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Kristinka · 07-22-2003, 03:09 PM

I shot this last night. It is amateur photography with a 34 year old model fresh of the boat from Russia. I used a digital cam with no lighting. Image is not airbrushed. Future models will be eastern european!

We are still building a site for this content. This is my first try at erotic photography, so I welcome any and all criticism!! :D

CDSmith · 07-22-2003, 03:10 PM

Oh boy, here we go.

Peter Romero · 07-22-2003, 03:11 PM

Use younger more apealing models - the competition is stiff, don't waste your money & time on sub-standard talent.

SleazyDream · 07-22-2003, 03:13 PM

a low budget escort site with babes like that might do well.

off your surfers the chance to fuck her for free,,,

scratch that - you'll probally have to pay your surfers to fuck her.....

VideoVoyeur · 07-22-2003, 03:13 PM

Erm...

Walmart Webcam $42.90
Cheap Slut picked up from a bar in Russia $.10
Taking Pictures of her in your house on your couch from the 60's FREE

Calling it content:

Priceless

mastamindz · 07-22-2003, 03:14 PM

Is that a cock peeking thru its panties?

flashfreak · 07-22-2003, 03:20 PM

I believe you... she's so fresh from the boat she didn't had time to buy decent make up stuff...

fang · 07-22-2003, 03:21 PM

I don't know, it might do o.k. pushing a MILF site or maybe big tit amateurs

Kristinka · 07-22-2003, 03:22 PM

hahaha, thats right, very fresh of the boat

clubsexy · 07-22-2003, 03:22 PM

She's rough, but I am lonely and horny... Bring her over, I will hit it one time.

CDSmith · 07-22-2003, 03:22 PM

I'm not a big fan of ripping into models or people's content, because every look nowadays is marketable to someone. Fat, short, tall, skinny, hot or ugly... it sells.

But this model's face is way too mannish for me. I would market her as a Euro-amateur I suppose, or if she's a tranny then Euro-tranny-amateur...... but that face. Yeesh. Looks like a guy to me. Not bad tits though.

Digipimp · 07-22-2003, 03:50 PM

Keep working at it Kristinka you know there's a market for what you're doing. I think the boys would like to see some pics of you so they know what a hottie you are then they are a little kinder.

Lykos · 07-22-2003, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kristinka
I shot this last night. It is amateur photography with a 34 year old model fresh of the boat from Russia. I used a digital cam with no lighting. Image is not airbrushed. Future models will be eastern european!

We are still building a site for this content. This is my first try at erotic photography, so I welcome any and all criticism!! :D

VirtuMike · 07-22-2003, 04:33 PM

Yeah I think YOU should pose cuz you're way hotter than this girl.

SYNIKAL · 07-22-2003, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
Erm...

Walmart Webcam $42.90
Cheap Slut picked up from a bar in Russia $.10
Taking Pictures of her in your house on your couch from the 60's FREE

Calling it content:

Priceless

Phoenix · 07-22-2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
Erm...

Walmart Webcam $42.90
Cheap Slut picked up from a bar in Russia $.10
Taking Pictures of her in your house on your couch from the 60's FREE

Calling it content:

Priceless

damnif girls are that cheap over ther i am in the wrong country

greentea · 07-22-2003, 04:38 PM

did you at least fuck her?

res · 07-22-2003, 04:44 PM

Kristinka, this photo is not best promotion turn ! If you want to sell your content at the future time try to make hardcore photos...

footsex · 07-22-2003, 04:49 PM

tranny

Twe Russ · 07-22-2003, 05:05 PM

SOMEONE SHOULD WAX THOSE EYE BROWS.

Cassie · 07-22-2003, 05:26 PM

hey, she's/he's trying and at least this woman has a matching outfit on. some of the shit i have seen other women wear for a shoot is sickening. she/he asked for constuctive critisism so give her/him at least that.......sheesh

kristinka....a woman of that age (she looks older) should not be in stripper ware; she should be photographed in a bathrobe or mommy ware and posing in a kitchen or doing something most normal older women would do. as far as using a russian model, that will be a tough sell unless you can get your hands on the ones who are on the money and they are out there. i have content of russian women you would never, in a million years, guess were russian. try to hunt them down

if this is your first time ever shooting, the quality of the image isnt bad at all! i used a sony when i first shot (back in 97 or so) and it was horrible (i thought it was great at the time...30 images to a floppy disk...yikes). keep your lighting even (regardless if it is amateur) and make sure your women smile A LOT! keep at it and you should do well.

Jamdin · 07-22-2003, 05:31 PM

She looks great for a panty, legs or shoe fetish site

footsex · 07-22-2003, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamdin
She looks great for a panty, legs or shoe fetish site

What are you smoking?

LAJ · 07-22-2003, 05:45 PM

Put her in bondage gear.

saltricter · 07-22-2003, 05:47 PM

I hear in parts of russia vodka is cheaper than clean water.

Orga · 07-22-2003, 06:08 PM

Not bad for Mature , Amateur. Get additional lighting and all will be great

nap · 07-22-2003, 06:11 PM

you have to start somewhere. keep doing what your doing and i'm pretty sure that it will pay off eventually. i don't see why she won't sell. i've seen 10x worst on plenty of sites all over the internet. there is always somebody willing to pay for a half naked girl online and in real life.

slavdogg · 07-22-2003, 06:21 PM

hey for a fresh of the boat ( but most likely plane ) russian, she's not bad. And looks good enough for mature / milf niche.

Orga · 07-22-2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap
i've seen 10x worst on plenty of sites all over the internet.

Agree

Just check members area of some paysites.

Guitarriff · 07-22-2003, 06:58 PM

I like it, It isnt overused pornstars shit whose hahahahas are as wide as a fuckin manhole in the streets of NYC .

And I'd Hit it.

AGAIN !!!!!

Kristinka · 07-22-2003, 08:44 PM

wow, different oppinions..!!

I just came back from interviewing a few more girls, so more russian hotties to come!

sherie · 07-22-2003, 08:46 PM

The purse is suppose to match the shoes, not the lipstick! (well ya maybe both, but still...)

she has nice boobs etc., you must do something about the hair and make up!

footsex · 07-22-2003, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kristinka
wow, different oppinions..!!

I just came back from interviewing a few more girls, so more russian hotties to come!

more hotties to come?

Thats a scary thought, if you think this skank is hot,
I'm afraid to see what you shoot next...

maybe you should have said, more tranny's to come!

snipah7 · 07-22-2003, 08:49 PM

escorpio · 07-22-2003, 08:56 PM

what nap said

Kristinka · 07-22-2003, 09:28 PM

by hotties i mean a variety of girls, for all tastes.

prostock · 07-22-2003, 09:37 PM

KRL · 07-22-2003, 09:37 PM

Well, hmmm, you could probably make a fortune selling autographed 8 x 10's of her at your local Elks club.

UnseenWorld · 07-22-2003, 10:23 PM

Kristinka, here is some REAL advice about the photography and not the model (I will not offer any opinions on this one, because for every model, there is some Joe who will pull down his zipper).

Lighting is the key to moving from mere snapshot photography like this to something a bit more professional looking, or at least where the photographer becomes what I call "invisible."

There are two ways the photographer becomes visible. One is with harsh light coming directly from the camera, resulting in what's called "snapshot photography," which is what the example you showed us is.

The other way is to have such complex lighting that as soon as someone sees it they think "done by a pro photographer in his studio."

Personally (and of course others will feel different), I like it when the photography is such that it has one thinking about the model more than how harsh the lighting is or "how in the world did he do that?"

So, get your lighting off the camera. There are two basic ways of doing this: with wires or without.

A lot of photographers set up lights connected to the camera by wires or cables. There is a standard cable, called a "PC cord," and there are mfr specific wiring technologies, each kind having its merits...the latter one having more of a merit for the mfr to commit you to his hardware.

The other way to do this is to use a wireless system. I'm aware of at least three ways of doing this: 1) radio control, 2) infrared control, and 3) flash-initiated slaves.

Some else here can probably speak more about radio and infrared control. I've never used radio and have not used infrared for several years.

Now, I simply have off-camera slave flashheads that are tripped when my built-in flash goes off. My built-in flash is filtered way down so that only when I've very close is much light actually reaching the subject from my camera, and as I get closer, I adjust exposure accordingly. If I want to shoot a close-up, I'll adjust my exposure up to three full stops depending up on HOW close. Digital cameras don't work with most traditional slave units when the camera is in a program mode, so you will most likely have to learn to shoot manually. I can set proper exposure pretty well by simply looking at the display built into my camera (Nikon D100), but nevertheless, a flash meter is a good investment and a more than adequate one will run you about $150-$175. Believe it or not, metering for flash is one of the easiest metering situations you'll run into. (Try shooting outdoors sometime with a subject who is in mixed light and shade or moving about from light to shade and you'll start going crazy.)

In addition to the flash units, and whether or not you'll be using wired or wireless flash control, you'll want some kind of diffusers. If you point the flash(es) directly at your model, the lighting will look very harsh with deeply sculpted light and shadow. You can offset a flash coming from one site with one coming from the other, but still the lighting will not be soft and you'll be setting up some weird shadows.

The cheapest form of diffusing is called "bounce," where you bounce light off a wall or ceiling. Because the light spreads as it leaves the flashhead, it hits the wall or ceiling in a much wider pattern than the approx 1"x2" light on the flashhead. And from there, it spreads even further. This is diffusion. By the time light hits the subject, it is no longer coming from a very narrow source, but a fairly wide one. What this does is soften shadow lines greatly, making for much less harshness.

A mixture of light from the camera with light bounced off a wall or (more frequently) the ceiling is called "fill and bounce" and is as close as you'll get to true professional lighting without the investment. I shot 90% of the content on http://www.unseenworld.com using this technique, and I would now and then get other photographers either asking me what kind of lighting I used, or expressing astonishment that fill and bounce (a very primitive form of photo lighting) could actually look that good.

Next up is umbrellas. Here you have an umbrella mounted so that your flashhead either shoots at it or (less frequently, perhaps) through it. I suggest getting umbrellas with liners because these give you the most flexibility. Typically, a lined umbrella will have a liner which is silverized on one side and white on the other. Between shooting with the inside of the umbrella pointed at the subject or through the umbrella with the umbrella turned the other way around, plus some possibilities I probably haven't thought of or looked into, two flash/umbrella units gives you various lighting possibilities.

I also bring along a third flash unit in case there is just not enough light for whatever reason (or as a spare). If there isn't enough light, I can always bounce some off the ceiling! Even though my camera gives me the option of using ISO equivalents well into the stratosphere, quality goes down accordingly, and I don't like to go higher than 400. This is when I throw in a little bounce just to "top off" the lighting and either keep it at 400 or even get it back down into the 200 range.

Another common diffuser option is the light box. Many will argue this is a better solution than the umbrella, and I won't argue with them except that I do most of my shooting away and my umbrellas are very compact and easy to set up. They take up MUCH less space in a hotel room or other location with limited space, and I just think they are much easier to use and much less stress-inducing for this reason.

I haven't mentioned "studio lighting" so far, because it is mostly unnecessary when you are working outside a studio. Also, with a few exceptions, your typical studio light is about the size of a small toolbox. Some are larger than that. They are also much heavier than a flashhead. (By "flashhead," I mean something like you could mount on a camera shoe mount.) I don't know about you, but I like to fit everything inside a suitcase, and that means lighting, umbrellas, tripods for mounting them, camera, and anything else you bring to a shoot. Since I supply wardrobe, and I frequently just bring a bunch of skirts, shorts, tops, shoes, undies, hosiery, and accessories. If I'm overnighting, there's my own stuff as well. I also tend to bring along a laptop and a computer audio system, so that fills up a large suitcase. Studio lighting would be out of the question even if I wanted to use it.

Another reason for not using studio lighting is that apparently getting studio lights fitted to a light box can be a bit of a hassle.

I'm sure I've just set up a lot of counter opinions by expressing my own (or if I've made some mistakes, I'm sure I'll hear about them) and that's what's so beautiful about a discussion.

smack · 07-22-2003, 10:24 PM

well, she's hot for a russian. and she shaves her pits.

hegreryan · 07-22-2003, 10:29 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kristinka
[B]I shot this last night. It is amateur photography with a 34 year old model fresh of the boat from Russia. I used a digital cam with no lighting. Image is not airbrushed. Future models will be eastern european!

well if you want to actually make money on your content - and your models get younger and sexier - let me know. we've got hundreds of models from that region, a dozen photographers shooting daily, and we all make boat.

Pornwolf · 07-22-2003, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kristinka
by hotties i mean a variety of girls, for all tastes.

If you need a fluffer, or whatever you call a guy that gets the lips looking nice and primed for the shots just let me know. I'm less than a borough away.

Gimmy · 07-22-2003, 10:53 PM

che Kristinka, ne mogla naiti luche devok, tam u vas v New Yorke polno krassivix russkix devok

media · 07-22-2003, 10:55 PM

Tranny??

Wheres Kman...

Media

Roach · 07-22-2003, 11:53 PM

So many stupid comments and Black PR from content providers...
"Wise guys" let me exexplain two things, why sites like karasxxx.com with shitloads of professionally filmed beautiful looking girls converts 1:1500 and shitty looking amateur sites with much less pictures and movies filmed by $100 camera converts 1:200 ? Why sites like bangbus.com so popular?
Why oxcash guys puts on my page girls like this?
http://www.bangbus.com/home.htm?Handler=bbmaritza&wm=
More stupid comments plz////

Gimmy · 07-23-2003, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roach
So many stupid comments and Black PR from content providers...
"Wise guys" let me exexplain two things, why sites like karasxxx.com with shitloads of professionally filmed beautiful looking girls converts 1:1500 and shitty looking amateur sites with much less pictures and movies filmed by $100 camera converts 1:200 ? Why sites like bangbus.com so popular?
Why oxcash guys puts on my page girls like this?
http://www.bangbus.com/home.htm?Handler=bbmaritza&wm=
More stupid comments plz////

EXACTLY, could not of said better myself

brizzad · 07-23-2003, 12:19 AM

bangbus kicks ass

Kevin2 · 07-23-2003, 12:20 AM

Kristinka for a 1st attempt it is good so keep going and you will get there. At least you are trying

Gimmy · 07-23-2003, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Kevin2
Kristinka for a 1st attempt it is good so keep going and you will get there. At least you are trying

damn you have some hott chicas on your site

TurboAngel · 07-23-2003, 12:36 AM

Kristinka nice to meet you at the party!

07-22-2003, 03:09 PM	#1
Kristinka So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York Posts: 56	I shot my first set of content I shot this last night. It is amateur photography with a 34 year old model fresh of the boat from Russia. I used a digital cam with no lighting. Image is not airbrushed. Future models will be eastern european! We are still building a site for this content. This is my first try at erotic photography, so I welcome any and all criticism!! :D

07-22-2003, 03:10 PM	#2
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07-22-2003, 03:22 PM	#9
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res Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 1,118	Kristinka, this photo is not best promotion turn ! If you want to sell your content at the future time try to make hardcore photos...

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Cassie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,139	hey, she's/he's trying and at least this woman has a matching outfit on. some of the shit i have seen other women wear for a shoot is sickening. she/he asked for constuctive critisism so give her/him at least that.......sheesh kristinka....a woman of that age (she looks older) should not be in stripper ware; she should be photographed in a bathrobe or mommy ware and posing in a kitchen or doing something most normal older women would do. as far as using a russian model, that will be a tough sell unless you can get your hands on the ones who are on the money and they are out there. i have content of russian women you would never, in a million years, guess were russian. try to hunt them down if this is your first time ever shooting, the quality of the image isnt bad at all! i used a sony when i first shot (back in 97 or so) and it was horrible (i thought it was great at the time...30 images to a floppy disk...yikes). keep your lighting even (regardless if it is amateur) and make sure your women smile A LOT! keep at it and you should do well. __________________ ICQ: 309756847 ]

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nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	you have to start somewhere. keep doing what your doing and i'm pretty sure that it will pay off eventually. i don't see why she won't sell. i've seen 10x worst on plenty of sites all over the internet. there is always somebody willing to pay for a half naked girl online and in real life.

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07-22-2003, 06:58 PM	#30
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07-22-2003, 10:23 PM	#39
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Kristinka, here is some REAL advice about the photography and not the model (I will not offer any opinions on this one, because for every model, there is some Joe who will pull down his zipper). Lighting is the key to moving from mere snapshot photography like this to something a bit more professional looking, or at least where the photographer becomes what I call "invisible." There are two ways the photographer becomes visible. One is with harsh light coming directly from the camera, resulting in what's called "snapshot photography," which is what the example you showed us is. The other way is to have such complex lighting that as soon as someone sees it they think "done by a pro photographer in his studio." Personally (and of course others will feel different), I like it when the photography is such that it has one thinking about the model more than how harsh the lighting is or "how in the world did he do that?" So, get your lighting off the camera. There are two basic ways of doing this: with wires or without. A lot of photographers set up lights connected to the camera by wires or cables. There is a standard cable, called a "PC cord," and there are mfr specific wiring technologies, each kind having its merits...the latter one having more of a merit for the mfr to commit you to his hardware. The other way to do this is to use a wireless system. I'm aware of at least three ways of doing this: 1) radio control, 2) infrared control, and 3) flash-initiated slaves. Some else here can probably speak more about radio and infrared control. I've never used radio and have not used infrared for several years. Now, I simply have off-camera slave flashheads that are tripped when my built-in flash goes off. My built-in flash is filtered way down so that only when I've very close is much light actually reaching the subject from my camera, and as I get closer, I adjust exposure accordingly. If I want to shoot a close-up, I'll adjust my exposure up to three full stops depending up on HOW close. Digital cameras don't work with most traditional slave units when the camera is in a program mode, so you will most likely have to learn to shoot manually. I can set proper exposure pretty well by simply looking at the display built into my camera (Nikon D100), but nevertheless, a flash meter is a good investment and a more than adequate one will run you about $150-$175. Believe it or not, metering for flash is one of the easiest metering situations you'll run into. (Try shooting outdoors sometime with a subject who is in mixed light and shade or moving about from light to shade and you'll start going crazy.) In addition to the flash units, and whether or not you'll be using wired or wireless flash control, you'll want some kind of diffusers. If you point the flash(es) directly at your model, the lighting will look very harsh with deeply sculpted light and shadow. You can offset a flash coming from one site with one coming from the other, but still the lighting will not be soft and you'll be setting up some weird shadows. The cheapest form of diffusing is called "bounce," where you bounce light off a wall or ceiling. Because the light spreads as it leaves the flashhead, it hits the wall or ceiling in a much wider pattern than the approx 1"x2" light on the flashhead. And from there, it spreads even further. This is diffusion. By the time light hits the subject, it is no longer coming from a very narrow source, but a fairly wide one. What this does is soften shadow lines greatly, making for much less harshness. A mixture of light from the camera with light bounced off a wall or (more frequently) the ceiling is called "fill and bounce" and is as close as you'll get to true professional lighting without the investment. I shot 90% of the content on http://www.unseenworld.com using this technique, and I would now and then get other photographers either asking me what kind of lighting I used, or expressing astonishment that fill and bounce (a very primitive form of photo lighting) could actually look that good. Next up is umbrellas. Here you have an umbrella mounted so that your flashhead either shoots at it or (less frequently, perhaps) through it. I suggest getting umbrellas with liners because these give you the most flexibility. Typically, a lined umbrella will have a liner which is silverized on one side and white on the other. Between shooting with the inside of the umbrella pointed at the subject or through the umbrella with the umbrella turned the other way around, plus some possibilities I probably haven't thought of or looked into, two flash/umbrella units gives you various lighting possibilities. I also bring along a third flash unit in case there is just not enough light for whatever reason (or as a spare). If there isn't enough light, I can always bounce some off the ceiling! Even though my camera gives me the option of using ISO equivalents well into the stratosphere, quality goes down accordingly, and I don't like to go higher than 400. This is when I throw in a little bounce just to "top off" the lighting and either keep it at 400 or even get it back down into the 200 range. Another common diffuser option is the light box. Many will argue this is a better solution than the umbrella, and I won't argue with them except that I do most of my shooting away and my umbrellas are very compact and easy to set up. They take up MUCH less space in a hotel room or other location with limited space, and I just think they are much easier to use and much less stress-inducing for this reason. I haven't mentioned "studio lighting" so far, because it is mostly unnecessary when you are working outside a studio. Also, with a few exceptions, your typical studio light is about the size of a small toolbox. Some are larger than that. They are also much heavier than a flashhead. (By "flashhead," I mean something like you could mount on a camera shoe mount.) I don't know about you, but I like to fit everything inside a suitcase, and that means lighting, umbrellas, tripods for mounting them, camera, and anything else you bring to a shoot. Since I supply wardrobe, and I frequently just bring a bunch of skirts, shorts, tops, shoes, undies, hosiery, and accessories. If I'm overnighting, there's my own stuff as well. I also tend to bring along a laptop and a computer audio system, so that fills up a large suitcase. Studio lighting would be out of the question even if I wanted to use it. Another reason for not using studio lighting is that apparently getting studio lights fitted to a light box can be a bit of a hassle. I'm sure I've just set up a lot of counter opinions by expressing my own (or if I've made some mistakes, I'm sure I'll hear about them) and that's what's so beautiful about a discussion. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-22-2003, 10:24 PM	#40
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07-22-2003, 10:29 PM	#41
hegreryan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: global Posts: 75	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kristinka [B]I shot this last night. It is amateur photography with a 34 year old model fresh of the boat from Russia. I used a digital cam with no lighting. Image is not airbrushed. Future models will be eastern european! well if you want to actually make money on your content - and your models get younger and sexier - let me know. we've got hundreds of models from that region, a dozen photographers shooting daily, and we all make boat. __________________ ,.\|.. ryan ..\|.,

07-22-2003, 10:53 PM	#43
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