Black innovation?

[Odin88]

Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant to the building of civilization, campaigns are spreading across America attempting to credit black "inventors" with certain inventions. One such campaign is promoted by IBM who offers a poster of "Famous Black Inventions." Included on this poster are pictures of blacks and their supposed inventions - including the traffic light.

While the black Garrett A. Morgan did submit and receive a patent for a traffic signal in 1923, he did not invent the traffic light. The first "traffic light" was created in London in 1868, used to control the traffic of pedestrians and buggies. It was illuminated by gas using green and red colors, and was manually operated by policemen who turned a lever to reveal the appropriate color to the appropriate lane of traffic. Railroads were already using a lighting system as well. It was a police officer, William Potts, who first improved on the gas-light invention, which required a police officer to operate. William Potts recognized the need for something better when he observed that police officers were spending much of their time directing traffic after the invention of the automobile. He created an electric lighting system using red, amber, and green to control automobile traffic in Detroit. It was first used in 1920 and was the herald of the modern traffic light. William Potts was not black. Garrett A. Morgan's traffic light of 1923 did not contribute significantly to the traffic light of today, but resembled train switching lights already in use.

When reading these lists of so-called inventions, which are especially prevalent on the Internet, it becomes painfully obvious the lies contained within those lists. These lists are especially popular on college campuses. Afrocentrism is the term used to describe the attempts to cover-up the truth of history by spreading lies which claim that the blacks of Africa actually created civilization. This ridiculous theory is being taught in many schools and even universities. Many college graduates think they are being intelligent when they state that without H. A. Jackson, we wouldn't have a kitchen table, which he "invented" on October 6, 1896. This is how ridiculous these lists have become. I am sure that the kitchen table was invented centuries ago, although I don't believe the blacks in Africa were furnishing their mud huts with kitchen tables. H.A. Jackson may have submitted an idea for a patent which was a special modification of the kitchen table, but he certainly did not invent it, and neither did his patent have any significance on the civilization of the world. This is also true for W. R. Davis, Jr., who is credited with inventing the library table - in 1878!

What many are doing is obtaining patent lists of blacks and then attempting to pass them off as inventions. Most of what these people are doing is taking a certain invention, modifying it in some way, and then patenting that modification. In other words, they are not patenting original creations. Many are just outright lying. One list credits Sarah Boone, a female black, with the invention of the ironing board in 1892. White people were ironing clothes on ironing boards long before 1892.

J. Standard, another black, is credited with inventing the refrigerator in 1891. Yet, the truth of history reveals this is another lie. William Cullen demonstrated the first known artificial refrigeration at the University of Glasgow in 1748. In 1805, Oliver Evans, an American, designed the first refrigeration machine, and in 1844, John Gorrie used this design to build a refrigerator which he used to cool the air for his patients suffering from yellow fever. This all happened well before J. Standard ever submitted his patent. Furthermore, the concept of refrigeration was known by whites long before the first artificial devices were ever created.

The lists go on and on. One credits the invention of the two-stroke gasoline engine in 1950 and the internal combustion engine in 1958 to a black, Frederick M. Jones. The truth is that thermal engines were created as long ago as the 1600's by whites. Almost one hundred years before Frederick M. Jones, N. Otto developed the first successful four-stroke spark ignition gasoline engine in the 1870's. The same year, Dougald Clerk built the first successful two-stroke engine, which remains in use today. The first person to actually experiment with the internal combustion engine was a Dutchman, Christian Huygens, who did so in 1680. Most of the modern gasoline engines are descendants of Gottlieb Daimler's creation of 1885. For those who don't know this, Daimler was a German. Frederick M. Jones is also credited with the invention of the starter generator in 1949; however, electric ignitions had already been introduced in 1924. On the same note, another black, Andrew J. Beard, is credited with inventing the rotary engine in 1892. This is completely unfounded. The first practical rotary engine was created by a German, Felix Wankel, in 1927.

On a lighter note, Lydia O. Newman, a black, is credited with inventing the hairbrush in the late 1800's, despite the fact that white women have been brushing their hair for centuries. Burridge and Marshman supposedly invented the typewriter in 1885, despite the fact that Remington and Sons had already been selling the typewriter since 1874, and the original machine was created in 1868 by Christopher Latham Sholes. The initial typewriter did not have lowercase letters, but the shift key of the Number 2 typewriter, manufactured by Remington in 1878, allowed for lowercase letters. Other claims include riding saddles, which were supposedly invented by W. D. Davis in 1895. Again, this is claimed despite the fact that riding saddles were in use long before 1895, primarily by whites.

Another famous claim is that a black, Paul Williams, invented the helicopter. Again, a little research will prove this to be false. The fact is that no one person "invented" the helicopter. However, Leonardo da Vinci did pen down his own version of a helicopter long before Paul E. Williams was born. Furthermore, the first successful lift-off of a helicopter was accomplished in 1907 by a Frenchman, Paul Cornu, and Etienne Oehmichen, another Frenchman, was able to fly a helicopter 1 kilometer in 1924. This flight lasted 7 minutes and 40 seconds. From that moment, white engineers advanced and perfected the helicopter, and in 1937 the first practical helicopter was introduced. Not surprisingly, this first practical helicopter was a German creation - the Focke-Wulf Fw 61. Igor Sigorsky, a Russian, is credited with many innovations and record setting flights after this time which greatly enhanced helicopter engineering.

Perhaps one of the most ridiculous claims is that a black, W. A. Lavallette, invented the printing press, which he had patented in America. This was undoubtedly news to Gutenberg, who had already invented the printing press in 1445, long before America was even a country and almost fifty years before Columbus even landed.

The list goes on and on, and each and every so-called "invention" can be refuted in a similar manner, from the biscuit cutter (A. P. Ashbourne, 1875) to the "portable shield for infantry" (H. Spears, 1870). Anyone familiar with history should be aware that whites have been using devices to cut out biscuits long before A. P. Ashbourne, and I am sure that Roman soldiers from the first century never went into battle without a "portable shield for infantry." Michael Harney, another black, is credited with inventing the lantern. Why not credit him with inventing light or fire? Again, these claims are so ridiculous as to boggle the mind, yet many Americans blindly accept what they are being told as truth - white or black. What is worse, children are being taught these lies in schools supported by our tax money. There are also federally funded "black history" museums throughout the country spreading such lies.

Even the claim that the mulatto George Washington Carver invented peanut butter is false. The truth is that early civilizations often crushed peanuts into paste and Civil War soldiers ate "peanut porridge." As far as modern peanut butter is concerned, a St. Louis physician encouraged a food company owner to produce and sell peanut butter in 1890 to individuals who had difficulty chewing food. The physician had experimented with grinding peanuts and recognized peanut paste to be highly nutritious. Bayle, the owner of the food company, sold peanut butter for 6 cents per pound. Additionally, the first patent for peanut butter was obtained by John Harvey Kellogg, another physician experimenting with sources of protein for his patients. George Washington Carver didn't even begin his "peanut research" until 1903. Most of the so-called black inventors are mulattos like George Washington Carver, and do not deserve to be called black anyway.

[Odin88]

Lies such as these are harmful not only to whites, but to blacks as well. Black children are armed with such flimsy lies which are easily torn down, and white children are taught to appreciate so-called "black culture" as being better than "white culture." White children are no longer allowed to be proud of their heritage, which is full of white men and women who have built nations, constructed civilizations, and who have contributed to a full history of art and science.

While many of the claims stated above are almost comedic in their absurdity, it is no laughing matter when lies such as these are spread. Some promoters of so-called "black inventions" go so far as to claim that blacks created, among other things, civilization, chess, medicine, paper and the alphabet. Liars use the fact that early white civilizations created some of these things on the continent of Africa. Thus, they state that "Africans" invented all of these. While the geological identification may be correct in some instances, the race is certainly not. It is a well-known fact of history that Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and so on were white people who created their respective civilizations. Cleopatra was not black, and neither was Marc Antony. Both were very clearly white people who bore no resemblance to the blacks or mongrels we see in America today. Alexander the Great was a white man, though he may have visited the continent of Africa. The builders of the pyramids were certainly not kin to the mud-hut builders of the desert. Socrates, Hippocrates, Plato, and so on were also certainly not blacks. Even Ethiopia was once a nation of white people, ruled by white kings and queens, until only recently when the blacks took over. These are all facts of history and easily verifiable, especially when one has the ability to read the historians of the time, who were, once again, also white. Unfortunately, most of these great nations toppled in the wake of the plague of mongrelization, a story which has been repeated in every great nation founded by white men throughout history.

All of these attempts to change history and discredit white culture are merely the beginning when it comes to the deviousness of the mongrel mind. Martin Bernal of Cornell University attempted to rewrite history over a decade ago with his books: Black Athena The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization 1: The Fabrication of Ancient Greece 1785-1985 (London: Free Association Books. and New Brunswick: Rutgers University: 1987) and Black Athena 2: The Archaeological and Documentary Evidence (London, Free Association Books; New Brunswick: Rutgers University:1991).

Bernal's works attempted to credit black Africans with the creation of the Greek Civilization and therefore western civilization in general. The works were easily refuted by leading Classicists and experts, yet Bernal's "work" continues to garner unwarranted attention. Bernal's work consists of trying to prove an Egyptian-Phoenician influence on Greek Classical culture. Even if his interpretation of history were correct, which it is not, it is certainly not correct to state that the ancient Egyptian and Phoenician civilizations were created by Negroes. Bernal's books are simply extensions of an earlier work and an on-gong attempt to change the truth of history. In 1954, George G.M. James published a book entitled Stolen Legacy, which offers no proof for his claims of African influence on Greek philosophy. In one argument, he states:
"[The Greeks] did not possess the native ability essential to the development of philosophy ... the Greeks were not the authors of Greek philosophy, but the Black people of North Africa, the Egyptians."
Again, his claims that the Hellenists stole their philosophical ideas from the Africans are unfounded. Even more unfounded, however, is that the "Black people of North Africa" were the same creators of the Egyptian civilization. The builders of the pyramids and Egyptian rulers were most certainly white. Even Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek, whose family went to extreme lengths to preserve their Greek racial line, even to the point of incest.

Two other works have been written refuting Bernal's claims. The first, Not Out of Africa by Mary R. Lefkowitz easily discredits Black Athena. More recently, Black Athena Revisited, Edited by Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, offers over 500 pages of proof written by numerous scholars against "Afrocentrist" claims of the black creation of civilization. One popular claim is that Aristotle and Alexander raided the library at Alexandria (which is in Egypt) and that was where they stole their ideas from the Egyptian civilization and that Aristotle was black. This, of course, is utterly ridiculous for several reasons. First of all, the library at Alexandria was not built until at least 25 years after Aristotle's death. Secondly, this library was assembled by a Greek student of Aristotle, Demetrius, and contained books written almost entirely in Greek. Thirdly, the city of Alexandria, though located in Egypt, was by no means an "Egyptian" city. It was the ruling center of the Ptolemies, the Macedonian Greek family of which Cleopatra was a member. It was even designed by a Greek architect. The name of the city was, of course, taken from the Greek ruler, Alexander the Great. Even the colony of white Judeans living in Alexandria, which numbered over 1,000,000, were a Greek-speaking people, as recorded in Philo.

[quiet]

i like jazz

[Herb Kornfield]

Many innovations have been kept down by those in power regardless of color.

Many more are still to come once we can all work together

[Corleone]

too lazy to read the text ;) bzut looks interesting

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by quiet
i like jazz

thanks for the quick summary, me too !!

[rooster]

heres condensed version

<img src="http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/cartoons/heritage.jpg">

[Matt_WildCash]

Yes its called anti-Racism and every white country has it.

[Undutchable]

Originally posted by rooster
heres condensed version

<img src="http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/cartoons/heritage.jpg">

Yes its called anti-Racism and every white country has it.

Looking at that picture, it's needed too. Maybe not with covered lies though, the truth will serve just right.

Fuck all this negative bullshit. You wanna uncover the truth about some alleged black inventions? Why not post some real black inventions and contributions along with it then.

[Bobby Vicious]

I see you've been busy. Don't let that list fool you. I posted it yesterday to see the kind of reaction it would bring. Now I see. Anyone with half a brain knows it's very inacurate even at a first glance.

#2 Elisha Otis(Sound Familiar?) invented the Elevator.
#3 What the hell is a Super Charge System? Do you mean a SuperCharger? There are various types of Superchargers. None were invented by the person who is named. BTW 98% of all cars do not come with anytype of supercharging.
#4 Mass transit existed before and after the existance of the trolley.
#5 Streetsweeper? What they didn't have brooms?
# 8 I know of at least 3 different types of lawn sprinklers. Did he invent them all.
#9 Willis Carrier invented the Air-conditioner
#10 The Comb? How stupid is that? They have found combs in artifacts dating back 1000's of years.
#11 the first Refridegerator was invented in 1805 by Oliver Evans. The first practical Refridegerator was invented by Jacob Perkins.

Ever heard of the drive -by? Isn't that a black invention?

We should all be very proud of our race,and always make a point to defend ourselves whenever anyone says something deragatory or "RACIST"! I'm talking about the HUMAN RACE! Next "Clingon" who says that we Humans all "Look Alike",I,m gonna set my "phazer" to "VAPORIZE"!"Beam me up "Scotty",

[Odin88]

For those of you who degrade my posting with cheap one-liners, why can't you comment on the essay? Are you afraid of the truth?

You should be OUTRAGED over the fact that the UNITES STATES of AMERICA is feeding BLATANT LIES into your children in order to "boost Black self-confidence," as if they haven't enough already! What is wrong with you?

[blazin]

Originally posted by Odin88
For those of you who degrade my posting with cheap one-liners, why can't you comment on the essay? Are you afraid of the truth?

Do you yourself have the mental ability to comment on this work, beyond your obvious adeptness with cut & paste?

Just wondering.................

[GeXus]

i have to pee pee

[Drake]

There have been fabrications but they come from all sides. It is true that many historians of past and present try to rewrite the past. Remember that the victors' version of history is always different than the defeated (American history text books look very different from German history text books).

One interesting thing that you should note: Inventions, including some of those of blacks, were 'stolen' in early American history. Sometimes records were kept, other times they weren't. Remember, this was a time when many blacks were slaves with no civil liberties or rights. If you had the best idea or invention in the world, it's unlikely you would ever get credit for it, in the text books (or any recorded version of history).

All races have contributed to modern civilization. One may argue some have more than others (maybe, maybe not), and if that makes one more proud than that's fine. But, don't feel compelled to denegrate other races while doing so.

It just makes everybody who is a member of your race ashamed of you.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by blazin


Do you yourself have the mental ability to comment on this work, beyond your obvious adeptness with cut & paste?

Just wondering.................

Do you want a comment from me? Alright. The essay has pretty much debunked some of the blatant lies of the anti-Whites, and anti-Whites are too afraid to challenge it, knowing that their technique of reaching out to the public is repetition, repetition and repetition of a lie until it is commonly accepted as a hard fact by the docile masses of self-hating Whites and ignorant non-Whites.

They teach these lies in Universities and in institutions of innocent children, on the tax money of White America even, doesn't that make you think?

Do you want the blue pill or the red pill?

[Drake]

Originally posted by Odin88


They teach these lies in Universities and in institutions of innocent children, on the tax money of White America even, doesn't that make you think?

And you live in freedom in the US on the backs of many Black Americans over in places like Iraq who are fighting and dying to protect your liberties. Something to think about when you're paying your taxes.

Just for the sake of stats, 50% of females in the US army are black and their is a higher proportion of black men to white men in the army.

[jas1552]

If you're not more careful people might start to think you're a racist.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Mike33
There have been fabrications but they come from all sides. It is true that many historians of past and present try to rewrite the past. Remember that the victors' version of history is always different than the defeated (American history text books look very different from German history text books).

One interesting thing that you should note: Inventions, including some of those of blacks, were 'stolen' in early American history. Sometimes records were kept, other times they weren't.

And where is the evidence for this? I could just as easily say that Whites invented everything, yes everything, there was to invent in this world, and that other races "stole" it. Of course, I don't, as I prefer to stick to something called facts.

Originally posted by Mike33
One may argue some have [contributed to modern civilization] more than others (maybe, maybe not), and if that makes one more proud than that's fine.

Maybe? MAYBE? No race can even remotely compare to the creativity and genius of the Caucasian and Asian races.

Originally posted by Mike33
But, don't feel compelled to denegrate other races while doing so.

But don't you see? It is THEY who are "compelled to denigrate other races!" They denigrate us when they take credit for OUR inventions (and pass it off to students and children as hard facts, even)! We MUST be allowed to speak up against this! Do you disagree?

[John3]

black innovation?

ebonics

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Mike33


And you live in freedom in the US on the backs of many Black Americans over in places like Iraq who are fighting and dying to protect your liberties. Something to think about when you're paying your taxes.

Just for the sake of stats, 50% of females in the US army are black and their is a higher proportion of black men to white men in the army.

No, I don't, you filthy liar. I live in a country which has been White territory ever since the last ice-age. What is it with the presumptions around here?

[Amputate Your Head]

finally got your username approved I see....

welcome back White Pride.

fucking nazi.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by John3
black innovation?

ebonics

Next thing you know, they might invent negromatics... And I mean that too. The blind afrocentricism has really gone too far.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
finally got your username approved I see....

welcome back White Pride.

fucking nazi.

I have never owned the username "White Pride."

I feel I should elaborate on a matter, though. I am borrowing a friend's GFY account, and IP checks can confirm that. So bear no hostility towards Odin88 from Australia for my posts.

On a second thought, if you bear hostility towards me for threatening your blissful ignorance, you are the one with issues, and as the priviledged groups say, "deal with it."

[John3]

Originally posted by Odin88


Next thing you know, they might invent negromatics... And I mean that too. The blind afrocentricism has really gone too far.

I agree with your sentiments, as I think the entire idea of PC, race-based admissions/employment, etc. has gone entirely too far.

But it's applicable across the entire racial spectrum. Caucasians included, where applicable.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Odin88


I have never owned the username "White Pride."

I feel I should elaborate on an issue, though. I am borrowing a friend's GFY account, and IP checks can confirm that. So bear no hostility towards Odin88 from Australia for my posts.

On a second thought, if you bear hostility towards me for threatening your blissful ignorance, you are the one with issues, and as the priviledged groups say, "deal with it."

Ask me if I fucking care douchebag... go ahead... ask me.

You're the same fucking asshat that posted as 'White Pride', whether you owned the account or not.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by John3

I agree with your sentiments, as I think the entire idea of PC, race-based admissions/employment, etc. has gone entirely too far.

But it's applicable across the entire racial spectrum. Caucasians included, where applicable.

Agreed.

But, for novelty if nothing else, would you care to elaborate on "Caucasians included, where applicable?"

[Bobby Vicious]

... and then the Black Man who is created in the likeness of God will rise up against his oppressors and rule the Earth until the Son of Man returns.

BLACK POWER BLACK POWER BLACK POWER BLACKPOWER

[Drake]

Originally posted by Odin88


Agreed.

But, for novelty if nothing else, would you care to elaborate on "Caucasians included, where applicable?"

He's referring to Acacia, an organization of white men who sit around trying to find an easy way to screw everybody (white and black) out of earnings instead of having a real job.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


Ask me if I fucking care douchebag... go ahead... ask me.

You're the same fucking asshat that posted as 'White Pride', whether you owned the account or not.

No. In fact, I didn't know that there was a GFY user named "White Pride" at all. Would you care to prove your presumptious and unfounded claims? No, I guess not. You are just a big-mouthed spouter of utter lies, [sarcasm]you can't even prove that the earth is round[/sarcasm].

[John3]

Originally posted by Odin88


Agreed.

But, for novelty if nothing else, would you care to elaborate on "Caucasians included, where applicable?"

as you know, that would be reverse

[John3]

Originally posted by Mike33


He's referring to Acacia, an organization of white men who sit around trying to find an easy way to screw everybody (white and black) out of earnings instead of having a real job.

but I like his answer better

[Odin88]

Originally posted by John3

but I like his answer better

Wait a minute. The particular issue in that sub-discussion was the extremist laws that gives massive benefits to non-Whites just because they are non-Whites, when the ideal is that everybody should rise based on individual capacity. How does a legal company, presumed to be White, even begin to compare?

[John3]

Originally posted by Odin88


Wait a minute. The particular issue in that sub-discussion was the extremist laws that gives massive benefits to non-Whites just because they are non-Whites, when the ideal is that everybody should rise based on individual capacity. How does a legal company, presumed to be White, even begin to compare?

he presumed then to be white, not me.

I figure they are all ambulance-chasing scumbag attorneys.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Odin88
How does a legal company, presumed to be White, even begin to compare?

Because most of us, white or black, use experience and reality as our guide when we assume that a US based corporation that has patents on sophisticated technology would almost most definitely be white-owned.

They're attempting to use the laws of the land to benefit them, the same way many other companies and institutions (of which whites have a monopoly of ownership) have.

I suppose it all depends on what you perceive to be "extremist laws" that benefit one racial group substantially over another.

[playa]

My thing is why do people have to get so defensive. Must of struck a nerve to feel inferior for a second and try to discredit it as quick as possible.

[John3]

Originally posted by playa
My thing is why do people have to get so defensive. Must of struck a nerve to feel inferior for a second and try to discredit it as quick as possible.

you obviously haven't dealt with lawsuits too often

[Drake]

Odin, for the record, I think that many people agree with you on some aspects (myself included).

I don't like to read untrue versions of history and we all want clear facts. Any type of racism is wrong, by whites or blacks or anybody else.

The only issue anybody would have with you is the extreme view you seem to take. Your post seems to come across like, 'all blacks suck and they haven't contributed anything'. It's when a person takes such a lopsided stance that people get weary of your intentions and question how much you've really thought about the topic (or rather how many biased hate pamphlets you've read that have influenced your views)

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Odin88


No. In fact, I didn't know that there was a GFY user named "White Pride" at all.

slip o' the tongue... my mistake... the name was 'White Male'... not 'White Pride'

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Mike33
Odin, for the record, I think that many people agree with you on some aspects (myself included).

I don't like to read untrue versions of history and we all want clear facts. Any type of racism is wrong, by whites or blacks or anybody else.

The only issue anybody would have with you is the extreme view you seem to take. Your post seems to come across like, 'all blacks suck and they haven't contributed anything'. It's when a person takes such a lopsided stance that people get weary of your intentions and question how much you've really thought about the topic (or rather how many biased hate pamphlets you've read that have influenced your views)

First of, I am not Odin. I am his friend. But thank you for trying to use my name instead of adjectives concocted to induce stigma against "people of my ilk" in the weak-minded heads of the brainwashed and automatically invalidate my position before I can even speak.

Where do you find these "extreme views," Mike? I have been polite and have refrained from racial ephitets (which I find highly unproductive) of any sort. I have stood of for my people, without making the "denigration" of the historically "unfortunate" non-Whites a point.

I am not a follower of the dogma that Whites are supposed to grovel and preach against their own people and the ways of Mother Nature when discussing racial and social issues. And there are a lot of us. We have taken enough unfair and hypocritical b.s. and changes must and will be made before it is too late for our people to even survive. If you find a conscious and proud White man or woman extreme and frightening, I can but apologize and wish you good luck, because the percentage of people "like me" are growing and you will certainly need it.

[Count Mackula]

Pale face evil.

[Odin88]

slip o' the tongue... my mistake... the name was 'White Male'... not 'White Pride'

*From Australia*

I am not 'White Male', nor have I ever been 'White Male' on this forum. But if it helps you sleep at night, and avoid my friends arguement, you can think what you will.

My friend posted this after reading another thread in which I participated in - 'the US is not the worlds police'. In this thread, a Bobby Vicious, a member of this forum, made various claims about black inventions.

Bobby made such claims as a Black man, Lee Burridge, invented the Type writer, despit the fact that Christopher Latham Sholes and his colleagues, Carlos Glidden and Samuel Soulé, invented the first practical typewriting machine in 1866. (http://inventors.about.com/library/i...typewriter.htm)

Such claims cannot go unanswered, so my friend created a new thread. Your attempts to link him to Nazism are weak to say the least. In gutterboy's words you are just pissed off that he attacked your beloved blacks, yet you lack the ability to debate the issue head on.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Odin88


*From Australia*

I am not 'White Male', nor have I ever been 'White Male' on this forum. But if it helps you sleep at night, and avoid my friends arguement, you can think what you will.

My friend posted this after reading another thread in which I participated in - 'the US is not the worlds police'. In this thread, a Bobby Vicious, a member of this forum, made various claims about black inventions.

Bobby made such claims as a Black man, Lee Burridge, invented the Type writer, despit the fact that Christopher Latham Sholes and his colleagues, Carlos Glidden and Samuel Soulé, invented the first practical typewriting machine in 1866. (http://inventors.about.com/library/i...typewriter.htm)

Such claims cannot go unanswered, so my friend created a new thread. Your attempts to link him to Nazism are weak to say the least. In gutterboy's words you are just pissed off that he attacked your beloved blacks, yet you lack the ability to debate the issue head on.

I think you have me confused with someone that gives a fucking shit. Allow me to clarify for you...

I don't care about your 'debate', your 'issues', your 'argument', your manifesto, your unanswered claims, your black typewriter, your friend, your cause, your race, your warped interpretations of what I should be caring about, or anything else you care to dream up.

Basically I don't really much care.

You on the other hand, seem to care a great deal about these things, and it's quite evident that you're willing to preach at lengths to try and drive home some point. Oh I got you fully analyzed Odin... I've seen plenty of your type before and I'm sure there's no shortage of supply. I'm rarely fooled... and never by the likes of you.

Preach on hero...

but do yourself a favor and find someone else that'll listen. Because in case you haven't figured it out yet... you're preaching to a wall here. You're sellin' a bucket of shit for a quarter and I'm not buying any today.

[Mr.Fiction]

More anti-American liberal lies.

[Odin88]

I don't care about your 'debate', your 'issues', your 'argument', your manifesto, your unanswered claims, your black typewriter, your friend, your cause, your race, your warped interpretations of what I should be caring about, or anything else you care to dream up.

I think that your little post would be better suited aimed towards Bobby - the one who made various claims, which were based on race, that were quite obviously lies.

I am sorry but when someone makes claims that are made up of various lies, whether it be about America in general, Blacks or Whites, someone should always attempt to set the story straight.

If you do not wish to hear the other side of the story, and instead only care to hear the intial debate, stay out of the thread - it is that simple!!

[gothweb]

Almost all of your points seem to be of one type or another. Both types are obvious fallacies.

The fact that someone else invented a similar device early does not take away from the respect due to the inventor who created the version that we all use.

The fact that someone else invented the version that we all use does not take away from the respect due to the inventor of the first device of that type.

For instance, Carver didn't invent ground-up peanuts. He was, however, the person who worked out that if you roast the peanuts first, then the paste is much finer and the product tastes better.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Odin88
For those of you who degrade my posting

Now THAT is fucking funny ... as if you needed any help degrading yourself, or could be further degraded than you already are.

[DjSap]

Originally posted by Odin88
Your attempts to link him to Nazism are weak to say the

The username itself has nazi reference so nobody really has to put an effort in it.

[swedguy]