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Old 08-04-2003, 10:19 PM   #51
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Old 08-04-2003, 10:40 PM   #52
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How many of you have your own girls, or do you just make money from the advertising?
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:11 PM   #53
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How many of you have your own girls, or do you just make money from the advertising?
Why?

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Actually I know quite a few Amateurs (Male and Female) who Moonlight as Escorts. You would be surprised !!
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:27 PM   #54
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Ok, I am going to break down and speak my 2 cents, like anybody really cares but.. the once who know me how tough this subject is always on my nerves.

Bigdoggie was a previous hobbyist who was a big talker on Decadent City in its hay days, than he bought out Bigdog and started bigdoggie.

I know there is a lot of money for Webmasters in this business and I have seen many many Webmaster succeed and make more than the Escorts with their sites.

I do also know how the game is played and when Charlie got hung for rigging the top 100 Escorts on his site by asking for BBBJ from the girls many of us were glad to see him go to jail (to bad he bailed)

Over the past 2 years I watched a huge boom into the Escort Industry, you are making money on those girls, what are you giving back?

Do you have decent newsletters? Forums for Escorts? Do you donate to C.O.Y.O.T.E do you help her out with a list of lawyers in her area? Do you have a toll free number where she can contact you?

Ok I know this is a business and I know there are many guys out there who have great scripts and may have visited an Escort, and know that most Escorts are totally ill taken by the net, its not their specialty.

So if you want to do something for the girls (because without their ads you won't have a site) at least set up a section for the Escorts. Charlie did it until his bust, now a lot of Escorts are a bit worried about reviews and posting on the board.

Don't let your members write reviews (trust me on this one) if you have to have a review section inside the Members area just let them give a 1-10 rating.

Don't put on your site "Hey those whores fuck" I have actually seen that on a well established Escort site.

I know youre all in it for the money, but my could you at least think a little bit about the girls who you are selling. Most of them trust their Webmasters, these are not Amateurs who love running around and call themselves Whores and Sluts. If Escorts do that were going to Jail.

If anybody is interested in receiving my Industry only Newsletter let me know and I will ad you. I am not asking you to give me the info of your girls who advertise, but maybe, just maybe when the next newsletter of mine comes out you could break down and send a copy to the Escorts who advertise on your site.

It would make you look good too

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Old 08-05-2003, 12:01 AM   #55
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How many of you have your own girls, or do you just make money from the advertising?

I charge for advertising only.
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:06 AM   #56
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[B]Ok, I am going to break down and speak my 2 cents, like anybody really cares but.. the once who know me how tough this subject is always on my nerves.

Bigdoggie was a previous hobbyist who was a big talker on Decadent City in its hay days, than he bought out Bigdog and started bigdoggie.

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Charles Kelly was an unethical S.O.B. that deserved to get busted. He was using his site to get nookie for placement.

Review sites are perfectly legal. Using a review site to make money directly from escorts is treading a major grey area. TBD made its money from charging escorts for banner advertising which to me was a strange conflict of interest since the site about reviewing.

The online escort market should be clearly defined. Escort directories should make money from escort advertising, review sites should only make their money from member subscriptions. This keeps everything legal.
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:11 AM   #57
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Charles Kelly was an unethical S.O.B. that deserved to get busted. He was using his site to get nookie for placement.

Review sites are perfectly legal. Using a review site to make money directly from escorts is treading a major grey area. TBD made its money from charging escorts for banner advertising which to me was a strange conflict of interest since the site about reviewing.

The online escort market should be clearly defined. Escort directories should make money from escort advertising, review sites should only make their money from member subscriptions. This keeps everything legal.
There is nothing wrong with Review sites, it always depends what it says on them however. Trust me, they used Charlies Reviews to hang us out to dry and even printed it out when we went to court. So much for Reviews.

Trust me, Charlie has never liked me and never will, to much friction between me and my girls over the time. He was an SOB, but he did well for himself and I give him credit for this.

Webmasters need to either step back and be a webmaster or be part of the game with the same consequences as the girls.


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Old 08-05-2003, 12:38 AM   #58
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There is nothing wrong with Review sites, it always depends what it says on them however. Trust me, they used Charlies Reviews to hang us out to dry and even printed it out when we went to court. So much for Reviews.

Trust me, Charlie has never liked me and never will, to much friction between me and my girls over the time. He was an SOB, but he did well for himself and I give him credit for this.

Webmasters need to either step back and be a webmaster or be part of the game with the same consequences as the girls.


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In California (as should be in other states), reviews were ruled inadmissible because it was deemed hearsay and at the same protected by the First Amendment. On the other hand, vice is free to join and use them as a basis to begin an investigation.
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Old 09-04-2003, 07:57 AM   #59
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I'll just take this opportunity to say that EscortBiz pays his affiliates consistently and on time, and TBD owes me over $1,000 from the Pre-Bust days. And on my last inquiry as to if they intended to pay - they asked why I wasn't linking to them (TBD). WTF? Where the hell do you think I send my escort traffic - to the guy who pays me or the guy who doesn't?
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Old 09-04-2003, 08:16 AM   #60
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who ever got the Dating Traffic hit me up please
and check my sig
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Old 09-04-2003, 08:22 AM   #61
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Old 09-04-2003, 08:23 AM   #62
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waste of time to argue on this topic, lets see whats going to happen in the coming months what sites will be shut down.

Good luck!
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Old 09-04-2003, 08:45 AM   #63
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waste of time to argue on this topic, lets see whats going to happen in the coming months what sites will be shut down.

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