IBill I really think you should get things cleared up before every making a post like that. You ovioulsy owe many people money and by making a post like that just hurts you more than anything.

Just my :2 cents:

i love ibill

a few I would say. I can remember when some of them were saying how good and even how great ibill was not 2 very long ago. Think one of'm is....... never mind don't want to get 86'ed banned to never never land.:Graucho

Most of the talk about Ibill is unwarranted when compared to other IPSP's.

Conversions and retention with Ibill are the best of the IPSP's that we use.

And I can tell you now that I have used a lot of them, Ibill stats are not down any more than anyone elses. Today with another company we are keeping totals on paper as their stats are fucked.

that was an ibill bot, not even a smart bot:1orglaugh

yeah, i was fucking wondering what the deal with stats are today :)

thanks for letting me know.

You know you may be right about Ibill having better conversions and that probably has a lot to do with the problems they are having with some of their larger clients. What good is a better conversion ratio if you have to give most of it back the next month due to chargebacks or refunds ? I will stick with Epoch and CCBill for their honesty, great customer service and in Epochs case having the fucking balls to stand up in front of all you GFY'ers and tell us in advance what they are going to do about Visa's new rules, who else has done that or have i missed something here ?

Ibill dont have problems they have retards..

They also extorted $750 from me when i declined Visa with them in writing and they told me "i have no choice the money is gone" after they stole it from my rebills.

Anyone looking for processing should stick with Epoch and CCBill anything else is like driving a Pinto.

Fucking Ibill turds their CMI is up but try to fucking check your stats, its so slow now that it just times out. What a fucking waste of space those mothers are>

I have to agree they have a point there.

I listened to Intercept's (the parent company of IBill) conference call with Wall St. analysts to try to get a feel for where they stood on the adult business which, actually seems to be a pretty small portion of all of the things that Intercept does.

The analysts really grilled them hard on the adult biz and the chargeback problem. On the one hand, it seemed like Intercept was trying to distance themselves from the adult biz. On the other hand, they did say they would continue to take adult merchant business.

I mention this because my impression is that Intercept has conflicting issues about Ibill. As a public company, they really seemed uncomfortable answering questions about the adult biz, which is always tough problem when you're dealing with Wall St.

They also said they had laid off several IBill employees, which is probably why people have been experiencing customer service issues.

I only mention this as a possible explanation about some of the problems that people have experienced with IBill.

I think you're dealing with a company that's not sure whether or not they want to be in the adult biz.

Picture this....

4 guys sitting around a computer right now reading this and saying...

"Ummm I think we fucked up again"

"Shut up Frank *thwap* - let me aim the bot this time"

"Go go go gadget reply bot"

"Oh shit the boss is coming..."

Everyone scatters out the boss's office...

"Hmmm crazy kids - were they messing around with my computer again? What is this gofuckyourself site on my pc? Hmmm"

Picks up phone...

"Hi Mary, can you get Zach in tech support to come here - there is a virus on my computer I think"

Click...

"ha ha gofuckyourself... nice name... I wonder what they do..."

The End

bling bling

Ok seriously, who's on first?

when we were working on a paysite a year ago, i talked to a sales rep at ibill. she told me that only sites making over $50,000 per month get their own rep. shit, ccbill gives you a rep at any size account, and at epoch, you sort of keep your sales rep.

then the sales person tried to get me to sell penis pills for one of their programs. i said we weren't interested and she sent me some spams.

neither of these two things seem to me like a good way to do business.

and i've certainly seen their stats down a lot more than the average bear, among many other problems.

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Agreed.

x2

cool. emailing you now!

:1orglaugh :glugglug

I see your :1orglaugh

and raise you

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This would have been better posted in the 'sponsors lowering payouts' thread.

Ya think?

Baby you have good timing -- almost too good.

You feel me?

Wrong!!!!. Ibill have had these problems with their CMI and shitty customer service for at least the last 5 years that i have had accounts with them. It will never be Ibill decision to pull out of the adult business it will be ours the webmasters. Webmasters that work their fucking butts off to make Ibill their % only to get fucked over by them time and time again. Soon most webmasters will make the correct informed decision and leave this sinking ship . Epoch and CCbill are the only way forward and this has been proved to me many, many times by the simple fact that IBill doesn't give a flying fuck about you, they only care about their %.

hm.. the only thing I agree with is their reserve policy.

You pretty much never get your reserve back with Epoch... 18 months after your last transaction.. What a joke..

but anyway, all 3rd party processors are a fucking rip off once you're doing over $50,000 month gross (typical minimum to get yuor own)

Dont tell me Mr Cherry will take that matter in his own hands!!! damm we are safe now!!!!

too funny

Leslie who is Vivid processing with now?

Pay on time? I have waited 5 months for my last reserve payment. I e-mail, get a response saying sorry...we will look into it..then nothing. Send another e-mail and same thing.

iBill used to be good on payments....now they suck.

Just curious what your (and everyone else's) opinion of jettis is??

Ibill pays like clock work for us. Not the kings of customer service but payment has never been a problem from memberships to reserve always got it.

"iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them. "
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How can you say/type that with a straight face??

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IBill is such a dinosaur.

Untrue and unfair statement.

While Epoch and CCbill are both great companies....
Don't judge us until you have tried us.

Mitch

How do you know you wouldnt have made more with CCBill or another processor? Who knows how many signups you may have lost due to all of Ibill's recent network issues. All I hear over and over is how Ibill has horrible cc scrubbing and bad relations with everyone.

i tested 2 different processors last year. much, much better initial signups with ibill (in my experience).

Yeah right....

who else misses Ibill Kathy? :1orglaugh

Yep.