Acacia package, just by normal post, answer? - GoFuckYourself.com

justsexxx · 07-23-2003, 05:01 AM

Hi,

I know a guy who got his acacia package as well(in The Netherlands) it was send by the "normal" post. He didn't had to sign, was just delivered by the mailman....Can he ignore this? Because in The Netherlands you have to sign for important mail to show you actually gotten it. When not signed, you legally maybe never got it.

Andre

KRL · 07-23-2003, 05:02 AM

snipah7 · 07-23-2003, 05:03 AM

quiet · 07-23-2003, 05:03 AM

mine was sent in the same way. not by registered mail...

justsexxx · 07-23-2003, 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
mine was sent in the same way. not by registered mail...

I see, but "normal" mail is often lost... When I want to sue someone, or have important papers, we legally have to send them by signed mail...What did you do

(btw you are canada right? I saw they don't have patent there?)

Can you just ignore the first package, till they send a signed one?

Andre

Why · 07-23-2003, 05:26 AM

write their board of directors a NASTY letter citing that they are spamming you and need to to stop.

DarkJedi · 07-23-2003, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:16 AM

They can still take court action against you if they want. Ignorance of the law doesn't exempt you from it.

John3 · 07-23-2003, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
They can still take court action against you if they want. Ignorance of the law doesn't exempt you from it.

uh, no

serving a person via regular mail doesn't do a damn thing.

OneHungLo · 07-23-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
mine was sent in the same way. not by registered mail...

They hit you too? you just link to it right? How can these guys go after you for linking videos?? They actually have a patent on this?

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by John3

uh, no

serving a person via regular mail doesn't do a damn thing.

This past week, a California court issued injunctions against 5 porn companies because they didn't respond to Acacia. The injunctions prohibit these companies from infringing Acacia's DMT patents by transmitting compressed digital video information from any of their websites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030716/165180_1.html

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by OneHungLo

They hit you too? you just link to it right? How can these guys go after you for linking videos?? They actually have a patent on this?

He has video on his paysite.

John3 · 07-23-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK

This past week, a California court issued injunctions against 5 porn companies because they didn't respond to Acacia. The injunctions prohibit these companies from infringing Acacia's DMT patents by transmitting compressed digital video information from any of their websites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030716/165180_1.html

again, regular mail doesn't do a thing.

default judgments don't do much, either. but those companies referenced above were served either in person or thru a registered agent

justsexxx · 07-23-2003, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK

This past week, a California court issued injunctions against 5 porn companies because they didn't respond to Acacia. The injunctions prohibit these companies from infringing Acacia's DMT patents by transmitting compressed digital video information from any of their websites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030716/165180_1.html

Yeah saw that.
BUT, imagine, I say I have send a letter to you. But I didn't. This way you don't respond to me. SO I win in court? Futhermore, sometimes mail get lost. Things like that happens. So when my mailman lost my mail, I will loose? THink that is stupid.

Andre

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:44 AM

You seem to forget that Acacia can serve you anytime they want. The package they sent out is just to hopefully get you to pay them without them having to take court action.

They never had to send that package, they could just take immediate court action against everyone if they wanted to.

So ignore the package if you want, but the next one may be a court summons.

John3 · 07-23-2003, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
You seem to forget that Acacia can serve you anytime they want. The package they sent out is just to hopefully get you to pay them without them having to take court action.

They never had to send that package, they could just take immediate court action against everyone if they wanted to.

So ignore the package if you want, but the next one may be a court summons.

are you a complete idiot, or just a dumbfuck?

I mean, I agree with you that the packet is not something to be ignored, but the rest of your drivel is complete bs

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by John3

are you a complete idiot, or just a dumbfuck?

I mean, I agree with you that the packet is not something to be ignored, but the rest of your drivel is complete bs

Like what?

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:49 AM

and yes I'm aware that a court summons needs to be server properly

John3 · 07-23-2003, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
and yes I'm aware that a court summons needs to be server properly

what else did you say besides that and that regular mail was acceptable for service of process?

As I said, everything you wrote was drivel and bs.

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by John3

what else did you say besides that and that regular mail was acceptable for service of process?

As I said, everything you wrote was drivel and bs.

Where did I say that regular mail was acceptable for a subpoena?

I said Acacia could take court action anytime they want.

John3 · 07-23-2003, 07:57 AM

You never mentioned the word 'subpoena', but you jumped in to the thread when we were discussing regular mail.

And yes, any idiot or idiot company can file a lawsuit anytime they want. But it still has to be served properly otherwise the courts won't take any action.

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by John3
You never mentioned the word 'subpoena', but you jumped in to the thread when we were discussing regular mail.

And yes, any idiot or idiot company can file a lawsuit anytime they want. But it still has to be served properly otherwise the courts won't take any action.

ok, I guess you got my post mixed up with all the regular mail chatter.

My point was that Acacia can take court action against you anytime they want. They don't need to prove whether anyone received that intro package with all the information they sent out. My point was that you can ignore the package, but that doesn't prevent Acacia from taking court action against you since Acacia never even had to send out that package at all.

justsexxx · 07-23-2003, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by John3
You never mentioned the word 'subpoena', but you jumped in to the thread when we were discussing regular mail.

And yes, any idiot or idiot company can file a lawsuit anytime they want. But it still has to be served properly otherwise the courts won't take any action.

Okay. That makes sense to me. Hopefully the first court cases start soon, so we can forget about acacia

Andre

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by justsexxx

Okay. That makes sense to me. Hopefully the first court cases start soon, so we can forget about acacia

Andre

I think the next court date is July 28th.

Another interesting thing is that I think Acacia will be releasing 2nd quarter financials on the same day. It should be interesting to see how many millions they're still losing.

justsexxx · 07-23-2003, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK

I think the next court date is July 28th.

Another interesting thing is that I think Acacia will be releasing 2nd quarter financials on the same day. It should be interesting to see how many millions they're still losing.

28th july? Cool that is fast...You have more details?

andre

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by justsexxx

28th july? Cool that is fast...You have more details?

andre

Its a discovery phase

Cindyff · 07-23-2003, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by OneHungLo

They hit you too? you just link to it right? How can these guys go after you for linking videos?? They actually have a patent on this?

We got a letter from them yesterday here in the USA along with a CD. Idiots must have sent out a batch, pity our head office is in the UK and if they want to file suit against us they will have to do it in the UK and have the case heard there as well. Sure hope they have a ton of cash ?

That's what this latest drive is all about trying to scare up some cash to fight the cases they already have . If no one pays they may very well go down, under the shear pressure and expense of existing suits ?

Cindy xx

John3 · 07-23-2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Cindyff

We got a letter from them yesterday here in the USA along with a CD. Idiots must have sent out a batch, pity our head office is in the UK and if they want to file suit against us they will have to do it in the UK and have the case heard there as well. Sure hope they have a ton of cash ?

That's what this latest drive is all about trying to scare up some cash to fight the cases they already have . If no one pays they may very well go down, under the shear pressure and expense of existing suits ?

Cindy xx

Uh, if no one pays then the websites that have been served have to win in court.

Cindyff · 07-23-2003, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by John3

Uh, if no one pays then the websites that have been served have to win in court.

? If no one pays then its possible Acacia will run out of money , end of story if they havent got the money to continue, case or cases closed ??

Cindyxx

BRISK · 07-23-2003, 08:22 AM

Acacia is losing a LOT of money, but they still have around $40 million left to burn through. At their current burn rate, I think that gives them about 1.5 years left until they're out of cash.

John3 · 07-23-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Cindyff

? If no one pays then its possible Acacia will run out of money , end of story if they havent got the money to continue, case or cases closed ??

Cindyxx

nice thought, but totally wrong.

Gemini · 07-23-2003, 08:28 AM

Courts can seize monies owed and not being paid in judgements usually.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	They can still take court action against you if they want. Ignorance of the law doesn't exempt you from it. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	You seem to forget that Acacia can serve you anytime they want. The package they sent out is just to hopefully get you to pay them without them having to take court action. They never had to send that package, they could just take immediate court action against everyone if they wanted to. So ignore the package if you want, but the next one may be a court summons. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	and yes I'm aware that a court summons needs to be server properly __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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John3 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,214	You never mentioned the word 'subpoena', but you jumped in to the thread when we were discussing regular mail. And yes, any idiot or idiot company can file a lawsuit anytime they want. But it still has to be served properly otherwise the courts won't take any action. __________________ Hook 'em.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Acacia is losing a LOT of money, but they still have around $40 million left to burn through. At their current burn rate, I think that gives them about 1.5 years left until they're out of cash. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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