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07-20-2003, 08:02 PM
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Paysite Owners: Name Your Best and Worst Plugin Content
I'm researching paysite members area content, looking at several members areas of medium size and 'big boy' operators it looks like the theory is 'everything but the kitchen sink' - pages and pages of links to tons of different plugins.
i'm checking the plugins out and most are pure shit from a surfers point of view - video feeds which aren't hosted on streaming media servers, just WMV and RM files embedded in HTML. This just doesn't work. If you gave the surfer the ability to actually download the file to his hard drive then i could see those kind of plugins having some merit. Ibroadcast feeds - to me as a surfer, completely useless. Fills up a members area but does it do anything to keep a member? So to you guys who have quality paysites which plugins do you believe actually help retain a member? Are there plugins that your members have actually told u via email or survey that they particularly enjoy and are a major reason they have remained members? i love Bubble Girls, to me that's something different and of high quality. There must be lots of other good ones, just don't have time to check every one of them out. Also good if you have a teen or amateur site is Global Girls Gallery from Python. AEBN feeds also pretty good. Socal Streams also good. Hustler very good. Gimme the quality ones and the ones that are pure shit that are only there cuz they're cheap and fill things out. Thanks
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07-20-2003, 08:07 PM
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we dont use plug ins.
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07-20-2003, 08:07 PM
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however i really like the socal feeds.
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07-20-2003, 08:09 PM
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Mutt I don't believe in plugins for the exact reasons you just mentioned. My best converting pay sites are all exclusive content and my CB's are .004%
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07-20-2003, 08:10 PM
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are you saying you bought every video and picture 1 by 1? isnt that kinda expensive...
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07-20-2003, 08:11 PM
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we'll miss you our friend. RIP
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no plugins here
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07-20-2003, 08:13 PM
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Some of the big players use all or almost all plugin content in their members areas. They must do well since they look like they're always making money.
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07-20-2003, 08:14 PM
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Of course Socalstreams rule
MarcoP shoots great hardcore and softcore videos. looking for other plugins of that caliber, any niche except for BDSM. http://www.sexportraits.com
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07-20-2003, 08:14 PM
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I will let someone kick me in the junk if I ever put a plugin in my members area. NEVER! 100% downloadable for life.
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07-20-2003, 08:20 PM
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I can not think of any plug ins that jump to the top. Bubble girls is too fake these days, non us girls, and fake squirting. Also, too few plug ins are updated.
If you are thinking of coming out with a plug in, good luck. Paysite owners are cutting expenses left and right.
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07-20-2003, 08:21 PM
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The big players for the most part have had success with the 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach, throw enough stuff at the customers, they're bound to find a few things they enjoy. It's the only model that can work when you're putting up 50 different niche paysites and paying out webmasters 40 bucks a signup. I'm looking for the few quality plugins that might actually make a difference and are worth the investment. Surfers are smarter and more discriminating - pretty sure they see filler content for what it is - crap. Just want the stuff that might make a difference.
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07-20-2003, 08:24 PM
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1. Happy members who rebill 2. Happy affiliates because of the above 3. Very low CB's of .004% I have 7 pay sites and 3 of them are 100% exclusive content. The other 4 are not and you can see the difference between the two by comparing rebills and CB ratios. At least that is what I see on mine. I didn't start off with exclusive because of the costs involved but as the other 4 plus my AVS sites made money I invested that into exclusive content to launch the others. The 3 are now profitable and I buy new exclusive content every week for updates. I'm still looking for a decently priced teen hardcore supplier and in time I will find what I'm looking for 
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07-20-2003, 08:25 PM
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BubbleGirls is back shooting in the US shooting American chicks. But the updating of BubbleGirls is erratic at best.
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07-20-2003, 08:27 PM
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http://www.wantongirls.com/samples.html
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07-20-2003, 08:36 PM
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Thanks Mutt I'm taking a look right now
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07-20-2003, 08:48 PM
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Well I personally prefer Xfusion, then again it is my company
We have nearly 200,000 images online with a image manipulation program server side that allows the surfer to view the image in one of three resolutions usually ranging as high as 1600x1200. The images are spread across six image galleries ranging from teen, amateur, busty, mature, BDSM, and a special one from Suze Randell. Each gallery has its own link in case a specific gallery does not fit into your website. Our package also includes two video products, Voyeur Jungle and our Video Girls. VJ is a LIVE Voyeur house with 10 cameras throughout the house. Full nudity and occasional sex, all with no upselling. Our Video Girls item is the second item with weekly updates. By far our hottest item that gets hit 10 times harder than our other galleries. All girls are 18-24 years of age and either American or Czech. All EXCLUSIVE and will never be seen on other websites. Videos are streamed in Quicktime at 64KB/s to stream on your computer with no pixelation. Stop by and give us a try! Xfusion http://www.xfusion.cx
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07-20-2003, 09:15 PM
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Xfusion i just signed up to look at your stuff, if i were you i'd make that automatic so people can look at your content immediately. 15 minutes and i still haven't received an email with a password.
videos are streamed at 64KB/sec? uh.......that should really satisfy the hundreds of thousands of surfers on cable and DSL.
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07-20-2003, 10:22 PM
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I really like the bubble girls stuff...
I think your once again on the right track mutt with the thoughts about content plug ins and the "everything but the kitchen sink" days being over.
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07-20-2003, 11:46 PM
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take a look at www.paysiteplugins.com for an *almost* complete list
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07-20-2003, 11:54 PM
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07-21-2003, 12:07 AM
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if you like to keep some members you may try some online games... I currently use on my members area the games from www.xamo.com.... they are very good and addictive.. I myself play them everyday I can
they are a good and cheap way to entertrain your members... gepe |
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07-21-2003, 12:23 AM
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We are using some galls of Candid, but the main content is delivered by ourself, because nobody else has such a large amount of photos & videos and flexible Plug-In concept and I have designed it because of the requests I had for Plug In's.
If you like to have a look to it: http://www.skan-media.net
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07-21-2003, 12:27 AM
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Mutt, http://www.webmastercentral.com is one of the best
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07-21-2003, 12:47 AM
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i'll have to check out WebmasterCentral, last time I checked it out which was a fairly long time ago, the interfaces were pretty but the actual movies weren't very good.
thanks for suggestions
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07-21-2003, 12:50 AM
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Does anybody have monster cock photo content for license? Not plugin - licensed photosets. Photoshopped hardcore b/g photosets featuring monster cocks.
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07-21-2003, 01:42 AM
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You want reality? Take a look at Got Jizz and Porn in Public. The plots and settings change constantly and your members come back month after month to see what's new and exciting. Ask any of the big webmasters about us.
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07-21-2003, 03:02 AM
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Mostly exclusive stuff on my site but I have some bonus plugins for my members, www.adultlegalporn2go.com have a heap of great vid plugins and they are very cheap, and I also have some plugins from xxxmedia.com wich are also very cheap.
I don't see anything wrong with them as long as they are just an add on to exclusive content. Spooky |
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07-21-2003, 03:22 AM
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Good plugin: www.adultcontent.co.uk/plugins
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07-21-2003, 03:32 AM
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07-21-2003, 07:39 AM
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We use a couple of plugins just to make the members area look bigger than it actually is ... but the exclusive stuff is what keeps them there.
The surfers seem to dig Electra Content but I'm not sure how long that will last cuz it's our second month open and their update for July was pretty weak... I hope August will be better or we may have to go shopping too.
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I saw one of the strangest porn scenarios today as i checked the daily update (always gotta check the update ) - It starts off with this student going to her teacher, and asking her to check out her muff because she thinks she has an STD. Mmmm, STD, turn on 
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look at www.xxxreams.com . very good live plugins.
and the video plugin for piss_lovers is very good too (piss paradise).
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07-21-2003, 02:07 PM
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Some good points in this thread. I wouldn't mind some of you who are "anti-plugin" going in and checking out our shit, I'd like to hear some honest opinions. Our game feeds have always been popular, and help with long retentions. Our video feeds are 128k,256k, and 512k, and are all color corrected and have really nice interfaces. We add 5 feeds a month, AND update many of the feeds every month (so you've got tons of fresh shit every month).
I'm trying not to plug here, but trying to hopefully seperate our feeds from the shit that's out there, I agree many plugins that exist are crap. We try to go above and beyond those problems, I personally think plugins are the way to go, because users can't download your movies (yes ours are "true" streaming, and protected) which forces them to rebill to keep viewing your members area. Thoughts? 
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07-21-2003, 03:28 PM
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i like downloading the porn movies rather than streaming. I use the time spent waiting for the movie to download to have foreplay
with myself and get in the mood. I'm not a wham bam thank you man kinda masturbator, i need some romance.
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If you have an amateur section, http://www.homegrowncontent.com is quite nice... Plus you help support one of the companies standing up to Acacia.
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I'll vouch for virtumike and richard. they both have very high quality plugins.
hell. it's what i spank to when i have free time. baaaaahhhhh
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let me chuck our plugins into the bag for you to look at.
INSTANT DEMO www.uniqueplugins.com guess what? They are unique and surfers STAY because of them.
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Mutt
Thank you for the nice props!!!!!! Let us know if you need anything. Erin
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Btw, and what do you all think about live cam feeds ? Not streams sure, only pure live ? Imho it's not bad for webmasters ? or not ?
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Mutt,
Sorry for the lag on access. We just moved over to Mike at Phatservers and my programmer might not have connected the test drive. The entire program and feeds are live so hit me up by email and I can get you access. email me at [email protected] and I can give you free access. If you are interested in signing up, I can give you the rest of this month free and start your billing on the first. Mario
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Thanks for the vouch Hooper! It's good to see that all my sweating and bleeding and selling my soul makes people happy.
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One advantage of being a designer is I get to draw from hundreds of people's experiences on what's working and what's not rather than just my own corner of the world. What I've seen with plug-in vs. exclusive is this:
1) You can absolutely make money doing it with plug-ins but you do have to follow the "everything and the kitchen sink" approach as mentioned above. You also have to organize the content in such a way that the stuff with the best response is getting featured properly and the rest is just to wow the member with options. 2) Exclusive content helps but it's by a measurable amount and if your cost of producing that content is very high, you will have to have quite a bit of money to float you until you reach a return on investment. Also exclusive stuff is much more effective when it's MPEG content rather than pictures. So, based on my experiences anyway, I'd say that the decision to go exclusive is a financial one and that having plugins in the site too never hurts. You can make plenty of money with no exclusive content but you will make more if you have it. So if you're budget is smaller or you can't find a way to shoot exclusive stuff cheaply, start with plugins and reinvest earnings until you can add some exclusive stuff. If you can instead find a way to shoot your own material right from the start, do everything you can to make it cost effective or be prepared to need a good sum of money to float you until you turn profit. Final comment: I do keep data wherever possible on user response to plug-ins so if you want to find out which ones I'm seeing are having the greatest impact on retention , shoot me an email.
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