Nice try.
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html
the US buys a few billion more than it sells to canada. As a % what the US sells is nothing compaired to the % of canadian GDP that it sells to the US.

Nice try at throwing us off with true but irrelevant facts.:winkwink:

Sorry Abdul, the REAL Canadians were just as saddened, horrified and outraged over 9-11 as the Americans were. You are a twit, don't try to misrepresent or speak for all Canadians. You speak for no one but yourself and a minority of other twits like you.

You're hardly representative either.

You're an unusually right-wing and pro-US Canadian.

Your bias is clear to all.

ruthless:

Piss of an get a life someplace!

I am neither a US citizen or a Canadian one, but just think your "opinion" is shit!



On "trade wars".. yea there are already trade wars, kind of substantial one's, going on for the past two years at least.

The US now has many trade disputes with many countries/regions, mainly because the US Admin chose to do nothing and ignore them. These are coming to a head.

Canada, Mexico the EU and others already have actions pending at the WTO. A major case with the EU is one the US know they will never win (it is a clear cut violation) and involves penalties of several billions.

"Free trade" according the the Bush Doctrine, is now being questioned by countries he is trying to deal with. The day has passed when other countries, where labor is cheap, are going to provide cheap consumables to the US. Hence these countries are negotiating their own free trade deals with other global regions. Seems they can now see they have a choice of girlfriends to sleep with!

Sadly the US remains the world's worst consumer of resources - around 24% - while it only has about 5% of the world's population.

lol, I love it when stupid people think they have it all figured out. It's all that simple, right Kman?

Um, I'm better off than I was 5 yrs ago.
Don't blame me because you're failing.:thumbsup

Canada brought $163 billion from US
United States brought $219 billion (how does it benefit US)

It makes more economic sense to buy from US rather than Europe. Our products are just as good and much closer.

From the american perspective it isn't the same. Canandian products aren't as good as most foriegn. You don't have the swiss pharmcuticals, the german engineering, english literature, russian space program, or the chinese or mexican ability to produce goods.

haha, or put another way, you socialists would all be on the bread line if we weren't buying so much.

silly liberals.

you said that the more the US is hated, the better off Americans are

how are the rest of your countrymen better off now than 5 years ago?

I'd be interested in *any* facts at all to back up your comments.

haha, ask someone with half a brain to read questions for you before you answer them from now on. Maybe they'll be able to explain them to you slowly, so you can answer the right question. He asked if the US is better off, not if you're better off. Genius :thumbsup

Of coarse, your country's probably in good hands with Bush...

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Stupid peabrain!! :1orglaugh

Tis amusing you got this blinkered "socialist" thing going - I ain't been pigeon-holed as a socialist too much!! :1orglaugh

Some news for you... I do not rely for one thing on "you buying so much". It may comes as news to you in your "US bubble", but there is a whole world outside the bubble!

Stupid asshole! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ummmm....

Specific to Canada, and I don't if you've been there, the US dollar is very strong against Canada, yet the prices in shop windows look the same US prices, i.e., something costs you $100 in the US you're likely to see it as $100CAD (Canadian dollars) in Canada.

$100CAD = $73US. So workers for example, that cost US companies $30000US in Canada would cost the company $21983 in Canada to pay them an equivalent salary with the same buying power. It's easier to bring the price down on something when your labor is cheap, and contrary to Asian countries where labor is cheap and conditions horrible, Canada as an industrialized country can produce the same quality and good working conditions. (Better actually, due to socialized healthcare).

Now here's a couple more facts.

More Than Half of All U.S. Automotive Exports Go to Canada
Canada and the United States are involved in an integrated and mutually profitable trade in automobiles, trucks and auto parts. In 2001, transportation equipment accounted for almost a third of both U.S. merchandise exports to and imports from Canada. U.S. manufacturers sold over $23 billion in motor vehicle parts, engines and engine parts, and $13 billion worth of automobiles and trucks to Canada. The United States bought $40 billion worth of autos and trucks and $14 billion in parts and engines from Canada.

U.S. exports to Canada also included $12 billion in high-tech equipment, in particular, $6 billion worth of computers and $2 billion worth of tubes and semi-conductors. The United States supplied Canada with a variety of other goods, including $8 billion in agricultural products, $3 billion in pharmaceuticals, $2 billion in organic chemicals and $2 billion in paper.

Canada Is the United States' Leading Foreign Source of Energy
Canada's energy exports to the United States totalled $35 billion in 2001. Exports included $17 billion in natural gas, $10 billion in crude petroleum, and $6 billion in petroleum and coal products. In addition, Canada supplied close to 100% of U.S. electricity imports, worth $2 billion.

Canadian forest product exports amounted to $20 billion and included $6 billion in softwood lumber and $5 billion in newsprint. The United States also purchased $8 billion in airplanes, their engines and parts; $4 billion in aluminum and aluminum alloys; and $3 billion in office machines.

The United States' Current Account Deficit with Canada Amounts to Only 6% of All Bilateral Transactions
The U.S.-Canada current account ? the balance of trade in goods, services and income flows ? has shifted back and forth over the past few decades. In 2001, Canada's current account surplus decreased from $30 billion to $27 billion.

The U.S. current account with the world showed a negative balance of $393 billion, 14% of all its international transactions.

Canada Ranks Second in U.S. Investment Abroad
Investment ? both inflows and outflows ? is a key contributor to job creation and international competitiveness.

In 2001, a record $25 billion in new direct investment flowed into Canada from the United States. The total U.S. stock in Canada at the end of the year amounted to $139 billion.

The United States is by far the largest foreign source of capital in Canada, accounting for 67% of the total stock. This represented 10% of all U.S. direct investment abroad.

The bulk of U.S. investment in Canada, 39%, was in the manufacturing industries, led by transportation, which made up 10% of the total. Finance, insurance and real estate together accounted for 27%, and petroleum for 17%.

Canada Led New Foreign Investment in the United States in 2001
Canadian investors spent almost $17 billion to acquire or establish businesses in the United States, more than any other country invested.

Half of all Canadian direct investment abroad is in the United States. At the end of 2001, Canada had an accumulated total of $109 billion invested there, 8% of all foreign direct investment in the United States. Almost 37% was in the manufacturing sector, led by machinery firms with 15% of the total. Finance, insurance and real estate accounted for another 36%, and service industries for 5%.

The United States Has a Surplus in Services Trade with Canada
The United States leads the world in the export of services, ranging from computer software, to transportation, to professional expertise.

Canada continues to be a top customer, with purchases of $24 billion in 2001. U.S. exports of services to Canada rose by 3% over the previous year, while its exports to the world fell by 4%.

Canada provided the United States with $18 billion worth of services in 2001.

In recent years, the United States has consistently posted a surplus in services trade with Canada, while Canada has recorded a surplus in the exchange of goods.

The United States Has Sold More Goods to Canada Than to Any Other Country in Each of the Last 56 Years
Historically, Canada has been the leading foreign export market for U.S. goods. U.S. merchandise exports to Canada have consistently exceeded exports to other countries by wide margins. In the past 20 years, U.S. merchandise exports to Canada have quadrupled.

In 2001, Canada was the leading export market for 37 of the 50 states.

We don't need them?? Yah...right.

-doug

Rich:

I know this.. tis crystal clear!! I got full confidence in the "thing" in Washington and have no doubt sunshine comes out of his ass!

But.. tis his mouth that I was wondering about......

A "Trade War" between the US and Canada? Wouldn't NAFTA cause a few problems with that?

Also, in terms of who needs who, something to think about: In any transactions, both sides need eachother. Without a buyer, you can't sell. Without someone to buy from, you can't buy. Which direction the cash flows in isn't the whole story.

Yes, but on the point he made about all Canadians "smiling because of the USA's misfortune of 9-11" I am spot on. Are you saying you're a twit as well?

I already knew that.



And yes, on many issues I come across as being pro-US......... because on those issues I am right. Arguments such as international security and what is best for the world in general, or "was the US wrong to drop the bomb on Japan" etc, you bet your lame limping ass I'll speak up for what is right. But step over the fucking line with me and start saying that the Canada-US trade flow is all one-sided, or have a tax-dodging psuedo-American like Kmanrox saying that the US can "do what it wants to Canada" and I will speak up as well, and of course come across as being anti-American. Right.

What I am is a realist. Period. If something is right, I will support it. If it is wrong, no matter who is pushing for it, I will denounce it. I supported Bush and the US's decision to go after Saddam, but should Bush ever take his fight to the internet and go after sites like the ones I run or that of my sponsors, I will denounce him on that. Make no mistake about it.


It's really not about being pro-US or Anti-anything...... it is about recognizing truth and calling out bullshit when it arises. Don't like it? Tough shit.

When California had their 'blackout', I believe some of our power was rerouted there.....shortly thereafter, my hydro bill went up 30%......not that I'm complaining....I'm always happy to help our friends to the south if and when we can.....just wanted to give some perspective here...
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Softwood is another issue. Lumber companies in Texas cried over the fact that canadian lumber was far cheaper and in the end, a tariff on canadian lumber was implemented....good example of 'fair trade' first of all.....secondly....let Texas cut away at their lumber, and when they are done, Canada will be ready to sell it's softwood once again...but it will probably be more expensive. ;)

Wow, not sure where you live, but here in BC everyone was devastated. I saw a HUGE outcry of support for the US. I was shaking for weeks after. A hit to the US is a hit to us as well.....I supported the US fully when they went into Afghanistan....it needed to happen. Just wish they got Osama when they did. :(

Fuck any Anti-American people.

Someone needs to take charge or there is no order, thus
the US has taken charge and look at the world.

I'm all for the US. I dislike the 'blame canada' shit that's coming about after South Park but what can you do...

Needless to say, the enemy is across the Atlantic.

Clinton didn't do anything to create that surplus, or save it. The surplus occured because we had more tax revenue than we knew what to do with, ie: the tech boom. The largest goldrush anyone on this board will ever see in their lifetime.

So are you trying to suggest Bush did not create the current situation?

lawked:

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First... news for you - the US has not taken charge of the world, but rest assured, where it "assumes" some charge... sheesh... yea.. look at it - sad shit!!

If 9/11 happened while Clinton was in office, we'd still have an enormous deficit. The bubble burst, all of our tax revenue went bye bye. Not to mention the fact, that the US gov. is still trying to collect a lot of that tax revenue that the public decided to spend!!

9/11 compounded the problems that the tech boom bubble burst created.

So what happened to Bush Sr? I doubt the apple fell far from the tree.

First: Dream on.
Second: Yeah there's problems but imagine Pakistan running the world or any eastern country that hates whites.

US does run this world.

best Canada-US trade...
Celine Dion... for nothing, man did canada luck out on that one.

You ever escaped outside your bubble and had a look at other countries??

They really don't give a shit about the US and sure ain't indebted to the US. In fact, the rest of the world owns about 50% of US govt bonds and 10% of Wall Street and are getting more tired daily dealing with a totally fucked up economy!

As for Pakistan, you "ally"!! Nobody is interested in Pakistan running the world either - much the same as they are not interested in the US running the world.

Where do all these inflated ideas come from in the US? Is the education system so bad it produces such crap? Is it because you are just plain stupid? May be because you no nothing whatsover about the next State to you and hence zero about the rest of the world?

Tis clear you are totally ignorant - but who taught you all the crap that you keep spouting when you have clearly have no clue what you are talking about?

Keep watching CNN and eat some more Big Macs!

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Ease up. I'm in Canada.

What country are you in? Seems like you don't realize the military might of the US. Ever seen an Aircraft Carrier? Probably not because on 2 countries have em. (US+Britian)

The US can almost do whatever it wants right now, it runs the world.

Maybe it doesn't matter in your country at the "peasant level" but the important people in your country kiss US ass just like ours does.

This is funny, both grammatically, and even better if you imagine the accent.

:1orglaugh

which accent would that be?

Mexican homie, Mexican.

:thumbsup

i didn't know there were any mexicans on this board

can't really imagine them in front of a computer

they've probably got better things to do

Fletch XXX:

Yep.. I am aware of both the typos and grammar - but hell, Fletch, I seriously doubt they can read - so what the fuck!! :1orglaugh

I believe there are a few, educated and successful mexicans on this board, some even own their own computers.

:)

Fletch XXX:

Sheesh .... you could not be further from the truth!! :1orglaugh


How's things in UK SexySarah? :winkwink:

Fletch XXX:

And some even have an education, are "successful Mexicans" and got more money than this combined board..... :glugglug

lawked:

In which case apologies to "almost" all US people - I never expected such ignorance outta Canada :Graucho

:thumbsup We're not known for ignorance however I'm being blunt today... In my eyes the US controls this earth.

It's no big deal, it's an opinion (heh, a correct one at that).



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If you think the USA can take over the world you're just as brainwashed as half the Americans. The USA doesn't run the world, what a stupid thing to say. Fuck, when all your political views come from CNN you shouldn't be allowed to open your mouth in public.

Rich:

I suspect CNN was the educator of a few... amazing shit! :glugglug