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Old 07-18-2003, 08:35 AM   #1
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MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Borrowing from technology for tracking pets, a U.S. company on Thursday launched Mexican sales of microchips that can be implanted under a person's skin and used to confirm health history and identity.

The microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is implanted in the arm or hip. Hospital officials and security guards use a scanning device to download a serial number, which they then use to access blood type, name and other information on a computer.

The microchips, already available in the United States, have been proposed as a solution to growing terrorism concerns in the US. Attorney General John Ashcrof-t has proposed mandatory implants for all visitors and immigrants from countries on the Department of Homeland Security's new terrorism watch-list.
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You are a US hater!!! LOL ... sorry, I couldn't resist.

Will they be able, thru the net, to "terminate" specific units ?

Or maybe program the microchip so they can vote properly?

A bit scarry, no?
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No, we're using seismographs to track you
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You are a US hater!!! LOL ... sorry, I couldn't resist.

Will they be able, thryu the net, to "terminate" specific units ?

Or maybe program the microchip so they can vote properly?

A bit scarry, no?
What are you saying? This is GOOD for the US.
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Watch your glass when you're in westin... seen the movie Jurassic park?
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TGF,

You're coming to Internext in Miami?
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You're coming to Internext in Miami?
Yeah. I'm heading for Florida on tuesday.
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What are you saying? This is GOOD for the US.
If you say so. Projects a great image worldwide of the US...

But it is true Americans don't give a shit:

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Americans appear to be shedding no tears about the increasing global antipathy to the US, particularly among its erstwhile allies in Europe. Some 43% agreed with the statement: "I don't much care what Europeans think - they are there, and I am here." Only 29% disagreed.

"More now than ever there is a view that 'I'm not interested in what the views of someone who doesn't like me and respect me'," Ms Salzman said.



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Youth find more truth in Eminem than Bush

Gary Younge in New York
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Yeah. I'm heading for Florida on tuesday.
You have a room number yet? Shoot me an email.

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You have a room number yet? Shoot me an email.

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I have no idea what my room number is.
I just got me reservation numbers.

I'll be at Westin ft.Lauderdale from july 22nd until july 30th, then I'll be at Diplomat from 30th until aug 5th.
I'll have my laptop with me, so I can shoot some details to you (and others) later.
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What are you saying? This is GOOD for the US.
Initiatives like this are absolutely necessary.

ANYTHING for a little peace of mind at night.

er. yeah ;)
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But it is true Americans don't give a shit
At the severe risk of being redundant, I'll quote myself.

This is a ride that no one wants to get off of. A timeless classic.

The top nation in the pecking power order of nations acts as imperialistic as ever. It's people wonder why other people hate them.

The people in the runner up nations in the great power game turn to such vague ideas as "culture" and "sophistication" and claim that theirs is better and, more importantly, that the top nations is inferior. "You may have wealth and power, but you don't have X". They act alarmed both as individuals and in their press until it reaches their leaders and they turn beligerent.

Everyone begins to hate each other. Everyone hides behind such phrases as "I like the people but not the leaders". This puts increasing pressure on the top nation to either change and conform or strike out. Either response is usually surprising.

Will this end like USSR/US/Europe with the Soviet citizens and the people of the Soviet Republics finally standing up and saying "We want to be more like them!" or will end up like World War I did with all the hatred of decades of negative thoughts and press towards each other?

No cause. No effect. Just action and reaction.

The same old song. The same old dance.
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Colin, you are starting to sound like theKing: repeating yourself!

Hey, I just posted a confirmation of your position. Flavor it, maybe it won't happen again.



PS: Enjoy FtLdl ... I go evey winter ( a bit more North - Pompano) for a few weeks to relax ...
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Why is it discrimination?
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Wonder how it stays in place? What if you got in an accident and it got pushed into a blood vessel. You'd clot and go kapoot.
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there will be doctors removing those things for food stamps and crack here in los angeles!
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pure genius, hahaha so everyone but the terrorist will have these implanted, because they will get them removed.. what a fucking joke.

just like in the movies! muahaha
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MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Borrowing from technology for tracking pets, a U.S. company on Thursday launched Mexican sales of microchips that can be implanted under a person's skin and used to confirm health history and identity.

The microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is implanted in the arm or hip. Hospital officials and security guards use a scanning device to download a serial number, which they then use to access blood type, name and other information on a computer.

The microchips, already available in the United States, have been proposed as a solution to growing terrorism concerns in the US. Attorney General John Ashcrof-t has proposed mandatory implants for all visitors and immigrants from countries on the Department of Homeland Security's new terrorism watch-list.
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They are going to chip everything .Read This. . I feel safer already .
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They are going to chip everything .Read This. . I feel safer already .
You are probably against facial recognition software too. Criminals have pulled out into the lead. Time for the feds to crack down with TECHNOLOGY. Good people like you and I have nothing to fear.
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It's very simple. Come into this country and get a chip or don't come in. That's a choice. There ya go, freedom.
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It's very simple. Come into this country and get a chip or don't come in. That's a choice. There ya go, freedom.
What about if this was inversed?

Let say that All US citizens going to Mexico ( or Saudia Arabia...) will have a chip implanted. Would Americans go for that ?
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What about if this was inversed?

Let say that All US citizens going to Mexico ( or Saudia Arabia...) will have a chip implanted. Would Americans go for that ?
Very simple. Then I make a CHOICE as to whether to go to Mexico or not. What's the big deal? What right do I have to tell the Saudis what they can or cannot do? I thought you were real big on sovereignty. Just not for the US?
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Very simple. Then I make a CHOICE as to whether to go to Mexico or not. What's the big deal? What right do I have to tell the Saudis what they can or cannot do? I thought you were real big on sovereignty. Just not for the US?
The US government wouldn't probably accept it and would start bullying. Don't deny it.
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The US government wouldn't probably accept it and would start bullying. Don't deny it.
The US Bullies??? You are a HATER!!! lol

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Belgium tried to water down the law to satisfy the US but Washington insisted it was repealed, threatening to boycott Nato's headquarters in Brussels. That pressure appears to have paid off. A replacement law will only apply to Belgian citizens or residents.

A spokesman for Human Rights Watch told the daily Le Soir: "It's pathetic that Belgium could not resist at a time when the Americans are waging a veritable jihad against international justice."


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This is to exempt US military and citizens to be prosecuted for war crimes....

No, the US would submit to micochip implant...
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The US government wouldn't probably accept it and would start bullying. Don't deny it.
It's amazing all these nations let themselves be bullied around. If Direct Fiesta were Prime Minister, he'd have none of that!
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i know chips was coming they're seeking like that,i always tought they would use all the 'kidnapping' to justify though.


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This is to exempt US military and citizens to be prosecuted for war crimes....

No, the US would submit to micochip implant...
It's going to end up like in Rome when everyone the world over was speaking Latin and wanted citizenship and it's privileges. Just watch. Pretty soon everyone everywhere will be learning English ;-)
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What're you talking about? Are you a Xian?
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LOL!

People on this board were calling me a conspiracy nut and much worse whenever I brought up the fact that the US plans on microchipping its entire population within 20 years. First they start with immigrants. Then once the population at large is acclimated to the idea, they do the microchip thing for society in general.

All it will take is another so-called terrorist attack, maybe something like smallpox. The various acts they have passed since 911 gives the government all kinds of "emergency powers" including forced quarantine, forced innoculations, even cordoning off entire cities. I can easily see them forcing a certain segment of the population to be "chipped" in order for "emergency health workers" to quickly scan you for diseases. After that, it's just a matter of time before everyone is chipped.

- The government had foreknowledge of 911
- The government plans on microchipping you

"Conspiracy Nut" Alex Jones has been investigating all these subjects for about ten years. He is an Austin, TX radio host and investigative journalist. He pulls all his information from public records. He does not "Make things up" like real conspiracy nuts. He has been warning people of a microchipped popluation plan for years.

Visit his site regularly and you might just learn something:

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we need to get these fucking ahrdcore christian republicans the FUCK OUT OF OFFICE.

i was ok with them when they were fighting a war. but their domestic policies are even more cracked out than i though. why is it, that no matter what party you vote for you're fucked? al gore, it would have been all electric cars and singing kumbaya like a bunch of hippies around a campfire. george bush, it's the ministry of love kncoking at your door to fix your new tele screen. why does everyone have to be so fucking out there for the presidency?

aren't there any decent americans that enjoy shooting guns, smoking weed, and letting people rnu their own moral decisions? this is sick, just fucking sick. if i flew to the UK and they told me to enter to country i had to have a microchip implanted inside me i would tell them to go pound sand up their assholes. this is one step away from all american citizens getting these things implanted.

and this offends me. i honestly feel myself to be a patriot. i feel very strongly towards my country. but within the last 30 years it has all started going downhill. where are the men of integrity and honesty to guide us. why are there no more thomas jefferson's or george washington's. for christs sake, george washington TURNED DOWN being a king. all this news about microchips and such just confirms a belief i have had for a very long time. the world is fucked. people are fucked. and there are no more great men.
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Old 07-18-2003, 10:46 AM   #42
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aren't there any decent americans that enjoy shooting guns, smoking weed, and letting people rnu their own moral decisions?
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Old 07-18-2003, 11:01 AM   #43
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for christs sake, george washington TURNED DOWN being a king
Yeah, "King George". THAT would have went over real well.

Wait a minute ....

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Old 07-18-2003, 11:07 AM   #44
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All it will take is another so-called terrorist attack, maybe something like smallpox. The various acts they have passed since 911 gives the government all kinds of "emergency powers" including forced quarantine, forced innoculations, even cordoning off entire cities. I can easily see them forcing a certain segment of the population to be "chipped" in order for "emergency health workers" to quickly scan you for diseases. After that, it's just a matter of time before everyone is chipped.
Oh, come one now. What's wrong with chipping people that have the right to say no? They're not chipping citizens. All they have to do is decide to not come to the US. How difficult is that? "Emergency powers"? You've been watching too much Star Wars.
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Old 07-18-2003, 11:11 AM   #45
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Old 07-18-2003, 11:13 AM   #46
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Oh, come one now. What's wrong with chipping people that have the right to say no? They're not chipping citizens. All they have to do is decide to not come to the US. How difficult is that? "Emergency powers"? You've been watching too much Star Wars.
Uhhh no. I have not been watching too much Star Wars. I have been reading too many newspapers and government reports.

That's why this whole microchipping thing will eventually go over so easily. Eventhough the plans, the new laws etc. are all out in the open, the American people just don't bother to read. Fuck, they deserve to be chipped. I say, chip 'em all.
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Old 07-18-2003, 11:15 AM   #47
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Check out the archives on Infowars for more information on the chipping plans yet to come. All the info has been culled from government reports, associated press articles, official defense press releases and scientific journals:



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Tatoos on Jews in Europe? Similar ... and high tech at the time.

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Hitler realized that, in order to achieve his ambitious goals, which encompassed nothing less than Aryan domination of Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals, he would have to fight a series of wars. The invasion of Poland was just the first step of this bloody enterprise.

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Bush realized that, in order to achieve his ambitious goals, which encompassed nothing less than American domination of the Middle East, he would have to fight a series of wars. The invasion of Iraq was just the first step of this bloody enterprise.

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Tatoos on Jews in Europe? Similar ... and high tech at the time.

Come one now. Comparing Ashcrof-ts implants of (voluntary)immigrants from a short list of countries to Hitler's mandatory tatooing of Jews. You're going a little far now. You guys try too hard to make this Nazi Germany/US comparison.
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Colin, are you still considering me for the Attorney General position in our administration? By the way, come by our booth at the show. We're booths 610-612.
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