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Flow · 07-25-2003, 07:24 PM

Hey,

I was doing so research on patents and I came across this article. Very informative if you want to take the time to read it and learn a little bit about how things work. I would suggest everybody read it as there is some advise for everybody in there.

I was amazed (not) really to see who this article outlines exactly what is happen to the adult industry as we speak.

Here is the article (please do not kill the messager):

http://www.hightech-iplaw.com/leswibar2003.pdf

Flow

FATPad · 07-25-2003, 07:47 PM

That was kinda interesting actually.

Flow · 07-25-2003, 07:56 PM

It is long but I learned a lot more than what I knew yesterday after I got done with it.

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2003, 08:17 PM

Thanks, that's pretty cool, a good read

SykkBoy · 07-25-2003, 08:52 PM

Thanks for the link
That is a definite must read

jcnlv · 07-25-2003, 09:29 PM

Great article. It really explains in detail what is going on, the options on dealing with it and what might be expected in the future.

I hope everyone will read it.

Thanks for passing it on.

Mishi · 07-26-2003, 12:01 AM

Excellent stuff, Flow, thanks.

hybrid · 07-26-2003, 12:09 AM

www.nolo.com

Nothing more you need.

detoxed · 07-26-2003, 12:10 AM

How about a patent on the education process? Every school in the country would have to pay you.....

media · 07-26-2003, 12:49 AM

D. A patent is granted for an invention that is new, novel and nonobvious.
35 U.S.C. §§102, 103.

Hahaha, non obvious....

Why were they given the fucking patent then.. someone at the patent office should have a shoe shoved up their ass..

Media

Flow · 07-26-2003, 09:03 AM

Having read the article, it is ever clearer that the way to beat this is to find some form of prior art. Having read this tread about the subject:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=156828

it can be many form.....

What What Can Be Used As Prior Art For Invalidating A Patent?

In essence, any publication, in any language, located anywhere in the world is valid prior art for invalidating a U.S. Patent. One copy of a thesis, written in the Chinese language and stored on a dusty shelf of the Beijing University Library will invalidate any and all U.S. patents that were filed one year after that thesis was published and that claims as an invention ANY of the subject matter that was disclosed in that thesis.
A publication can be, among other things: a thesis, a PHD dissertation, a journal article, a text book, a newspaper article, a patent, a home work assignment, a white paper, written materials handed out during a presentation, a product, or a product brochure.

A publication is NOT: your recollection of what someone once said, someone's recollection of what they themselves once said, a trade secret, or a confidential company memo. The upshot is that prior art must be publicly available, and it must be printed (or a physical object

Flow · 07-26-2003, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by media
D. A patent is granted for an invention that is new, novel and nonobvious.
35 U.S.C. §§102, 103.

Hahaha, non obvious....

Why were they given the fucking patent then.. someone at the patent office should have a shoe shoved up their ass..

Media

Many of the articles I have read on the subject said that due to the Internet they were being flooded with patent request. Being as they are not the most scientific of folks (paraphrasing here) they were not sure what a lot of it meant (they still don't) so if they could not find any prior art in their limited search, they granted the patent.

All we need to do is if find some prior art and this problem goes away.

Flow

cash69 · 07-26-2003, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flow
Having read the article, it is ever clearer that the way to beat this is to find some form of prior art. Having read this tread about the subject:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=156828

it can be many form.....

What What Can Be Used As Prior Art For Invalidating A Patent?

In essence, any publication, in any language, located anywhere in the world is valid prior art for invalidating a U.S. Patent. One copy of a thesis, written in the Chinese language and stored on a dusty shelf of the Beijing University Library will invalidate any and all U.S. patents that were filed one year after that thesis was published and that claims as an invention ANY of the subject matter that was disclosed in that thesis.
A publication can be, among other things: a thesis, a PHD dissertation, a journal article, a text book, a newspaper article, a patent, a home work assignment, a white paper, written materials handed out during a presentation, a product, or a product brochure.

A publication is NOT: your recollection of what someone once said, someone's recollection of what they themselves once said, a trade secret, or a confidential company memo. The upshot is that prior art must be publicly available, and it must be printed (or a physical object

why doens't some one just pay some poor country 10,000$ to magically find their text books and written materials and all kinds of other shit about streaming video's? would a streaming video on a movie work? i bet there's alot of movies about some kind of future in space that show the holigram in the middle of the space ship.. that's streaming video

Far-L · 07-26-2003, 09:51 AM

Flow: Thank you for posting that!

http://www.impai.org

cash69 · 07-26-2003, 10:14 AM

well does streaming video on a movie work? as long as it's before they "patented streaming video" ????????????????????

Flow · 07-26-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cash69
well does streaming video on a movie work? as long as it's before they "patented streaming video" ????????????????????

Not a lawyer so not sure. Contact they guys at http://www.impai.org if you think you have something.

Later,
Flow

nwbsd · 07-26-2003, 10:52 AM

isn't video conferencing streaming?

from http://www.tkoworks.com/video-conferencing/

History
Video conferencing first became commercially available in the 1970's as a unique form of communicating over great distances. However, prior to the mid-1980's the high cost of equipment, network lines and its comparably poor quality kept it out of mainstream business use. Then, in the early 1990's, digital communication service offerings such as ISDN and Switched Digital Service began sweeping across both Europe and the United States. This laid the foundational network capability that has enabled widespread use of video technologies including video conferencing.

pimplink · 07-26-2003, 10:59 AM

Thanks for sharing the link. Very informative! Gives hope to the guys thinking of resisting Acacia's claim.

Quote:

Originally posted by Flow
Hey,

I was doing so research on patents and I came across this article. Very informative if you want to take the time to read it and learn a little bit about how things work. I would suggest everybody read it as there is some advise for everybody in there.

I was amazed (not) really to see who this article outlines exactly what is happen to the adult industry as we speak.

Here is the article (please do not kill the messager):

http://www.hightech-iplaw.com/leswibar2003.pdf

Flow

fiveyes · 07-26-2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nwbsd
isn't video conferencing streaming?

from http://www.tkoworks.com/video-conferencing/

History
Video conferencing first became commercially available in the 1970's as a unique form of communicating over great distances. However, prior to the mid-1980's the high cost of equipment, network lines and its comparably poor quality kept it out of mainstream business use. Then, in the early 1990's, digital communication service offerings such as ISDN and Switched Digital Service began sweeping across both Europe and the United States. This laid the foundational network capability that has enabled widespread use of video technologies including video conferencing.

Look at it this way, a sewing machine is a way to sew clothes and there are hundreds of patents that cover sewing machines. But no one patent could possibly be for a vague "machine that sews clothes". The patent is for _specific ways_ to sew clothes. These are what are known as the "claims" of a patent.

As it is, the patent(s) held by Acacia describe, in their claims;[list=1][*]a way of storing compressed, digitized media [*]in a library that has a listing of the offerings[*]which is used to choose a selection[*]for download and viewing by users of the system.[/list=1]
That's a basic (probably too basic, I'm still working on it and would appreciate feedback) cliff notes version of the claims. And, it certainly describes how we use video files on our sites.

Prior art has to be a published work (before 1992) that describes all of these claims within it.

pornguy · 07-26-2003, 12:36 PM

I learned a few things from the thing also, but i kinda wonder who wrote it..

In some sections it makes it seem like it is way tooooo expensive a regular small company to try to fight this. It just kinda made me feel like maybe someone from acacia may have dont that article in hops to push off some of us, buy saying that it will cost more than it is worth.

But in other sections I felt like it was written to help us...

just my

07-25-2003, 07:24 PM	#1
Flow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 518	An education on Patents Hey, I was doing so research on patents and I came across this article. Very informative if you want to take the time to read it and learn a little bit about how things work. I would suggest everybody read it as there is some advise for everybody in there. I was amazed (not) really to see who this article outlines exactly what is happen to the adult industry as we speak. Here is the article (please do not kill the messager): http://www.hightech-iplaw.com/leswibar2003.pdf Flow

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Flow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 518	Having read the article, it is ever clearer that the way to beat this is to find some form of prior art. Having read this tread about the subject: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=156828 it can be many form..... What What Can Be Used As Prior Art For Invalidating A Patent? In essence, any publication, in any language, located anywhere in the world is valid prior art for invalidating a U.S. Patent. One copy of a thesis, written in the Chinese language and stored on a dusty shelf of the Beijing University Library will invalidate any and all U.S. patents that were filed one year after that thesis was published and that claims as an invention ANY of the subject matter that was disclosed in that thesis. A publication can be, among other things: a thesis, a PHD dissertation, a journal article, a text book, a newspaper article, a patent, a home work assignment, a white paper, written materials handed out during a presentation, a product, or a product brochure. A publication is NOT: your recollection of what someone once said, someone's recollection of what they themselves once said, a trade secret, or a confidential company memo. The upshot is that prior art must be publicly available, and it must be printed (or a physical object

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