acacia & the federal trade commission - GoFuckYourself.com

stevo · 07-23-2003, 12:48 PM

From: http://www.extremetech.com/print_art...a=34898,00.asp

Acacia reportedly began laying out its intellectual-property strategy in May 2002, which appears remarkably similar to the path taken by memory technology company Rambus Inc., which convinced smaller memory firms to license its technology. Rambus' progress was essentially stopped short by larger firms, who exposed some of the company's legally questionable business practices and prompted an FTC investigation.

Should we complain to the FTC?
If everyone complains im sure they'd take alook at it, but is this a good idea or not?

FTC Consumer Complaint Form:
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

sandman! · 07-23-2003, 01:41 PM

Good idea

Dax · 07-23-2003, 01:45 PM

Good idea... specially if u get some mainstream companies complaining.

p00p · 07-23-2003, 01:49 PM

Great idea. What do you have to lose?

funkmaster · 07-23-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p
Great idea. What do you have to lose?

... errr, could you please wait another 6 month, cause I just bought some shares today.

Mr.Fiction · 07-23-2003, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevo
exposed some of the company's legally questionable business practices and prompted an FTC investigation

FTC Consumer Complaint Form:
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.s..._ORG_CODE=PU01

Once again, being offensive instead of defensive paid off.

magicmike · 07-23-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Good idea... specially if u get some mainstream companies complaining.

What about the radio and other streaming type providers that are non adult that have been hit up by acacia?

Where do they bitch about acacia, lets go let em know

playa · 07-23-2003, 03:31 PM

Thats a good idea,

I know for a fact if the FTC gets massive amounts of complaints at a certain period of time they take action really fast

LadyMischief · 07-23-2003, 03:33 PM

They would also have a monopoly wouldn't they? I would love to see them try to enforce their patents against some of the goverment/military insititutions useing "their" technology. We could be looking at the next microsoft anti-trust suit.

These fuckers deserve to burn.

stevo · 07-23-2003, 03:50 PM

A pretty big monopoly. According to their patent, they pretty much own the internet. I wonder if theyre going after Kazaa and other forms of file transfers.

From a cool article i read:
Acacia's claims, they are asserting that they own the rights to two basic ideas:

1) Media (video, audio, images, text, etc.) stored in one location, encoded and transmitted digitally over some medium (telephone, cable TV, broadcast, etc.), and then decoded and reproduced at one or more other locations. This covers not just the transmission of online porn over the net, but also downloading and playing mp3 files, reading webpages, watching digital TV (whether over cable, satellite, or broadcast), sending faxes, using answering machines or services, baby monitors (if they buffer and encode video and/or audio digitally), pagers, etc.

2) A user at one location selecting media that is stored at a remote location for transmission to the user's location. If you've ever viewed a website (ooops, too late for you already) or logged onto a remote computer, you've used "technology" that Acacia claims is theirs and you are liable for royalty payments.

JMM · 07-23-2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
They would also have a monopoly wouldn't they? I would love to see them try to enforce their patents against some of the goverment/military insititutions useing "their" technology. We could be looking at the next microsoft anti-trust suit.

These fuckers deserve to burn.

A patent, by definition, is a government issued monopoly.

QualityMpegs · 07-23-2003, 03:52 PM

Got my pretty purple Acacia packet today and plan on making a nice complaint to the FTC...any ideas on what exactly to say to them so they'll take us seriously?

stevo · 07-23-2003, 03:55 PM

Just link to a GFY thread, that should be pretty reputable.

QualityMpegs · 07-23-2003, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevo
Just link to a GFY thread, that should be pretty reputable.

smart thinking...

imageman · 07-23-2003, 04:38 PM

I am starting a small claims action first thing tomorrow then i will follow up with an official complaint from our companies attorneys to the FTC. Also sending a donation to Spike at HomeGrown Video to help the cause

I will be contacting as many webmasters as possible to get them to do the same thing. One way or another these assholes are going down.

johnny5 · 07-23-2003, 05:03 PM

if we all take them to court at the same time they wont be able to show and they will lose->

Fabuleux · 07-23-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
They would also have a monopoly wouldn't they? I would love to see them try to enforce their patents against some of the goverment/military insititutions useing "their" technology. We could be looking at the next microsoft anti-trust suit.

These fuckers deserve to burn.

Monopoly... hmmm, The judges in Europe will NEVER allow that

Greg B · 07-23-2003, 05:19 PM

NOW you guys are catching on!

Serge_Oprano · 07-23-2003, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Once again, being offensive instead of defensive paid off.

bingo!

that's what I call
THINK OUT OF THE BOX!
;-)))

Zoe · 07-23-2003, 05:32 PM

They tried filing here in Canada.......but the patent office here could see through it like clean glass. And they did not get a patent.

I am sure that in time.....the US Patent office will overturn the patent.

FlyingIguana · 07-23-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... errr, could you please wait another 6 month, cause I just bought some shares today.

considering how well find what has done i'm sure you can eat the losses heh

07-23-2003, 12:48 PM	#1
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	acacia & the federal trade commission From: http://www.extremetech.com/print_art...a=34898,00.asp Acacia reportedly began laying out its intellectual-property strategy in May 2002, which appears remarkably similar to the path taken by memory technology company Rambus Inc., which convinced smaller memory firms to license its technology. Rambus' progress was essentially stopped short by larger firms, who exposed some of the company's legally questionable business practices and prompted an FTC investigation. Should we complain to the FTC? If everyone complains im sure they'd take alook at it, but is this a good idea or not? FTC Consumer Complaint Form: https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

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sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,432	Good idea

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Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Good idea... specially if u get some mainstream companies complaining.

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	Thats a good idea, I know for a fact if the FTC gets massive amounts of complaints at a certain period of time they take action really fast

07-23-2003, 03:50 PM	#10
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	A pretty big monopoly. According to their patent, they pretty much own the internet. I wonder if theyre going after Kazaa and other forms of file transfers. From a cool article i read: Acacia's claims, they are asserting that they own the rights to two basic ideas: 1) Media (video, audio, images, text, etc.) stored in one location, encoded and transmitted digitally over some medium (telephone, cable TV, broadcast, etc.), and then decoded and reproduced at one or more other locations. This covers not just the transmission of online porn over the net, but also downloading and playing mp3 files, reading webpages, watching digital TV (whether over cable, satellite, or broadcast), sending faxes, using answering machines or services, baby monitors (if they buffer and encode video and/or audio digitally), pagers, etc. 2) A user at one location selecting media that is stored at a remote location for transmission to the user's location. If you've ever viewed a website (ooops, too late for you already) or logged onto a remote computer, you've used "technology" that Acacia claims is theirs and you are liable for royalty payments.

07-23-2003, 03:52 PM	#12
QualityMpegs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,521	Got my pretty purple Acacia packet today and plan on making a nice complaint to the FTC...any ideas on what exactly to say to them so they'll take us seriously?

07-23-2003, 03:55 PM	#13
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	Just link to a GFY thread, that should be pretty reputable.

07-23-2003, 04:38 PM	#15
imageman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	I am starting a small claims action first thing tomorrow then i will follow up with an official complaint from our companies attorneys to the FTC. Also sending a donation to Spike at HomeGrown Video to help the cause I will be contacting as many webmasters as possible to get them to do the same thing. One way or another these assholes are going down.

07-23-2003, 05:19 PM	#18
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	NOW you guys are catching on!