubt whatsoever in my mind that that's true,
Steve, you're always welcome here, no problem. please don't take this as a stab in the back, it's not in any way, shape or form meant as that, but the consoles are the problem... same thing that happened to AP...
Patrick, I've sent you two emails in the last few months to make sure our console-free options are unbanned, but I haven't heard back. Where's the love?
Originally posted by cmwkings The hun is awesome and they don't like the same inundated shit like I do'n't list on my sites....I am sick of Tawnee Stone and so are my surfers
Tawnee Stone!? She's still selling?! WTF? I thought she was too old for the internet porn.
Originally posted by NoCarrier The Hun's business is to keep bookmarkers and traffic to sell gallery spots to newbies at a "reasonnable??!?!?!" price He does not give a fuck if the sponsor is reliable or not. Stop whining.
Exactly......Hun has built his site based on quality, and a sponsor with to many bull crap pops is Not cool with Hun, plain and simple.
Originally posted by Brad-Wishing More than zero?
No. A lightspeed link will popup 1. That will pop 1, that will pop 1.
That second pops 3. The third pops 3.
In the end, you wound up with 9 popups for visiting a lightspeed sponsorpage.
I've done it myself and counted. Sometimes it's more.
I can not speak for the no-console link though.
Out of the 9 popups our affiliates get credit for 7. Those extra 7 popups are responsible for a 20% increase in sales for affiliates. It is never more than 9 popups.
Originally posted by BradShaw As for 9 consoles, Zebra loves those consoles! He may even sneak in a link or two of his own;-)
Brad - you own sites have at least 7 consoles each.
That last line was a pretty low hit, even for you.
We have nothing against each other, let's not change that.
Patrick, I've sent you two emails in the last few months to make sure our console-free options are unbanned, but I haven't heard back. Where's the love?
I can tell you that some of the console free $10 porn programs are not banned after an email exchange I had with him earlier this week. I don't know about the rest of your stuff.
Originally posted by Zebra Out of the 9 popups our affiliates get credit for 7. Those extra 7 popups are responsible for a 20% increase in sales for affiliates.
Someone records 90 sales, noting that 15 came from consoles. Next thing he is claiming that consoles increase sales 20% (btw why is it always 20%?). Actually no: that is pure assumption. The numbers themselves tell us nothing more than the source of the sales. The only way to know how consoles impact on sales would be to run some solid comparison tests.
We know surfers don't like consoles, so when a site launches an entry console, some visitors, including some potential customers, must shut the whole site in disgust. That's fine if the console generates 10 sales for a cost of say 5, but most of us take that on trust. We have no numbers to support the belief.
Exit consoles are no different. We know that not everyone buys on their first visit to a site and even a single console, let alone a barrage of them, is going to deter some of those who might have bought tomorrow or next week. Does anyone actually know how many are turned off?
And even if consoles do produce a net gain, why? Could it be that we send too many surfers to places they don't want to go? So for example, a guy looking for big tits doesn't buy at the teen site he was sent to, but spots a big tits site on a console?
Perhaps the most important factor is whether you are a sponsor or an affiliate. Sponsors, especially those who don't pay on all consoles, must love affiliates who send them untargeted traffic. If affiliates filtered their traffic effectively and made their links clear, surfers looking for big tits wouldn't be sent to teen sites in the first place. That would kill the value of any big tits links on that site's consoles. No-one is claiming that consoles sell better than sites, so an affiliate who targets his traffic well, has to score more sales overall. And how many times does a surfer quit an affiliate site instead of maybe checking out a second sponsor, because he got hit with consoles by the first one?
I have used consoles ever since they first appeared. But I wish I had enough traffic to run valid comparisons to either prove or disprove the conventional wisdom. I can't help wondering why, if such tactics are really productive, there is no other sales environment in which we would dream of doing anything similar.
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