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gothweb · 07-26-2003, 07:27 AM

One of my only remaining competitors has apparently been passing on comments I make on this board, without context, to other gothic webmasters.

I just got a furious stream of IMs from a webmistress I work with sometimes. Apparently, Amelia G. passed on some of my globill comments to her. From what I can tell based on this girl's rant at me, the comments were given without context and maybe even twisted.

Nice, Amelia. Nice.

BRISK · 07-26-2003, 07:29 AM

It's a dirty business we're in.

cherrylula · 07-26-2003, 07:32 AM

I heard a rumor that a lot of spookycash affiliates changed their old link codes out to another similar program, since it seems they will not be paid for their sales.

ok, to your program hehe

Jakke PNG · 07-26-2003, 07:32 AM

Everything people talk about me is true

digifan · 07-26-2003, 07:35 AM

Cheer up, man.

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 07:36 AM

I might as well say it here, since apparently some people think they understand my total position on GloBill based on a few comments I made on GFY...

1.) I think GloBill was a shady business. The idea of looking at new Visa regulations, and then basing their whole business practice on loopholes was just begging for trouble.

2.) I think anyone running a program through GloBill either knew the risks they were getting their webmasters into, or should have.

3.) I think it sucks that a lot of people who run sites, or use globill-based sponsor programs, are screwed. I wish them luck in getting back on their feet with CCBill.

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by digifan
Cheer up, man.

Call me crazy, but I hate it when someone I like is so pissed at me that they can't even listen to me. I hate it more when it happens because someone is spreading rumours about me.

EscortBiz · 07-26-2003, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Call me crazy, but I hate it when someone I like is so pissed at me that they can't even listen to me. I hate it more when it happens because someone is spreading rumours about me.

You hate those Escort sites dont ya

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

You hate those Escort sites dont ya

Hate is a strong word. I think escort-based business need to own up to the legal and moral implication of promoting prostitution. That's all.

ForrestBlack · 07-26-2003, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Hate is a strong word. I think escort-based business need to own up to the legal and moral implication of promoting prostitution. That's all.

You pay your girlfriend to suck your cock.

cherrylula · 07-26-2003, 07:46 AM

hell yeah, let the mudslinging begin...

Va2k · 07-26-2003, 07:47 AM

I think you are a good guy

cherrylula · 07-26-2003, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ForrestBlack

You pay your girlfriend to suck your cock.

at least his affiliates are getting paid too.

jimmyf · 07-26-2003, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Everything people talk about me is true

I knew it

jimmyf · 07-26-2003, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
I think you are a good guy

me 2

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 07:59 AM

Please don't bitch about prostitution when most of your aquaintences promote it every fucking day of their lives.

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Please don't bitch about prostitution when most of your aquaintences promote it every fucking day of their lives.

Are you talking to me? Which of my acquaintences promote prostitution?

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ForrestBlack

You pay your girlfriend to suck your cock.

Again showing how professional you people are.

EscortBiz · 07-26-2003, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Are you talking to me? Which of my acquaintences promote prostitution?

You will stop bashing stuff you know shit about or ill make you stop that simple, it's up to you.

But trust me I will make good on my word, and you can't do shit about it.

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb

Are you talking to me? Which of my acquaintences promote prostitution?

Most everyone on this forum.

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Most everyone on this forum.

I am an aquiantance and long time affiliate of Ians, I dont push nor do I promote escorts.

EscortBiz · 07-26-2003, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb

What exactly are you threatening? And, more importantly, why exactly are you so threatened by me? Get a grip.

You will see what I mean and learn how good of a grip some people have.

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I am an aquiantance and long time affiliate of Ians, I dont push nor do I promote escorts.

I wasn't referring to escorts. I was referring to the thousands of girls that are sucking dick and getting fucking in every hole for $200 from a cheap ass content provider.

Prostitution = Sex for money.
Porn = Sex for money with the exception of softcore/solo.

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

I wasn't referring to escorts. I was referring to the thousands of girls that are sucking dick and getting fucking in every hole for $200 from a cheap ass content provider.

Prostitution = Sex for money.
Porn = Sex for money with the exception of softcore/solo.

Sure, if you say so.

AmeliaG · 07-26-2003, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I heard a rumor that a lot of spookycash affiliates changed their old link codes out to another similar program, since it seems they will not be paid for their sales.

ok, to your program hehe

Well, BRISK is right that it is a dirty biz if people are using my banners or site names or anything like that for that purpose. If people are just switching to non-Globill sponsors while everyone gets switched over, that just makes sense. Spooky Cash webmasters will be taken care of.

As far as a webmaster who runs a couple of small sites in a niche related to mine goes . . . I certainly did not twist anything he said on this board. I sent a friend I was comiserating with links. I also did not come on this board chortling when he had problems in the past -- even though I warned him personally beforehand that he was going to have those problems. I was not prancing around going "I told you so, I told you so, nanny nanny boo boo." If he does not want to stand behind what he said, he should not have said it.

I was already with Globill when the whole Visa thing went down. In addition to my concerns about registration, I felt some loyalty for a processor which had given me excellent support, timely payments, and low chargebacks. I know a small webmaster who totally ditched his whole supposed coalition of quality and sold out to a company which later threw him back, despite his breach of contract, for being too small a fish. When I told him he should not do what precipitated that, he told me that he was living on a thousand hits a day and he was not really gothic anyway and if he had to sell out so what. Well, the so what is that he screwed his friends and apparently his soul was not very valuable.

I know everyone's favorite self-righteous, pseudo-moralistic board whore has been hoping to get a rise out of me all day. (Yes, little webmaster, your friends do remember how loyal you were to them.) Well, he finally got a response. But I'll be ignoring him in the future. He is not culturally or artistically committed and his sites don't convert like mine do. I will totally support the little guy if I believe in what he is doing, but, if the little guy is not very nice and is constantly looking for a fight, at the end of the day, he is just not important.

If any Spooky Cash webmasters have any questions or concerns they would like to communicate, please feel free to drop me a line at [email protected] We should be good to go again soon and, if CCBill is half as good as people say, then it will probably turn out to be for the best anyway. So far the CCBill folks have been terrific.

FATPad · 07-26-2003, 08:08 AM

Honestly, I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn movies. Pay chick, she has sex, she leaves. How you can say prostitution is morally corrupt while porn is not is beyond me.

Personally, I don't have a problem with either, so I'm not saying porn people are morally bankrupt...just that prostitution is not really below porn on any morality scale.

EscortBiz · 07-26-2003, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Honestly, I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn movies. Pay chick, she has sex, she leaves. How you can say prostitution is morally corrupt while porn is not is beyond me.

Personally, I don't have a problem with either, so I'm not saying porn people are morally bankrupt...just that prostitution is not really below porn on any morality scale.

EXACTLY

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Honestly, I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn movies. Pay chick, she has sex, she leaves. How you can say prostitution is morally corrupt while porn is not is beyond me.

Personally, I don't have a problem with either, so I'm not saying porn people are morally bankrupt...just that prostitution is not really below porn on any morality scale.

I dont care about either as well, but to say they are the same is silly.

How is me calling a girl to come over go out with me to dinner, and POSSIBLY fuck me, the same as me watching a porn sdvd?

cmon guys, you people should be smarter than this.
They cannot be the same ;)

Its too early, ill rather watch the rest of you

hahah

directfiesta · 07-26-2003, 08:10 AM

There is NOTHING wrong with prostitution per se.

In fact, it should be legalized, medically controled, practiced in a safe , secure and exciting enviroment. And naturally pay taxes....

I have a hard time understanding the brain of an adultwebmaster that pays girls or guys to shoot stuff, get cummed on and then looks at prostitution as a disease.

I don't have an escort site, I don't promote any ( in fact I don't promote ANY site: I do mine(s)) and don't use services from escort.

But I also don't judge others that do.

EscortBiz · 07-26-2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Its too early, ill rather watch the rest of you

hahah

Good idea

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta

In fact, it should be legalized, medically controled, practiced in a safe , secure and exciting enviroment. And naturally pay taxes....

Been done before in the US, century ago, didnt work.

History reminds us how often we fail.

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG

but, if the little guy is not very nice and is constantly looking for a fight, at the end of the day, he is just not important.

He is a genereal jackass eh?

Oh yea and uh.... BURN!

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 08:13 AM

I don't even know where to begin with what is wrong with Amelia's description of past events, so I won't bother.

I will just say this... I've always wanted to work with you guys. I think your photos, and your girls, are amazing. You are pioneers.

However, at almost every turn you have been nasty to me. Especially on this board, which you seem to visit once a week to do a search for the word "goth". I don't know how it all got started, but clearly we just don't get along.

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Good idea

Yeah looks to be very good entertainment.

hahaha

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Honestly, I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn movies. Pay chick, she has sex, she leaves. How you can say prostitution is morally corrupt while porn is not is beyond me.

Personally, I don't have a problem with either, so I'm not saying porn people are morally bankrupt...just that prostitution is not really below porn on any morality scale.

You said what I didn't feel like typing myself. I have no problem with either myself. It is beyond me how anyone could make a distinction between the two.

FATPad · 07-26-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I dont care about either as well, but to say they are the same is silly.

How is me calling a girl to come over go out with me to dinner, and POSSIBLY fuck me, the same as me watching a porn sdvd?

cmon guys, you people should be smarter than this.
They cannot be the same ;)

Its too early, ill rather watch the rest of you

hahah

What's the difference between prostitution and the filming of a porn movie?

No one said watching a dvd was the same as hiring a prostitute. But making the dvd's is nothing but prostitution.

Saying people who market prostitution on DVD are morally superior to people who market escort services is funny. Both are based on prostitution.

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 08:20 AM

Well since most escorts are prositutes Ill go with you guys.

Hell I live in porn capitol, escort capitol - ever thumbed through a LA paper? LA supplies Vegas with strippers year round that drive there on the weekends or during the week to dance and fuck guys for money. The BUNNY RANCh in Nevada is filled with who? LA porn stars.

hahaha

ESCORTS ARE LA. I didnt say I was against it, I just DO see a difference between the two, if only a subtle one, and remember its only an opinion ;)

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Well since most escorts are prositutes Ill go with you guys.

Hell I live in porn capitol, escort capitol - ever thumbed through a LA paper? LA supplies Vegas with strippers year round that drive there on the weekends or during the week to dance and fuck guys for money. The BUNNY RANCh in Nevada is filled with who? LA porn stars.

hahaha

ESCORTS ARE LA. I didnt say I was against it, I just DO see a difference between the two, if only a subtle one, and remember its only an opinion ;)

But you don't cry about it like a little nancy boy.

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

But you don't cry about it like a little nancy boy.

My only comments on the escort business on this board have been throwaway smartass comments, or responses to EscotBiz raising the subject again.

Scootermuze · 07-26-2003, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Been done before in the US, century ago, didnt work.

History reminds us how often we fail.

Seems to work quite well in Nevada...

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze

Seems to work quite well in Nevada...

Thought he meant more fed controlled legalized prostitution not independent state case. Since it would involve taxes, do you think the Los Angeles girls who go escort in vegas on weekends pay taxes and are regularly tested?

Nope, they are not.

Disease killed it in the past, which would kill the concept again if legalized, that was my point.

TurboAngel · 07-26-2003, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

My only comments on the escort business on this board have been throwaway smartass comments, or responses to EscotBiz raising the subject again.

I told you befor and I will tell you one more time, DO NOT FUCK WITH EscortBiz!

digifan · 07-26-2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Call me crazy, but I hate it when someone I like is so pissed at me that they can't even listen to me. I hate it more when it happens because someone is spreading rumours about me.

Why would I call you crazy? It is understandable.

gothweb · 07-26-2003, 04:47 PM

Oh well. It will be a week before Amelia or Forest does their GFY search for "goth" and sees this thread again. Maybe in the meantime, the girl who contacted me will have calmed down enough for me to talk to her.

Carrie · 07-26-2003, 05:31 PM

Ian I have a problem with you, so here it comes...
You take better pictures than I do!!!
Dammit

quiet · 07-26-2003, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
There is NOTHING wrong with prostitution per se.

In fact, it should be legalized, medically controled, practiced in a safe , secure and exciting enviroment. And naturally pay taxes...

agreed. same thing should happen with drugs as well. Amsterdam is a great place

greentea · 07-26-2003, 05:44 PM

Goth if it means anything, i like ya!

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Goth if it means anything, i like ya!

Why not turn this thread into a dope thread?

got a blunt rolled?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/bigfatnug.jpg border="1">

bigfatnug.jpg

yep thats what it be.

Cheers.

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2003, 05:52 PM

just took that for you greentea.

greentea · 07-26-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Why not turn this thread into a dope thread?

got a blunt rolled?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/bigfatnug.jpg border="1">

bigfatnug.jpg

yep thats what it be.

Cheers.

no blunts or nugs at the moment

hahaha.. Damn fletch those nugs look awfully good right about now! Actually out of nugs, waiting for my ride to come get me so we can pick up some. It will be dutch time real SOON!

load a bowl for me will ya?

07-26-2003, 07:27 AM	#1
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	You have a problem with me, you talk to me. One of my only remaining competitors has apparently been passing on comments I make on this board, without context, to other gothic webmasters. I just got a furious stream of IMs from a webmistress I work with sometimes. Apparently, Amelia G. passed on some of my globill comments to her. From what I can tell based on this girl's rant at me, the comments were given without context and maybe even twisted. Nice, Amelia. Nice. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-26-2003, 07:29 AM	#2
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	It's a dirty business we're in. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

07-26-2003, 07:32 AM	#4
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Everything people talk about me is true __________________ ..and I'm off.

07-26-2003, 07:35 AM	#5
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	Cheer up, man. __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks

07-26-2003, 07:36 AM	#6
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I might as well say it here, since apparently some people think they understand my total position on GloBill based on a few comments I made on GFY... 1.) I think GloBill was a shady business. The idea of looking at new Visa regulations, and then basing their whole business practice on loopholes was just begging for trouble. 2.) I think anyone running a program through GloBill either knew the risks they were getting their webmasters into, or should have. 3.) I think it sucks that a lot of people who run sites, or use globill-based sponsor programs, are screwed. I wish them luck in getting back on their feet with CCBill. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best. Last edited by gothweb; 07-26-2003 at 07:38 AM..

07-26-2003, 07:32 AM	#3
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I heard a rumor that a lot of spookycash affiliates changed their old link codes out to another similar program, since it seems they will not be paid for their sales. ok, to your program hehe

07-26-2003, 07:46 AM	#11
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	hell yeah, let the mudslinging begin...

07-26-2003, 07:47 AM	#12
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	I think you are a good guy __________________

07-26-2003, 07:59 AM	#16
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Please don't bitch about prostitution when most of your aquaintences promote it every fucking day of their lives. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

07-26-2003, 08:08 AM	#26
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Honestly, I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn movies. Pay chick, she has sex, she leaves. How you can say prostitution is morally corrupt while porn is not is beyond me. Personally, I don't have a problem with either, so I'm not saying porn people are morally bankrupt...just that prostitution is not really below porn on any morality scale. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

07-26-2003, 08:10 AM	#29
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,802	There is NOTHING wrong with prostitution per se. In fact, it should be legalized, medically controled, practiced in a safe , secure and exciting enviroment. And naturally pay taxes.... I have a hard time understanding the brain of an adultwebmaster that pays girls or guys to shoot stuff, get cummed on and then looks at prostitution as a disease. I don't have an escort site, I don't promote any ( in fact I don't promote ANY site: I do mine(s)) and don't use services from escort. But I also don't judge others that do. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

07-26-2003, 08:13 AM	#33
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I don't even know where to begin with what is wrong with Amelia's description of past events, so I won't bother. I will just say this... I've always wanted to work with you guys. I think your photos, and your girls, are amazing. You are pioneers. However, at almost every turn you have been nasty to me. Especially on this board, which you seem to visit once a week to do a search for the word "goth". I don't know how it all got started, but clearly we just don't get along. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-26-2003, 08:20 AM	#37
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Well since most escorts are prositutes Ill go with you guys. Hell I live in porn capitol, escort capitol - ever thumbed through a LA paper? LA supplies Vegas with strippers year round that drive there on the weekends or during the week to dance and fuck guys for money. The BUNNY RANCh in Nevada is filled with who? LA porn stars. hahaha ESCORTS ARE LA. I didnt say I was against it, I just DO see a difference between the two, if only a subtle one, and remember its only an opinion ;) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-26-2003, 04:47 PM	#44
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Oh well. It will be a week before Amelia or Forest does their GFY search for "goth" and sees this thread again. Maybe in the meantime, the girl who contacted me will have calmed down enough for me to talk to her. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-26-2003, 05:31 PM	#45
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Ian I have a problem with you, so here it comes... You take better pictures than I do!!! Dammit

07-26-2003, 05:44 PM	#47
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Goth if it means anything, i like ya! __________________ blunts

07-26-2003, 05:52 PM	#49
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	just took that for you greentea. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me