The business as you know it is about to change..... - GoFuckYourself.com

BradShaw · 07-10-2003, 01:28 PM

Change is not always bad, we shall see.

Your thoughts?

detoxed · 07-10-2003, 01:29 PM

Depends on how it changes.

07-10-2003, 01:31 PM

change is always good

Mike AI · 07-10-2003, 01:31 PM

Change bring opportunities....

GrimShawn · 07-10-2003, 01:33 PM

It changed the moment you started posting again

Jakke PNG · 07-10-2003, 01:35 PM

I'm afraid of october.

FlyingIguana · 07-10-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Change is not always bad, we shall see.

Your thoughts?

changing your underwear is always good

LeeNoga · 07-10-2003, 01:44 PM

Wouldn't go making any major purchases any time soon.

Pornwolf · 07-10-2003, 01:45 PM

Change is good. The diaper was starting to smell.

liquidmoe · 07-10-2003, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

changing your underwear is always good

What about your lucky pair?

NETbilling · 07-10-2003, 01:46 PM

Doom and gloom?

Mitch

FlyingIguana · 07-10-2003, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
What about your lucky pair?

only wear it once a week at most

$tandaman · 07-10-2003, 01:46 PM

Brad, are you finally quitting?

smack · 07-10-2003, 01:46 PM

change is good. only the strong shall survive.

Spunky · 07-10-2003, 01:46 PM

Whats changing?..You fucking Liars

Honeyslut · 07-10-2003, 01:49 PM

Change is good ! It will run off the dishonest webmasters and make others change their thinking in marketing their programs and what they offer their customers..

Honeyslut · 07-10-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Change is good. The diaper was starting to smell.

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw this weekend..

The father is standing over the baby changing the diaper and the mother is glaring...

The father is saying , " I will change it but you get to change the next tire "....

hahahaha

Tofu · 07-10-2003, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I'm afraid of october.

really?

easyfun · 07-10-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Change is good ! It will run off the dishonest webmasters and make others change their thinking in marketing their programs and what they offer their customers..

Do you mean finally everyone will realize that

SunnyDollars are fucking scamming, cheating, hacking, hitbotting liars?

Good news

Jakke PNG · 07-10-2003, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com

really?

Yes. It's dark, and halloween and all.
Also, my gut says payouts drop.

chowda · 07-10-2003, 02:01 PM

be prepared
its coming

BlackCrayon · 07-10-2003, 02:01 PM

man, all this shit blows, everyone is scrubbing harder already and now i have to work even harder to see credit cards be declinded. 4 yrs ago i was making 10 grand a month, now im struggling to make a few...

John3 · 07-10-2003, 02:04 PM

I'm glad I live in the US

greentea · 07-10-2003, 02:05 PM

change is from within

Pornwolf · 07-10-2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Yes. It's dark, and halloween and all.
Also, my gut says payouts drop.

I've seen your gut. I wouldn't bet against it.

Mr.Fiction · 07-10-2003, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut
Change is good ! It will run off the dishonest webmasters and make others change their thinking in marketing their programs and what they offer their customers..

More likely it will run a bunch of smaller people out of the business.

The crooked big guys who make thousands of dollars a day scamming will never leave, they will adjust and find a new way to scam.

The big guys who are honest won't benefit from this, they will lose too.

Who wins?

BlackCrayon · 07-10-2003, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Who wins?

visa?

Pornwolf · 07-10-2003, 02:11 PM

This is not a case of who wins. This is a case of who loses-less!?

With a little bit of outside the box thinking this won't be problem for some.

ElvisManson · 07-10-2003, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I'm afraid of october.

you won't have to wait for October.

chowda · 07-10-2003, 02:18 PM

guys.. would an email telling them to recurr their account help?

[illnet]-Jamie · 07-10-2003, 02:19 PM

Yes it is ...yes it is ....

BradShaw · 07-10-2003, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $tandaman
Brad, are you finally quitting?

Sorry, I am not going anywhere. Shaw Internet is prepared for the upcoming changes, and look forward to continuing for many years. We have positioned ourselves well to be very flexible.

Mr.Fiction · 07-10-2003, 02:28 PM

BradShaw is a prophet:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=151523

Phoenix · 07-10-2003, 02:37 PM

all this and no one has said squat.

what do you forsee happening Brad..if you will share it with us?

i think we will see payouts go down..most likely to the 25 dollar level..cross sales at least highly aggressive multiple cross selling will be gone...oh my..is there any way to keep the surfers longer....that is my two cents..lower payouts..and grabbing customers and keeping them is what will pay off...as i dont see any new great thing coming out right now

nazgul · 07-10-2003, 02:38 PM

Who moved my cheese??

Vote Nazgul

StuartD · 07-10-2003, 02:39 PM

Isn't it always in a perpetual state of change? To say it's going to change is to state that it's not doing so already?

I mean, is nothing different in the industry now than 6 months ago?

Mr.Fiction · 07-10-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan

I mean, is nothing different in the industry now than 6 months ago?

$40 payouts have been around for quite a while.

This is potentially a massive change to the entire online adult industry. Don't confuse what's about to happen with people changing to vertical tours or adding a few Flash banners.

Joesho · 07-10-2003, 02:50 PM

Make sure that Joesho is on your team...and you will make it through these deep dark times....

JMM · 07-10-2003, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Wouldn't go making any major purchases any time soon.

Cmon Lee....is that what you really wanted to say?

I have been in this business and this industry since April of 1996. Since that time, I can't recall any exteneded period where our business WAS NOT changing. I can't recall any extended period of time when there WAS NOT a significant issue that the industry had to deal with. This is simply another one of those issues.

The smart, and the strong, will survive. They will also get smarter and stronger, as they have, for the most part, done in the past.

Incidentally, your sig is in violation of the new 'get your sig within the rules' mandate. Don't make me have to turn you in.

BradShaw · 07-10-2003, 02:58 PM

JMM as you know, the smart have made $, anything from here on out is gravy and 3rd, 4th, and 5th houses.

I think we are going to see alot of knee jerk reactions, panic. After a few days, things will settle down and we will see if other processors follow suit. If not, I could see Epoch losing alot of biz to CCBill/Jettis, such as the large free avs's models. But it would not surprise me if they both ax frees as well, time will tell. Would be a good time to take a vacation for a few days!

dantheman · 07-10-2003, 03:01 PM

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

Rictor · 07-10-2003, 03:02 PM

I think I'm going to make more money. ;)

Chichio · 07-10-2003, 03:05 PM

I think you will too. Anyone that's been running a very clean ship will benefit I think.

jimmyf · 07-10-2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMM

Incidentally, your sig is in violation of the new 'get your sig within the rules' mandate.

Just a little bit.

Amputate Your Head · 07-10-2003, 03:37 PM

hamburgers

Peter Romero · 07-10-2003, 03:45 PM

And... I just altered my tour page www.povporn.com/welcome.html to reflect the new changes.

baddog · 07-10-2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

only wear it once a week at most

for how long?

HEARTBREAKER · 07-10-2003, 03:54 PM

change might bring you prosperity & luck but not all the time....change sometimes results to doom....

StuartD · 07-10-2003, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Don't confuse what's about to happen with people changing to vertical tours or adding a few Flash banners.

Visa regulations haven't changed once or twice on us in the past 6 months already?

AVS changes haven't taken effect for a few AVS's out there?

Who's the one confusing matters?

Cassie · 07-10-2003, 05:10 PM

those who weather the storm are going to be FILTHY FILTHY rich.

the time machine takes us back to 1996

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