candidpublishinginc:

Offshore's do respect copyright laws in so far if you sit and watch the lastest movie on local TV, they don't even take the "Report copies to the FBI" shit off the tapes! :1orglaugh

However, Acacia can try and wait 10 years for it to come to court - but hell, the courts are too busy to listen to that shit, hence the 10 year waiting time!

We are offshore and the last thing we are thinking about is some US corp and their claim to rights!

From what I read, the reason why offshore jursdictions are good for patent lawsuit protection and the like is that it is quite expensive to file a suit there.

Furthermore although I can understand the need for any offshore jurisdiction to recognize international copyright law, is it required to recognize U.S. patent law?

candidpublishinginc:

I can see that they will certainly not give priority to court time on this. But they "usually" recognize international copyright laws. I am not sure if there is some tie with U.S Patent law within this.

No.. this has no hope in hell of being easy - the cost is silly, - it is a criminal offence to divulge the benefical owner of an offshore unless by court order on the basis of money laundering or drug dealing. Any offshore's where we are incorporated would not issue an order on the basis of some copyright/patent infringement allegation.

There was an instance of a $15million fraud case committed in another country. This country sent a team of law enforcement officers and lawyers to hopefully extradict the alledged perpitrator. They failed and went home. :winkwink:

I don't think this is the case with patent law, but I may be wrong.

International copyright law covers the bare minimum of copyright. Plus patents and trademarks are sort of a seperate category over a traditional copyright.

Anyway thanks for the info!

From a dumb point of view. If you are using server managed by 3rd party, personally you aren't sending anything, you don't own anything. You are legally using 3rd party services - who should be liable for patent infrigement then?

As was mentioned on D$'s show the other night...

The contract is based on patent infringement, so if the courts decide there is no infringement taking place, then the contract would be void in its entirety.. but you'd probably have to take it to court again to get them off of your back, but.. this then becomes 'contract law'.

They've thrown that little clause in there to make it as hard as they can on people to get matters cleared up..

If one issue gets thrown out.. ya now have to go get yet another bit of nonsense thrown out.
This could very well be construed as harrassment..

The real sad fact here is that America is such a litigious society and it is easy to sue anyone all you need is some money.

I still believe that if you serve MPG files you will have a better chance of getting out of a suit thrown at you by Acadia then if you serve WMV or ASF or other Real files.

I think that if I my lawyer told a judge, explained him the difference between the files and how MPG does not need a streaming server, the judge would throw the thing out of court.

Moral of the story?

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There's some trustworthy legal advice.

MPG's are okay. I sell MPG's. If you buy my MPG's you won't be sued by Acacia, because I have a feeling that my lawyer will talk to the judge and he will throw everything out.

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I believe that MPG thing to be true..


Hey FatPud, Did SCORE group fire you? You dont have their sig anymore.

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Never worked for them, so I guess the answer is no, they didn't fire me. Why? You seem to be obsessed with thinking I work for them, so maybe you want a job there?

Since you're making claims that your MPG's are free from Acacia's patent claims, will you be reimbursing people for their legal fees who buy your MPG's and get sued by Acacia?

A system of distributing video and/or audio information employs digital signal processing to achieve high rates of data compression. The compressed and encoded audio and/or video information is sent over standard telephone, cable or satellite broadcast channels to a receiver specified by a subscriber of the service, preferably in less than real time, for later playback and optional recording on standard audio and/or video tape.

Sounds like MPEG to me!

FatPad,

I am just suggesting, that if you use and follow logic, and understand the difference between the file types, you will be lead to an answer or final decision that is more postive than if you were serving a streaming file such as wmv, asf, or real.

I am not asserting any certainty here becuase with the law there never is. I am only suggesting that you will be better off, and perhaps even out of trouble all together.

acacia has never made a profit from what i can see, this is their one big chance to actually make some money rather than just spend it.. sure it might be mostly bullshit, but a lot of people make a lot of money bringing bullshit to a court room. (no)

You really aren't too bright are you?

This thread is too funny.

I hope this is not the start again of the daily "create some controversary so I can spam my content" threads from sobe.

Your legal prowess here sobe only makes what you said before about your model releases that more convincing.

My lawyer told me somthing the other day I found interesting.


He said, " Nobody makes money just suing people all the time."

Have a good day.

Brisk,

I was going to quote that exact passage. Points to you for actually READING. Something other people just didn't do.

Maybe I should not bag on you sobe for spamming so hard if the end result is good discussion like that. That one was worth alot more than 2 cents .

Finally something we agree on Scoreman.

So what do you think?

Are they doing just that? Just pushing ahead and suing everyone?

If my lawyers logic is correct, then we all have nothing to worry about.

They will one day just run out of steam and go away?

Like a lot of dot coms?

Is that what you are saying?

Are we agreeing that you are spamming your goods under the guise of controversary?

Acacia is not going away. They have millions in their warchest and 14 total employees. (more proof that they innovate nothing and litigate everything). Take a look at their last filings with the SEC. $49 million in cash in the bank and they are burning about $6 million per quarter on revenues of $222,000.00. Acacia releases their next quarter earnings next Tuesday after the market closes. It will be interesting to see how things are changing in their financials.

Stepping away from the legal issues, I find it difficult to believe that the shareholders of ACTG will let them continue to burn $24 million per year with only $49 million in the cash. Granted they have lines of credit and might even do another stock offering, but logically it would seem that Acacia will have to start generating some income here or face shareholder revolt. Of course this all assumes their costs will remain as high, which is unlikely since marketing costs were $4.2 million this past quarter. Those fancy packages they sent out didnt come cheap it seems, but this cost is not ongoing. It they were to funnel the majority of their cash into just litigation, the industry has a tough fight ahead.

Acacia loses this first case against the first 10 porn defendants it's over. Their stock is in the shitter now, if they lose they'll have other things to worry about - like getting hunted down by their irate shareholders.

How long are they predicting this case will take to be heard? How long do judges usually take to make a decision in patent cases? weeks? months?

Sobegirl: Who are you getting your legal advice from? Your cousin Vinny?

"If my lawyers logic is correct, then we all have nothing to worry about.

They will one day just run out of steam and go away"

Did your attorney advise you not to respond to Acacia too?

I think Sobe would argue the earth is flat and Elvis is still alive if it would get thread views on his content sale offers. He hasn't seen a lawyer on this Far-L.

Hey Sobe,

You may want to talk to your patent attorney, I think he lied to you considering British Telecom owns the Hyperlink Patent already. :winkwink:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...perlink+patent

Fortunately, trying to enforce this patent hasn't gone so well for them up to this point.

acacia went from a 23mil dollar company to and 800thou company. i am probably pulling at air here BUT think about this, they got sued for stealing another company's patent and they lost. they lost their v chip suit; maybe, just maybe they are trying to find a way to bankrupt themselves without bring any unnecessary attention brought to their books. suing on this patent may be just a way for them to lose graciously and bale out.

again, i am pulling at air but it is something to think about. if a company has such solid footing for a lawsuit like this, then there would be no logical reason in the world why they wouldn't hit the larger companies. that whole pick on the small guy is starting to sound fishy if you put the effort into reading about them.

Your lawyer lied.

Of course, the way you conduct business, I highly doubt you have a lawyer in the first place.

:2 cents:

AARON, he is a lawyer remember, and Mr Movie is his assistannt

Eh...Whatever. No self respecting lawyer would get wrapped up in the childish bullshit that goes on with these boards. I can't believe I have not grown up past it yet myself. Maybe someday.

Sobe you previously told me that YOU are a lawyer...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh [you weren't fibbing were you?]

So is this YOUR advice???

Or perhaps the advice of Mr Movie, your lawyer
and salesman in training? :Graucho

Groove... SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MrMovie is SOBE.......SOBE is Movie

He just dont realize.. Dont disturb the disturbed.

acacia is about extorsion, not legality.

They live off the COWARDS that poop their pants and pay them protection money hoping to avoid a lawsuit.

they will loose in court.

i forgot to add their little venture capital deal that went bad. if you add all this up, financially they are in some serious trouble for the are more high risk then any porn site out there.

this may be their last attempt at strumming up some money.

food for thought.

You're getting warmer, keep going...

You guys can do what you want. When Acadia comes to me I am going to say that I serve only MPG. That is my defense and I think it is a good one.

Help please. I never got any feed back on my new free feed.

http://www.sobecams.com/free

What do you think? It is totally free. has only one link out, no poop ups. Free, no catch.

So what do you think?

Anyone that buys from Sobe is asking for trouble. Some of his statements definitely make you wonder whether or not his paperwork is in order.

It will just be another lawsuit on the pile I suppose.

All of SoBeGirl Paper work is in order. Anyone can ask to see any photo ID or model release form anytime. I will send it to any one of my buyers. Never had a problem so far.


Here is the thread http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=SlyRJ

OHHH BOOBIESS OHHH BOY ! Anyone who pays attention to a dork like Sly_RJ with posts like that needs his head examined.

Yeah but can you prove you have the right to resell those scenes at $5 ea, ...uhhh NOPE....., and next week a court will rule in my favor and you will be SO BE FUCKED.