received a second package from *cacia today - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 07-26-2003, 12:51 AM

apparently even more swank than the one i already have (i haven't been able to look at the new one myself yet).

their presentation costs must be going through the roof

TDF · 07-26-2003, 12:52 AM

shocked and flawed

BigFrog · 07-26-2003, 12:53 AM

this fight will make or break them and they know it.

fuckers are going down.

TDF · 07-26-2003, 12:53 AM

btw quiet, im upping you some BVSC..cheers

bhutocracy · 07-26-2003, 12:55 AM

so how exactly are they targeting you given your canadian status?

eroswebmaster · 07-26-2003, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
btw quiet, im upping you some BVD's..cheers

I prefer fruit of the loom.

hybrid · 07-26-2003, 12:57 AM

Bullshit.

theking · 07-26-2003, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
so how exactly are they targeting you given your canadian status?

Good question?

BigFrog · 07-26-2003, 12:57 AM

underwear is for losers....free ballin is the life baby

TDF · 07-26-2003, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

I prefer fruit of the loom.

Theo · 07-26-2003, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
apparently even more swank than the one i already have (i haven't been able to look at the new one myself yet).

their presentation costs must be going through the roof

probably they noticed your new signature

p00p · 07-26-2003, 12:59 AM

That sucks quiet. Keep trudging along, do your thing.....When I get mine, I will do the same. Fuck em.

Mr.Fiction · 07-26-2003, 01:03 AM

quiet, are you going to give in to their tough attempts at bullying now? Two letters must be twice as scary.

I bet they actually thought the adult industry would be a bunch of pussies.

Too bad for them.

quiet · 07-26-2003, 01:03 AM

i'm not really sure. i assume they check high traffic sites like the hun and track down every domain being linked. very easy to do. i was actually one of the first to be contacted, so you've got to laugh at all the hype about Canada being some sort of haven.

Cheers TDF... you mentioned Miles in another thread, I was thinking of uploading some too

Zoe · 07-26-2003, 01:10 AM

They dont have a patent in Canada. So it is a haven. We are a Canadian company and therefore are not breaking any US patent laws.

On top of that......Canada does not have a patent treaty with the US. You will find that is so "in the package".

bhutocracy · 07-26-2003, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm not really sure. i assume they check high traffic sites like the hun and track down every domain being linked. very easy to do. i was actually one of the first to be contacted, so you've got to laugh at all the hype about Canada being some sort of haven.

Cheers TDF... you mentioned Miles in another thread, I was thinking of uploading some too

it's strange... I mean are they just hoping that people that don't need to sign up do so because they aren't aware they have no patent in that particular country? I find this to be a confusing issue, but it fits in with their modus operandi.

quiet · 07-26-2003, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoe
They dont have a patent in Canada. So it is a haven. We are a Canadian company and therefore are not breaking any US patent laws.

On top of that......Canada does not have a patent treaty with the US. You will find that is so "in the package".

do you process in the US? if you aren't a paysite, do you use a US sponsor for your income? Do you host in the US? Do you do traffic deals in the US (or any country that they do hold a patent in)?

lol

unless you are some sort of floating entity, they will get you where it hurts (if they are allowed to win).

bhutocracy · 07-26-2003, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

do you process in the US? if you aren't a paysite, do you use a US sponsor for your income? Do you host in the US? Do you do traffic deals in the US (or any country that they do hold a patent in)?

lol

unless you are some sort of floating entity, they will get you where it hurts (if they are allowed to win).

promoting a US sponsor that isn't doing anything illegal in your own locale isn't a canadian's problem. It's like saying the hun is liable for the beast stuff he promotes because it's illegal in the US.. not so - it's ok for the netherlands.

the only thing i think they could get you on would be hosting. don't get me wrong im not saying they're not bloody minded enough to try get you on everything but most people should be able to swat the rest of it down pretty easily. Don't take this as downplaying the threat, just trying to rationalise the situation.

quiet · 07-26-2003, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
promoting a US sponsor that isn't doing anything illegal in your own locale isn't a canadian's problem. It's like saying the hun is liable for the beast stuff he promotes because it's illegal in the US.. not so - it's ok for the netherlands.

uh, how are you promoting the sponsor? through text?

if you are using video to push a US sponsor, you have a problem.

talk to a laywer.

KC · 07-26-2003, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm not really sure. i assume they check high traffic sites like the hun and track down every domain being linked. very easy to do. i was actually one of the first to be contacted...

I doubt posting screen caps of ibill earnings helped keep them away!!

quiet · 07-26-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by KC

I doubt posting screen caps of ibill earnings helped keep them away!!

or worse, having your site linked just below every single post you make!

goBigtime · 07-26-2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

I doubt posting screen caps of ibill earnings helped keep them away!!

Photoshopped!

bhutocracy · 07-26-2003, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

uh, how are you promoting the sponsor? through text?

if you are using video to push a US sponsor, you have a problem.

talk to a laywer.

im not doing that - as a hypothetical though, I don't see how it would make you liable. I looked into patenting a product, nothing to do with the internet and this situation, but you're basically pretty screwed if someone in an area not covered by the patent is pushing it. You can go after someone in your legal duristriction and try and stop them from infringing on it, but some barely affiliated third party in thailand pushing the product the infringing company created?? maybe I wasn't approaching it from the stance of having millions of dollars to waste scaring people..

bhutocracy · 07-26-2003, 01:45 AM

*sigh*.. maybe it is time to talk to a lawyer about what we can and can't do as foreign entities.

Matt_WildCash · 07-26-2003, 04:25 AM

Servers are certainly located inside the USA therefore you can't break patents inside the USA. Its like that beastiality is legal in the Neatherlands but you sure don't see any beast sites hosted in the US now do you??

Gunni · 07-26-2003, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
Servers are certainly located inside the USA therefore you can't break patents inside the USA. Its like that beastiality is legal in the Neatherlands but you sure don't see any beast sites hosted in the US now do you??

Sure you do. Bestiality isn't actually illegal in most states!

Paul Markham · 07-26-2003, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoe
They dont have a patent in Canada. So it is a haven. We are a Canadian company and therefore are not breaking any US patent laws.

On top of that......Canada does not have a patent treaty with the US. You will find that is so "in the package".

This could be the mistke they made, there must be international laws governing the restriction of free trade. Do they have the right to stop non US companies trading, if they are not based in the STates, hosted in the States or money is processed in the States can they legally stop us?

If a US webmaster buys from us who is breaking the law him or us?

ADL Colin · 07-26-2003, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni

Sure you do. Bestiality isn't actually illegal in most states!

Those states just prosecute you on charges of animal cruelty instead. PETA is after you ;-)

Krome · 07-26-2003, 05:34 AM

All the money Fantasy Man is giving them is paying for those nices packages.

VeriSexy · 07-26-2003, 05:41 AM

"Acacia also recently entered into License and Settlement Agreements with adult content providers Babenet Ltd. and White Sands Communications Inc., bringing the total number of licensees of Acacia's DMT technology to twenty seven (27)."

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030716/165180_1.html

What now? Use another format? Quicktime, Real audio vivo or do they have rights to anything that streams?

chodadog · 07-26-2003, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
All the money Fantasy Man is giving them is paying for those nices packages.

And all the money he's giving the IMPA is going to help bring them down.

07-26-2003, 12:51 AM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	*received a second package from cacia today** apparently even more swank than the one i already have (i haven't been able to look at the new one myself yet). their presentation costs must be going through the roof __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

07-26-2003, 12:52 AM	#2
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	shocked and flawed __________________ Sig heil

07-26-2003, 12:53 AM	#4
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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	quiet, are you going to give in to their tough attempts at bullying now? Two letters must be twice as scary. I bet they actually thought the adult industry would be a bunch of pussies. Too bad for them. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	so how exactly are they targeting you given your canadian status?

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Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Servers are certainly located inside the USA therefore you can't break patents inside the USA. Its like that beastiality is legal in the Neatherlands but you sure don't see any beast sites hosted in the US now do you??

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