Picture this....

4 guys sitting around a computer right now reading this and saying...

"Ummm I think we fucked up again"

"Shut up Frank *thwap* - let me aim the bot this time"

"Go go go gadget reply bot"

"Oh shit the boss is coming..."

Everyone scatters out the boss's office...

"Hmmm crazy kids - were they messing around with my computer again? What is this gofuckyourself site on my pc? Hmmm"

Picks up phone...

"Hi Mary, can you get Zach in tech support to come here - there is a virus on my computer I think"

Click...

"ha ha gofuckyourself... nice name... I wonder what they do..."

The End

bling bling

Ok seriously, who's on first?

when we were working on a paysite a year ago, i talked to a sales rep at ibill. she told me that only sites making over $50,000 per month get their own rep. shit, ccbill gives you a rep at any size account, and at epoch, you sort of keep your sales rep.

then the sales person tried to get me to sell penis pills for one of their programs. i said we weren't interested and she sent me some spams.

neither of these two things seem to me like a good way to do business.

and i've certainly seen their stats down a lot more than the average bear, among many other problems.

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Agreed.

x2

cool. emailing you now!

:1orglaugh :glugglug

I see your :1orglaugh

and raise you

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This would have been better posted in the 'sponsors lowering payouts' thread.

Ya think?

Baby you have good timing -- almost too good.

You feel me?

Wrong!!!!. Ibill have had these problems with their CMI and shitty customer service for at least the last 5 years that i have had accounts with them. It will never be Ibill decision to pull out of the adult business it will be ours the webmasters. Webmasters that work their fucking butts off to make Ibill their % only to get fucked over by them time and time again. Soon most webmasters will make the correct informed decision and leave this sinking ship . Epoch and CCbill are the only way forward and this has been proved to me many, many times by the simple fact that IBill doesn't give a flying fuck about you, they only care about their %.

hm.. the only thing I agree with is their reserve policy.

You pretty much never get your reserve back with Epoch... 18 months after your last transaction.. What a joke..

but anyway, all 3rd party processors are a fucking rip off once you're doing over $50,000 month gross (typical minimum to get yuor own)

Dont tell me Mr Cherry will take that matter in his own hands!!! damm we are safe now!!!!

too funny

Leslie who is Vivid processing with now?

Pay on time? I have waited 5 months for my last reserve payment. I e-mail, get a response saying sorry...we will look into it..then nothing. Send another e-mail and same thing.

iBill used to be good on payments....now they suck.

Just curious what your (and everyone else's) opinion of jettis is??

Ibill pays like clock work for us. Not the kings of customer service but payment has never been a problem from memberships to reserve always got it.

"iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them. "
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How can you say/type that with a straight face??

:1orglaugh

IBill is such a dinosaur.

Untrue and unfair statement.

While Epoch and CCbill are both great companies....
Don't judge us until you have tried us.

Mitch

How do you know you wouldnt have made more with CCBill or another processor? Who knows how many signups you may have lost due to all of Ibill's recent network issues. All I hear over and over is how Ibill has horrible cc scrubbing and bad relations with everyone.

i tested 2 different processors last year. much, much better initial signups with ibill (in my experience).

Yeah right....

who else misses Ibill Kathy? :1orglaugh

Yep.

As i understand you are not a 3rd party payment provider so your not even in the same loop man. :winkwink:

For fucks sake iBill, you owe me thousands of dollars. Cathy Beardsley came on here promising to get things fixed for me. Many emails and 6 months later nothing has happened.

I'll yell from the rooftops to make sure nobody suffers the loss your company inflicted on me.

It seems obvious to me how good IBills reputation is after reading this post :1orglaugh


That said it only leaves me with

<font size=7>FUCK IBILL</font>

ohh and pay me my money you thieves

again everyone

there are enough people in the world who would like nothing more than to see us all fucked up and bankrupt

so keep hitting the IPSP's boys and girls. your are just digging your own grave

why cant you think about what we can do, as opposed to bitching about the past?

note - our business model is under attack!

I wasn't trying to defend IBill.

Just share some of the information I learned from the conference call.

The only advantage I see in using IBill is that they are probably the only processor with deep enough pockets to survive with Visa/MC crisis, if it continues to get worse and cost processors a lot of money.

But, in light of the other problems, that may not be much of an advantage.

... can you read: fuck off !!

... that´s not true, ibill rocks, they are for sure the industrie leaders. here are the five major points why you should choose ibill:

#1: account setup is done in less than 6 month.
#2: email support requests get answered within 3 month.
#3: you can speak to a sales rep by phone. (after less than 160 unsucessfull call attempts)
#4: loyal ibilll emloyees will sell the members email database to almost everyone.
#5: ibill does not scub, because the system is offline most of the time.

Will I-Bill get an x-box??? :1orglaugh

WELL FUCK A GOAT IM HEADING OVER THERE TO SIGNUP RIGHT NOW THEN :1orglaugh

... I see you are a wise business man, you won´t regret it !!

Crazy and amazing post! :1orglaugh

Sticking wiht CCbill... allthough I think the level ov service has dropped at CCbill in the Tech area, they still are the most stable of the bunch. We had considered Epoch very seriously, but with the recent events I don't see them as a long term players either. While they may be a good company I think they have built there house on sand. With the new Visa regs.... I think the tide is about to wash the sand out from under Epochs house.

Sticking with CBill... but god dammit guys..... Hire some techs that have a clue would ya? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Both on the ccbill and cavecreek side... as much as your BW is... you should have Einstein working there. :)

I was expecting more of a "oh yeah? Well WE won't be processing for any clients that deal with Epoch either! nah nah nah nah nah"

Checkout my thread if anyone here is interested in a non-3rd party solution that isn't a nightmare to setup/manage.

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=152191

I want to know who these clients are! I am not one of them! You fucking theives still have my money! If ibill paid everyone they owed money to, there would be no more ibill.

I MUST say that Ibill always send me the check on time, thanks Ibill for that!

An iBill rep was on the news today and had this to say:
http://www.theinformationminister.co...p?ID=612314564

So, it's some competitor's fault that signups disappear, the CMI is up and down like a seesaw, web900 money doesn't get paid out when there's a wrinkle on your end, people got double and triple billed for the Visa fee, checks don't get sent, wires don't go through, reserves never make it to webmasters and about 10,000 other problems people have had with IBill in the last year?

SpaceAce

That'll teach ibill to post here :1orglaugh