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Old 07-22-2003, 11:28 AM   #1
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The US is not the world's police

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July 21 ? Angry Liberians thronged the U.S. Embassy and demanded to know when U.S. troops would arrive to help them. Michael Davie of "National Geographic Explorer" reports for NBC News.
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I think we have a duty to ignore such conflicts like this from now on. Too many people will cry if we go to Liberia. Let them fucking bleed.

And you too. Don't like the US? Fine. Fuck off. Tend to your own goddamned problems and we won't have to.
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people trash the usa, but when they need help come begging, and then after we help they go back to hating us.
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Yet another attempt at letting negroes govern themselves goes down in flames. When will we learn?

Next: South Africa
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The US should only worry about our own house for now.

Let all these punk ass nations that cant figure out their problems just fall apart, life is survival of the fittest, not a nicest person contest.

This is how the herd is thinned, its natural selection at work.

The US needs to just let shit slide all over the world so those that hate us for no reason can then realize when there is no rice pallets dropping from the sky, maybe we arent that bad after all.

As our troops sit here and chill out and save some $$$ for future stuff instead of spending it all out now.
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Yet another attempt at letting negroes govern themselves goes down in flames. When will we learn?

Next: South Africa

Jeez, a little race comment there huh. Anyway if they want help thats fine , as long as we get some of there land for a few army bases.
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Liberian rebels said Tuesday they had ordered their forces to halt a blistering onslaught on the capital, Monrovia, and a top government soldier said the insurgents were being driven back. The statement came amid several days of fierce fighting that has claimed hundreds of civilian lives, prompting urgent calls for U.S.-led international peacekeeping forces to quell the chaos. Despite a situation described as ?horrific? by the U.N. refugee agency, the United States has not agreed to intervene, saying the initiative should be headed by West African nations.
Isn't that what the UN is for? The US is about war, not peace. Don't call us. Call the Almighty UN.
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My only concern is that there will be a rash of small skirmishes of this type breaking out where ever Al quida is. Our forces will get spread thin and then BLAMMO! More domestic problems than we can humanly manage...
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Let all these punk ass nations that cant figure out their problems just fall apart, life is survival of the fittest, not a nicest person contest.

This is how the herd is thinned, its natural selection at work.

I love how this phrase "how the herd is thinned" is becomming so popular on gfy.

Africa is an example of "survival of the fittest"?
How about an example of "survival of the best armed!"?
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I think we have a duty to ignore such conflicts like this from now on. Too many people will cry if we go to Liberia. Let them fucking bleed.

I have to admit that I'm torn about whether or not we should send troops. If it would be like for a few weeks to protect and evacuate citizens and then replaced by the U.N., I think I would agree with that type of plan. But it has to have a clear exit plan in place.

And finally, the U.S. & the rest of the world has certainly turned a blind eye for the most part to Africa, that is suffering in many different ways from war to famine to disease.
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I think we have a duty to ignore such conflicts like this from now on. Too many people will cry if we go to Liberia. Let them fucking bleed.

And you too. Don't like the US? Fine. Fuck off. Tend to your own goddamned problems and we won't have to.
Maybe we can fix some of the problems within our own country? Does this make sense?
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I have to admit that I'm torn about whether or not we should send troops. If it would be like for a few weeks to protect and evacuate citizens and then replaced by the U.N., I think I would agree with that type of plan. But it has to have a clear exit plan in place.

And finally, the U.S. & the rest of the world has certainly turned a blind eye for the most part to Africa, that is suffering in many different ways from war to famine to disease.
fuck that.... everytime we do anything, someone is fucking crying about it. Let someone else pick up the slack for a change. How about Finland.... or maybe France... how about Saudi Arabia, they fucking owe us a few favors.... maybe Sweden can go in and clean up the mess this time...

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Yet another attempt at letting negroes govern themselves goes down in flames. When will we learn?

Next: South Africa
Pfff.. Gutterboy, every time you post here you show the world how stupid you are. STFU and go burn in hell you son of a bitch.
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The US should only worry about our own house for now.

Let all these punk ass nations that cant figure out their problems just fall apart, life is survival of the fittest, not a nicest person contest.

This is how the herd is thinned, its natural selection at work.

The US needs to just let shit slide all over the world so those that hate us for no reason can then realize when there is no rice pallets dropping from the sky, maybe we arent that bad after all.

As our troops sit here and chill out and save some $$$ for future stuff instead of spending it all out now.
definitely, America is everywhere, they should worry about themselves first.
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fuck that.... everytime we do anything, someone is fucking crying about it. Let someone else pick up the slack for a change. How about Finland.... or maybe France... how about Saudi Arabia, they fucking owe us a few favors.... maybe Sweden can go in and clean up the mess this time...

any volunteers?

agreed...

everyone hates the US until they are in need of help and rescue... then it changes to .. why didnt the US do something before it got out of hand.. can't win either way....

as an American.. I like the fact that we can travel to most any country in the world.. but this has been made possible by many years of hard work and nations working together... turning our back and taking care of our own house would be great for our current pocketbook... but it would not be a wise move for the future of world peace.

I say send the Canadians and French.
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fuck that.... everytime we do anything, someone is fucking crying about it. Let someone else pick up the slack for a change. How about Finland.... or maybe France... how about Saudi Arabia, they fucking owe us a few favors.... maybe Sweden can go in and clean up the mess this time...

any volunteers?
Would you go along with it if the forces were under U.N. mandate?
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Pfff.. Gutterboy, every time you post here you show the world how stupid you are. STFU and go burn in hell you son of a bitch.


4 words: Post apartheid South Africa

Don't hear a whole lot in the media about SA's crime rates and economy anymore.. gee, I wonder why? Maybe because Apartheid ain't looking too bad right about now.

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No one asked the U.S. to go into Iraq. In fact, the world told the U.S. not to because it would turn into a big mess, which it has. Rush may have told you they wanted our "help", but Rush has a little problem with the truth.
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Would you go along with it if the forces were under U.N. mandate?
Nope... I'm taking Canada's position from now on. Fuck 'em. Leave us out of it. Let the fucking French do something for a change.
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agreed...

everyone hates the US until they are in need of help and rescue... then it changes to .. why didnt the US do something before it got out of hand.. can't win either way....

as an American.. I like the fact that we can travel to most any country in the world.. but this has been made possible by many years of hard work and nations working together... turning our back and taking care of our own house would be great for our current pocketbook... but it would not be a wise move for the future of world peace.

I say send the Canadians and French.
I agree send the french, regardless what america does we always have someone crying and protesting, yet when we liberate someone else's ass, and we need their help(ex FRANCE NOT suppoting us in the Iraq conflict) they turn their back on us,
I think if we stop helping other countrie they will be hurting. Travel much of the world, where ever I have been seen many people worshiping AMERICAN PRODUCTS, levis, foods, and even the way the good old american girl looks?!!! Yet they still bad mouth us.
REGARDLESS this is the BEST nation in the world!
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Nope... I'm taking Canada's position from now on. Fuck 'em. Leave us out of it. Let the fucking French do something for a change.
So then you are in agreement that since we are not the world's policeman, then let's get the troops out of Iraq since they don't belong there either?
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yep, only way Bush would "help" on this matter was is slavery existed again or in last resort to "clean their global image" (which by the looks of things will be needed in a near future..)
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Nope... I'm taking Canada's position from now on. Fuck 'em. Leave us out of it. Let the fucking French do something for a change.
I knew you'd come around sooner or later
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So then you are in agreement that since we are not the world's policeman, then let's get the troops out of Iraq since they don't belong there either?
Too late for that... can't just leave it in ruins. Someone would cry about that too. We'll unfortunately have to clean up Iraq. (and someone will also cry about that)

but that's it.... from there on, I say we take care of number one and fuck everyone else. Fucking whiner countries want the US out of everything, well cool... let them slaughter and butcher each other. Let Liberia go down in anarchy. Don't ask for help... don't ask for shit. Not a mutherfucking thing. We're fully capable of taking care of ourselves. I say it's time we see how capable everyone else is.
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So then you are in agreement that since we are not the world's policeman, then let's get the troops out of Iraq since they don't belong there either?
Canada along with the British and Americans saved the French's ass, time to let the french do something for other countries, remember Hitler actually went to Paris and put the German flag on their eiffel Tower.....it's no longer there b.c of those 3 nations!!! I don't have anything agaisnt the French, just that a little Army liek Poland tried to fight off the Nazis, yet the French got their butts kicked by them, and their Army was bigger!!!
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Nope... I'm taking Canada's position from now on. Fuck 'em. Leave us out of it. Let the fucking French do something for a change.
So few words and so many stupidities...

1) Canada said it would commit troops to Iraq underr a UN manadate. We have troops in Afghanistan. In fact, I think it is our turn at managing that shit.

2) French troops are heavily involved in peace keeping in Congo. Britts are in Sierra Leone. Both countries are neighboor to Liberia.

PS: why did Bush go to Africa?
ever seen the Liberia flag?? Any ressemblance.


When are you leaving Iraq then to conform to your new position...

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maybe the UN should have sent tanks into flordia when there was a conflict about the polls there on the last presidential election.....
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So then you are in agreement that since we are not the world's policeman, then let's get the troops out of Iraq since they don't belong there either?
Amp is right here. I don't think we should have done it in the first place, but now that we have, we can't just leave the poor schmucks hanging with little infrastructure and a power vacuum.

Human nature abhors a vacuum in much the same way nature does, except that human nature always seems to fill it in the worst possible way.
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Is it still the rest of the world's problem if it's an American colony?

"1815- African-American Quaker and maritime entrepreneur Paul Cuffee (or Cuffe) financed and captained a successful voyage to Sierra Leone where he helped a small group of African-American immigrants establish themselves. Cuffee believed that African Americans could more easily "rise to be a people" in Africa than in America with its system of slavery and its legislated limits on black freedom. Cuffee also envisioned a black trade network organized by Westernized blacks who would return to Africa to develop its resources while educating its people in the skills they had gained during captivity. Cuffee died in 1817 without fully realizing his dream."

"1821-The American Colonization Society (ACS) dispatched a representative, Dr. Eli Ayres, to purchase land farther north up the coast from Sierra Leone. With the aid of a U.S. naval officer, Lieutenant Robert F. Stockton, Ayres cruised the coastal waters west of Grand Bassa seeking out appropriate lands for the colony. Stockton took charge of the negotiations with leaders of the Dey and Bassa peoples who lived in the area of Cape Mesurado. At first, the local leaders were reluctant to surrender their peoples' land to the strangers, but were forcefully persuaded -- some accounts say at gun-point -- to part with a "36 mile long and 3 mile wide" strip of coastal land for trade goods, supplies, weapons, and rum worth approximately $300. See "The fourth annual report of the American Society for Colonizing the Free People of Color of the United States: with an appendix.""

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Didn't Britain do its best to make sure Hong Kong was all settled and totally ready for autonomy before they let it fly on its own sovereign wings?

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So few words and so many stupidities...

1) Canada said it would commit troops to Iraq underr a UN manadate. We have troops in Afghanistan. In fact, I think it is our turn at managing that shit.

2) French troops are heavily involved in peace keeping in Congo. Britts are in Sierra Leone. Both countries are neighboor to Liberia.

PS: why did Bush go to Africa?
ever seen the Liberia flag?? Any ressemblance.


When are you leaving Iraq then to conform to your new position...

what is Quebec doing these days? Still busy trying to secede from the rest of Canada? And where will be the first place Quebec goes to offer assistance?

yeah...

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ABIDJAN, Ivory Coast (CNN) -- French troops are arriving in the Ivory Coast as a deadly rebellion continues to destabilise the west African country, according to a journalist in the region.

PS: no oil there....

US interested only in Niger ( gor the ex Mrs Rice oil company, Gulf)...
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what is Quebec doing these days? Still busy trying to secede from the rest of Canada? And where will be the first place Quebec goes to offer assistance?

yeah...

right.
So can't say much about french trrops, so know it is Quebec.

You really are a bitter asshole. BTW, we are doing fine, had real elections that were won by a liberal ( federalist) government, and as civilized people, business continus as usual.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:08 PM   #38
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So can't say much about french trrops, so know it is Quebec.

You really are a bitter asshole. BTW, we are doing fine, had real elections that were won by a liberal ( federalist) government, and as civilized people, business continus as usual.
Do you still allow the import of unpasturized cheeses?

I have a lawyer friend who threatened to send his $5000 (ca) political donations to the other party over that issue in BC.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:10 PM   #39
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So can't say much about french trrops, so know it is Quebec.

You really are a bitter asshole. BTW, we are doing fine, had real elections that were won by a liberal ( federalist) government, and as civilized people, business continus as usual.
France's history speaks for itself... nothing I say can make them look any worse than it already is.

Keep sucking French cock... maybe one day Quebec will get their wish and Canada will be free of you assholes.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:14 PM   #40
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Keep sucking French cock... maybe one day Quebec will get their wish and Canada will be free of you assholes.
Obviously, you lack much of an education.... Canada doesn't want to let us go.... not the other way around...

Like in Iraq: Iraqis don;t want you there, not the other way roung...

If thew US would of conducted themselves by international law and the UN , this would have been true:

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French president calls on troops to be prepared in case of war in Iraq

Brits to call-up reservists

PARIS (AP) - Alluding to a possible war with Iraq, French President Jacques Chirac on Tuesday called on French troops to be ready for deployment.

"To be prepared is at the heart of the soldier's job," Chirac said during annual New Year's wishes to the armed forces. "Particularly, we have to be attentive to the way in which United Nations Security Council resolution 1441 is applied by Iraq." Chirac said there was reason to believe that French forces will continue to be needed in certain "operational theatres," a reference to Ivory Coast, where more than 2,000 French troops are currently engaged.

However, he added that, "alas, other (theatres) could open up," a clear reference to Iraq.

It was the clearest suggestion so far that France would participate in a military operation in Iraq.

Paris has been opposed from the beginning to unilateral U.S. action in Iraq and has demanded that Washington get UN Security Council approval before sending in the troops.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...7/9622-ap.html
So get on your horse and go scalp a few Indians... You really are dumb, so you will probably spew out another stupid statment.

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Old 07-22-2003, 01:14 PM   #41
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maybe the UN should have sent tanks into flordia when there was a conflict about the polls there on the last presidential election.....
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:15 PM   #42
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The good ol' US of A...

Damned if you do...

Damned if you don't!

It all kind of reminds me of college kids...

oh yeah off spending mom's and dad's money...

ignoring their parents' wishes and shit until they need to do laundry or pay for tuition...

making a phone call only when its in their own best interest...

and then their brothers and sisters bitch when they hear mom and dad sent extra money...
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:21 PM   #43
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Canada doesn't want to let us go.... not the other way around...
Mostly I think they simply don't want to give Quebec the satisfaction. But virtually every Canadian I've ever met and/or talked to can't stand Quebec or it's people. Mostly they'd just like you to either shut the fuck up or get it over with, secede already, and be gone.

Been to Quebec plenty myself, and I can't say I blame them. Absurdly arrogant and unfriendly people.... and even more so toward other Canadians that aren't from Quebec.

I've been all over Canada, and Quebec is the only place I'm damn sure I won't ever be going back to. The rest of Canada was great.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:23 PM   #44
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F IRAQ _ So GLAD to hear Saddams sons ar enow dead, hopefully they capture his ass and Bin Laden's ass put them both in a cage in the middle of NYC, and charge $5 bucks to piss on them. I would be the first on line!

IRAN YOUR NEXT!
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F IRAQ _ So GLAD to hear Saddams sons ar enow dead, hopefully they capture his ass and Bin Laden's ass put them both in a cage in the middle of NYC, and charge $5 bucks to piss on them. I would be the first on line!

IRAN YOUR NEXT!
Layoff Iran idiot...

their college students will probably take care of their present government within the next 1-5 years...

edit: Summer time, no school, i can't fuckin' spell!
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:28 PM   #46
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Layoff Iran idoit...

their college students will probably take care of their present government within the next 1-5 years...
I will lay off Iran no problem but if you call me an idiot next time spell it correctly ;)
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I will lay off Iran no problem but if you call me an idiot next time spell it correctly ;)
note taken will do
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I've been all over Canada, and Quebec is the only place I'm damn sure I won't ever be going back to. The rest of Canada was great.

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Ignorance about Quebec is in very large supply in the rest of the continent. Ignorance, outdated views, prejudice...

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Amp is right here. I don't think we should have done it in the first place, but now that we have, we can't just leave the poor schmucks hanging with little infrastructure and a power vacuum.

Human nature abhors a vacuum in much the same way nature does, except that human nature always seems to fill it in the worst possible way.
Why not?

If the reasoning is that all these people (Including and especially the Iraqi's) are ungreatful bastards, why should we stay in a country where we're not liked, not wanted, and shot at?

Pretty damn hypocritical to say on one hand that we're NOT the world's policeman, but yet keep 140,000 troops in a country that offers no threat to our security.

You can't have it both ways. We don't give a fuck about them really do we? Isn't this survival of the "fittest" and nature's way of "thinning the herd"? Then get the troops out and let the mofos kill off each other instead of American soldiers.

I'm just backing up your "We're not the world's policeman" reasoning to the hilt!
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Why not?

If the reasoning is that all these people (Including and especially the Iraqi's) are ungreatful bastards, why should we stay in a country where we're not liked, not wanted, and shot at?

Pretty damn hypocritical to say on one hand that we're NOT the world's policeman, but yet keep 140,000 troops in a country that offers no threat to our security.

You can't have it both ways. We don't give a fuck about them really do we? Isn't this survival of the "fittest" and nature's way of "thinning the herd"? Then get the troops out and let the mofos kill off each other instead of American soldiers.

I'm just backing up your "We're not the world's policeman" reasoning to the hilt!
oh don't get me wrong... I fully agree. We SHOULD pull out of there and let them destroy themselves. It'd probly only take a few weeks for them to completely annihilate each other anyway. But the ensuing crying from countries like France would be unbearable. If you listen carefully, you can almost hear the sniffling mounting...
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