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Old 07-19-2003, 12:03 AM   #1
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Who wants to trade for $2,000.00 per month or more?

Well, I'm on the verge of joining the military. I still would like to explore my options. So, here's my final adult proposition (no pun intended):

If you can show me how to make $4,000.00 per month or more, I will give you exactly half of whatever I make in exchange for your guidance. I'm experienced in webmastering, so it's not starting from scratch. Contracts can be made for this arrangement.

I'm simply asking because I'm tired of having bad luck and I keep taking the wrong turns. I'm about to sell my sites, and it would be nice to have someone send me down the right path to avoid a mistake I may be making by joining the service so I can afford college.

And we all know that money talks.

There it is, flame on.

Oh, yeah, and you can reach me via e-mail: [email protected]

ICQ? Got that too, but I don't remember the number.

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Old 07-19-2003, 12:05 AM   #2
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I am looking for a very similar deal!
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:07 AM   #3
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Me too! :D
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:07 AM   #4
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no way!
what are the odds!!?
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:09 AM   #5
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:19 AM   #6
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no way!
what are the odds!!?
Horny, moneyless kids with lots of ambition - but no tools or skills.

LOL.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:25 AM   #7
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Hybrid's proposition gives me the creeps... Dunno why, sounds too desperate or something -=x

Hybrid, good luck with everything man.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:26 AM   #8
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dude, making 4k a month is easy, but it takes money to make money (in most cases) unless you have $$ to drop into a paysite or something.. you wont make money..
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:26 AM   #9
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Hybrid's request gives me the creeps... Dunno why -=x
I think it has something to do with your nickname

some CREEP
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:28 AM   #10
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Give me a number, then. If you want half, throw half down. I do most, if not all the work.

It's a simple concept, really.
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I think it has something to do with your nickname

some CREEP
lol, well thats a first, you were quoting me as I was re-editing my post. Bastard! ...j/k
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:31 AM   #12
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Show me how to make 4k a month and I'll keep just 1k

I'll do all the work..

I am not really desperate, just want $ fast
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:40 AM   #13
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OK.. gonna state some of the obvious stuff:

(a) Know who you partner with. There are strengths and weaknesses in different areas of web stuff. If you are good at graphics, you don't need a partner that does this as well, when you may need someone with SE promotion experience.

(b) Sort the money cut out and stick to it. Also agree to a number of hours a week each.

(c) It takes funds to earn funds - don't expect some "magic" just because you have another pair of hands.

(d) Why think at a $4K/month level?? Assess what you can do in practical terms and head for it.

(e) Nothing turns out the way you want it to be, - adapt and roll with the flow.

Enough of this BS and Good Luck!
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:42 AM   #14
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Okay.

This is called Operation Duckats.


Get a job at Costco.
Continue operating your websites.
Combine the two revenue streams.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:49 AM   #15
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Heh, I have a FT job already, along with 0 income from adult at this point.

This is why I made the offer. Nothing to combine.

I'm not sitting on my ass diddling myself. When I say bad luck, I mean bad luck. When I say I've wasted too much money trying to get it right in adult, that's exactly what I mean.

I can't believe there's not one serious person amid all of the successful people that hang out here who does'nt see the benefit in profiting from the simple, no-hassle job of imparting knowledge to someone else.

It's unthinkable.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:50 AM   #16
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It amazes me that someone can have 2000+ posts on a board like this and not be making any money. The information is all out there for free and there are tons of boards where people will help newbies out with really good info. $4K a month is only about 5 sign ups a day - you need to spend less time posting and more time reading, learning and building.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:51 AM   #17
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this board could be as much a social board than a business board
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:53 AM   #18
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If I submit, good optimized sites to Linklists/TGP's 600 or so of them

1 gall each day

how much can I expect?

I know it depeneds on A LOT of variables, but just an average?

Or simple yet, if you did that, how much $ would you expect?
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:54 AM   #19
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what current skills do you have?
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:55 AM   #20
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In the Army Now
A vacation in the foreign land,
Uncle Sam does the best he can.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Now you remember what the draft man said:
Nothing to do all day but stay in bed.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

You'll be a hero of the neighbourhood,
Nobody knows that you left for good.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Smiling faces as you wait to land,
But once you get there no one gives a damn.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Hand grenades flying over your head...

Missiles flyin' over your head.
If you wanna survive get out of bed.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Shots ring out in the dead of night.
The sergeant calls: "Stand up and fight!"
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

You've got your orders there to shoot on sight.
Your finger's on the trigger but it don't seem right.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Night is falling and you just can't see.
Is this illusion or reality?
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army, in the army now.
You're in the army now,
Oh oh you're in the army now.

Oh oh you're in the army, in the army now...
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:55 AM   #21
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It amazes me that someone can have 2000+ posts on a board like this and not be making any money. The information is all out there for free and there are tons of boards where people will help newbies out with really good info. $4K a month is only about 5 sign ups a day - you need to spend less time posting and more time reading, learning and building.
Yeah, I've told myself the very same thing and have heard it a million times. That's why I post like crazy for a few months, and then dissappear for another few. I've read, and studied, and spent, and tried, and burned out and tried it all out over and over again.

I understand the game, it makes sense to me. When applying it, however, I mean what I say:

I have had bad luck. I have wasted too much money.

It's not about laziness, it's about consequences dictating my course of action.

Don't start this high horse "an idiot can do this shit in his sleep, it's soooo easy" bullshit. I've heard it all before, and I'm beginning to think I am an exception to this "rule".
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:58 AM   #22
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I pay you 50% of all $ made
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:58 AM   #23
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Well, I'm on the verge of joining the military. I still would like to explore my options. So, here's my final adult proposition (no pun intended):

If you can show me how to make $4,000.00 per month or more, I will give you exactly half of whatever I make in exchange for your guidance. I'm experienced in webmastering, so it's not starting from scratch. Contracts can be made for this arrangement.

I'm simply asking because I'm tired of having bad luck and I keep taking the wrong turns. I'm about to sell my sites, and it would be nice to have someone send me down the right path to avoid a mistake I may be making by joining the service so I can afford college.

And we all know that money talks.

There it is, flame on.

Oh, yeah, and you can reach me via e-mail: [email protected]

ICQ? Got that too, but I don't remember the number.
Fuck that, join the military, you owe your country....

And besides, I made my first million when i was an E-3 in the Marines, don't let the military slow your roll man....
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:59 AM   #24
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what current skills do you have?
Design, HTML (DW included), lil Java, marketing, experience in application of business goals in real world situations to bring about results (non-adult-offline start-up), gallery submissions, gallery design, TGP ownership and operation.

ANything else I think of I'll throw down.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:00 AM   #25
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You're posting at the wrong board - you really do need to ask for help at one of the newbie boards, TNB or Voltar's. This board is good for a laugh and for getting general industry news, but you're not going to get the kind of help you need here.
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Fuck that, join the military, you owe your country....

And besides, I made my first million when i was an E-3 in the Marines, don't let the military slow your roll man....
thanks for the help, man. You know as well as I do things are different now with adult.
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You're posting at the wrong board - you really do need to ask for help at one of the newbie boards, TNB or Voltar's. This board is good for a laugh and for getting general industry news, but you're not going to get the kind of help you need here.
Yeah, you're prolly right. I'm throwing this offer at all boards I belong to when I get to my computer. GFY's home, though.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:03 AM   #28
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alright

post some examples of your design work....galleries and whatever.
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Step 1: Figure out how to make $4 a month

Step 2: Replicate that process 1000 times a month
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Step 1: Figure out how to make $4 a month

Step 2: Replicate that process 1000 times a month
easy for you to say
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I can't believe there's not one serious person amid all of the successful people that hang out here who does'nt see the benefit in profiting from the simple, no-hassle job of imparting knowledge to someone else.

It's unthinkable.
K! Basically there are two types of "webmasters".

First is, they have been in the biz for 4 years of more and are already 1000 steps ahead. They could not afford to take time to spend on education since there is no way this could be returned.

Second are ... a considerable volume of "newbies". I know, with the exception of a rare few, they do not earn any viable funds from net activity. (But suppose what is viable to others may be a different story - depends on your comfort level.)

This is not a business that is some easy way to pull in some $$'s when you have basically little to start with in marketing ability, "net" experience and funding.

On possibly a more constructive side.. First is you need some marketing and promotional ability. This is probably 90% of the job. Front ends, design of sites, html crap is nothing in comparison. All that is assumed in the first instance.

Basically if you partner with someone in the same position as yourself, you will need funding or remain with some "day job" till you progress. The "anti" to that is it takes PLENTY hours and months to see any return. If you are "stuck" with a day job, this is going to take longer.

PS.. Sure would ... even for some perverse thrill... love to "start again" - but it would be insane to dump a load of revenue down the drain!
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http://www.sexyluck.com/xxx/black.htm

www.bbswhore.com

www.sexyluck.com

http://www.bbswhore.com/1/shemale.htm

http://www.bbswhore.com/stephanie/GalleryFTC.html

That's about all I can find that I have'nt scrapped.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:19 AM   #33
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Hybrid,

I really hate to see someone join the military JUST to pay for college. What is your time frame? How soon do you need some extra cash? I already know you want to work your ass off but even the projects I'm working currently don't have a set deadline. You have my info, send me an email or something man. If it comes down to you going to the military to pay for college I'm sure we can figure SOMETHING out. I just don't know about it being something in a week or two. Not having to work makes you pretty lazy on some fronts.

Anyhow, ICQ me or shoot me an email. [email protected]

I have a wedding today and I have to help my grandma pack Sunday but I'm on day and night besides that.

Holla fool!
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:21 AM   #34
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You have to learn to sell aggressively... none of those URLs are geared to sell.
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Have to watch out now, heh
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I really hate to see someone join the military JUST to pay for college. What is your time frame? How soon do you need some extra cash? I already know you want to work your ass off but even the projects I'm working currently don't have a set deadline. You have my info, send me an email or something man. If it comes down to you going to the military to pay for college I'm sure we can figure SOMETHING out. I just don't know about it being something in a week or two. Not having to work makes you pretty lazy on some fronts.

Anyhow, ICQ me or shoot me an email. [email protected]

I have a wedding today and I have to help my grandma pack Sunday but I'm on day and night besides that.
Hey J, I'm not at home right now, otherwise I'd be on ICQ. I'm not in any kind of financial bind or anything like that, you know me, man. We've talked about this before.

It bothers me that all I'm doing is working my FT job and nothing else. No school. So no, no time frame, I'd just rather not keep saving money for a few months, then go to school for a quarter, then quit and save money for a few months, and go for another quarter. I've been out of high school for 4 years, and I've only got a little over a year done of school. It fucking sucks.

I really don't want to be finally grabbing my masters when I'm 42 while working at a fucking copy shop or a gas station or some bullshit.

Hence, the post.
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SCRAPPED???? Sheesh.. I never scrapped a page since 1995! Still no idea what's on the sites, but they still earn something! But sure are embarassed as hell to look back on them!

You have PR3 on some of these domains.. but you need a good bit of SE opt on em!

Na.. you sure don't need to join any military to earn your way thru college - just be persistant as hell and screw the "design" and pump most of your efforts into promotion!

Think this... once decent page that can, say produce $500/month from 20K hits, just needs 160K hits to do that $4K/month you wanted.
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Hey J, I'm not at home right now, otherwise I'd be on ICQ. I'm not in any kind of financial bind or anything like that, you know me, man. We've talked about this before.

It bothers me that all I'm doing is working my FT job and nothing else. No school. So no, no time frame, I'd just rather not keep saving money for a few months, then go to school for a quarter, then quit and save money for a few months, and go for another quarter. I've been out of high school for 4 years, and I've only got a little over a year done of school. It fucking sucks.

I really don't want to be finally grabbing my masters when I'm 42 while working at a fucking copy shop or a gas station or some bullshit.

Hence, the post.
I'm not on ICQ either. I went to a wedding rehearsal today and came home to an 86 degree house. Got to get a fan motor for the a/c. I'm swamped this weekend but I'll be on from time to time and at night. All the time again starting Monday.
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Actually, I take that back. About 4-5 months is my time-frame to start making a significant income to afford school.

That's the time I've given myself before joining to clean up old debts, reduce monthly payments and get back in shape for stress of boot camp.
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Think this... once decent page that can, say produce $500/month from 20K hits, just needs 160K hits to do that $4K/month you wanted.
Thank you, but I have learned, through the bullshit of experience, that that is much easier said than done.
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Will do. It's 3:30 am here, I'll be home between 7:30 and 8:30 am. Will you be up?
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Think this... one decent page that can, say produce $500/month from 20K hits, just needs 160K hits to do that $4K/month you wanted.
intersting POV ... i usually bang out a zillion little pages and they seem to add up, never thought of concentrating on one single site.


seems it would be much easier also.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:41 AM   #45
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:43 AM   #46
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Hybrid if things are that bad hit me up when your home.

I have some ideas that can get you rolling on a low level pretty quickly, and a higher level in time ...

money always helps, sure .. but isnt always needed.

Im no billionaire or anything, but id love to give ya a hand if i can, maybe between the 2 of us we can have a good thing?
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:47 AM   #47
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Thank you for the offer, but I am going to say this with as much tact as I can muster.

I do not trust you.

Ever since being fucked by Rockstar, I have invested a lot more faith in the reputation of people I do business with.

No offense.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:51 AM   #48
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Thank you, but I have learned, through the bullshit of experience, that that is much easier said than done.
Who said it was easy?? It ain't!!!

That's the point where you need effort and if you think it can't be done - so be it. But I can assure you it is the way *anyone* does it, including me. That ain't some secret.
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Old 07-19-2003, 02:00 AM   #49
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lil2rich4u2

Thank you for the offer, but I am going to say this with as much tact as I can muster.

I do not trust you.

Ever since being fucked by Rockstar, I have invested a lot more faith in the reputation of people I do business with.

No offense.
oh none taken

i said clearly in my post above that you didnt need money to get yourself rolling on a low level, and be able to build on it.

I dont want your money man, dont know what gave you the idea i did ...



ok thanks anyway, good luck
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:40 AM   #50
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bump.

Last chance.
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