Why the fuck would you send search engine traffic to a TGP?! - GoFuckYourself.com

eddie-executive · 07-05-2003, 10:56 PM

I seen this in a thread sounds real tarted to me. Ok if your keywords are thumbnail gallery post or tgp shit like that. If you have better keywords like big tits, or shaved pussy why would you send it to a place where they can get it for free. I am a newbie and I know this is stupid.

WiredGuy · 07-05-2003, 10:58 PM

I often wonder the same thing when people ask me to send traffic to their TGP's...

WG

maxjohan · 07-05-2003, 10:58 PM

because you get good position with a TGP.

maxjohan · 07-05-2003, 11:00 PM

lol..why send traffic to TGP's at all..

I hope you link hotten me

MetaMan · 07-05-2003, 11:01 PM

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maxjohan · 07-05-2003, 11:03 PM

fucking newbies..ok

Look at a tgp as a mall..you sell diffrent things..so they come back if you deliver what you promise and can buy other things.

I don't even need to put

on this one

Odin88 · 07-05-2003, 11:04 PM

Because you have a greater chance of sustaining a majority of the traffic. TGPs dont provide the best porn in the world, just some links to some free stuff (i.e. 10 second videos).

Now, if you send SE traffic to a TGP, alot of the traffic will take an interest in it. Those who are cheap will merely bookmark the site for their free porn purposes. Those who are actually willing to spend money for porn, will realise the best porn is the stuff you pay for. They will soon get sick of the 10 second videos and eventually join a site - hopefully one of your sponsors.

If you merely send SE traffic to a paysite, you immediatly loose a heap of people. They just click right off - even the ones who might otherwise pay. By sending it to a TGP site you can sustain good traffic, which can be used to further yourself in the future.

My

chodadog · 07-05-2003, 11:05 PM

I'd be filtering google traffic based on keywords to FPA's if i had a TGP receiving SE traffic. What a fucking waste of awesome traffic. Take the most valuable surfer in existance and turn him into a TGP bookmarker. So, so stupid.

maxjohan · 07-05-2003, 11:05 PM

PS. they start to love you and buy t-shirts with your logo on..look at the hun and other sites..now we all know that

anymore question?

James King · 07-05-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by chodadog
I'd be filtering google traffic based on keywords to FPA's if i had a TGP receiving SE traffic. What a fucking waste of awesome traffic. Take the most valuable surfer in existance and turn him into a TGP bookmarker. So, so stupid.

What he said.

maxjohan · 07-05-2003, 11:10 PM

haha..chodadog. That's what you think..

I bet some tgp's got 80% repeat costumers that find there new paysite on a tgp..

eroswebmaster · 07-05-2003, 11:10 PM

chodadog · 07-07-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
haha..chodadog. That's what you think..

I bet some tgp's got 80% repeat costumers that find there new paysite on a tgp..

Were you dropped as a child? There's no doubt that TGP traffic accounts for a lot of the traffic being sent to paysites. But if you're getting Search Engine traffic for "Anal sex" and you're sending them to a page with links to literally thousands of free anal pictures, guess what? A significant amount of them are going to become freeloading TGP bookmarkers. Take that SE surfer, and send him to an AVS site, or to an FPA. If you're taking search engine hits and using them to feed a TGP, and traffic trades, then you're a fucking moron.

IntenseCash · 07-07-2003, 09:43 AM

I have a solution!!

No more TGP sites = no more freeloaders which = more $$ for paysite owners

Sam · 07-07-2003, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
haha..chodadog. That's what you think..

I bet some tgp's got 80% repeat costumers that find there new paysite on a tgp..

What a fucking newbie you are. This is sickening...
Sending search engine traffic to a TGP is like transforming GOLD into PURE SHIT.

Keep flashing that swoit sig...

Newbie.

Dopy · 07-07-2003, 10:14 AM

Traffic and layout filtering can mean the difference between you being a 100k numbers game or a well oiled selling machine.

Most choose the numbers game.

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 10:32 AM

I have to admit that it's fucking stupid.

It's TARGETED traffic.

1- You give them ads, NOT FUCKING 1000's OF LINKS TO FREE PICTURES AND MOVIES.

FPA's with limited tiny stupid thumbnails (clickable to the sponsor) is what they should see.

2 - Also offer exit consoles. If you really want to link your TGP, do this after the "4freeprograms" console. The TGP should be the very last one.

Smart surfers will eventually find the TGP's anyway, don't fucking help those that would still be searching on the SE's.. Geez some people are morons.

extreme · 07-07-2003, 10:54 AM

Consider that there are certain things you want to do and lots of things you don't want to do if you want to keep your position in the search engines.

Redirecting people to FPAs is a sure way to lose your position. Most searchengines don't approve of cloaking.

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-07-2003, 10:58 AM

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NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme
Consider that there are certain things you want to do and lots of things you don't want to do if you want to keep your position in the search engines.

Redirecting people to FPAs is a sure way to lose your position. Most searchengines don't approve of cloaking.

Are you on crack? Cloaking? WTF? It's not about cloaking.. It's a simple html page with important keywords and you put ads in it. Bots do not give a fuck if your page has FREE pictures or not..

4Pics · 07-07-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Are you on crack? Cloaking? WTF? It's not about cloaking.. It's a simple html page with important keywords and you put ads in it. Bots do not give a fuck if your page has FREE pictures or not..

And what search engine is going to list that page in a search result?

Lets see your tgp that you redirect your surfers to a ad page.

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics

And what search engine is going to list that page in a search result?

Lets see your tgp that you redirect your surfers to a ad page.

WTF are u talking about? Bots do not give a damn if you don't have free pictures or free movies. If you rank high with certain keywords it because of the search engine algorithm and other factors.

Example : In google you rank high according to your page rank, keywords.. etc..

Do some research man..

extreme · 07-07-2003, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

WTF are u talking about? Bots do not give a damn if you don't have free pictures or free movies. If you rank high with certain keywords it because of the search engine algorithm and other factors.

Example : In google you rank high according to your page rank, keywords.. etc..

Do some research man..

It doesnt exactly sound like you have many top 10 listings for common searches.

Basically what happens when you rank very well is that your competitors begin to report you if you do any of the things Google don't want you to do.
The result is that your domain gets a penalty.

Another problem for you is how the hell are you supposed to get a PR5-6 on your site if you don't offer anything which gets people to link you.

4Pics · 07-07-2003, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

WTF are u talking about? Bots do not give a damn if you don't have free pictures or free movies. If you rank high with certain keywords it because of the search engine algorithm and other factors.

Example : In google you rank high according to your page rank, keywords.. etc..

Do some research man..

Hello!! we are talking about a TGP that gets search traffic, not about a page you made to get search traffic.

Guess maybe you are confused as to what is being discussed here.

funkmaster · 07-07-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by eddie-executive
I seen this in a thread sounds real tarted to me. Ok if your keywords are thumbnail gallery post or tgp shit like that. If you have better keywords like big tits, or shaved pussy why would you send it to a place where they can get it for free. I am a newbie and I know this is stupid.

... I know a guy that sends his SE traffic to a fake TGP (he only lists hosted galleries) ... this way he gets many bookmarkers and makes good money of his traffic too ... way to go !!

StupidNewbie · 07-07-2003, 11:39 AM

considering most "tgps" skim gallery clicks, have ads, and have hosted galleries listed I don't really think it's that big a deal.

funkmaster · 07-07-2003, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme

Redirecting people to FPAs is a sure way to lose your position. Most searchengines don't approve of cloaking.

... google/AV/inktomi doesn´t mind ... which searchengines are you talking about ?? infotiger.com ??

zzgundamnzz · 07-07-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Odin88
Because you have a greater chance of sustaining a majority of the traffic. TGPs dont provide the best porn in the world, just some links to some free stuff (i.e. 10 second videos).

Now, if you send SE traffic to a TGP, alot of the traffic will take an interest in it. Those who are cheap will merely bookmark the site for their free porn purposes. Those who are actually willing to spend money for porn, will realise the best porn is the stuff you pay for. They will soon get sick of the 10 second videos and eventually join a site - hopefully one of your sponsors.

If you merely send SE traffic to a paysite, you immediatly loose a heap of people. They just click right off - even the ones who might otherwise pay. By sending it to a TGP site you can sustain good traffic, which can be used to further yourself in the future.

My

What he said. What you do is you saturate the top listings with Sponsor Hosted Galleries. That way you keep the bookmarkers as a source of traffic and the people that really want to buy are taken to your sponsor hosted galleries...

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme

It doesnt exactly sound like you have many top 10 listings for common searches.

Basically what happens when you rank very well is that your competitors begin to report you if you do any of the things Google don't want you to do.
The result is that your domain gets a penalty.

Another problem for you is how the hell are you supposed to get a PR5-6 on your site if you don't offer anything which gets people to link you.

Why would I get penalty to a page that offers ads? I am not spamming or using illegal tactics? It's a fucking page with basic HTML.

I have many listings with no so many common searches that still get lots of hits anyway. You don't need to be in the top 10 to get most of the SE traffic you know. I am usually on the 2nd or 3rd page and they are still very productive.

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics

Hello!! we are talking about a TGP that gets search traffic, not about a page you made to get search traffic.

Guess maybe you are confused as to what is being discussed here.

HELLO? READ THE FUCKING TITLE MORON

"Why the fuck would you send search engine traffic to a TGP?! "

SEARCH ENGINE Do you even know what a search engine is?

Tell me how people search for sites using search engines? With telepathic powers? They USE keywords..

Some people are really dumb on this message board..

Rictor · 07-07-2003, 11:48 AM

I wouldn't redirect good SE traffic to a TGP...but if the traffic is looking for free porn, sure.

extreme · 07-07-2003, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

Why would I get penalty to a page that offers ads? I am not spamming or using illegal tactics? It's a fucking page with basic HTML.

I have many listings with no so many common searches that still get lots of hits anyway. You don't need to be in the top 10 to get most of the SE traffic you know. I am usually on the 2nd or 3rd page and they are still very productive.

If you create a nice ad page and get it into a searchengine then I agree, redirecting it to a TGP would be not good...

But my point is that its very easy to get a good ranking in the SEs with a TGP. And redirecting traffic from it can be potentially bad for you in the long run.

4Pics · 07-07-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

HELLO? READ THE FUCKING TITLE MORON

"Why the fuck would you send search engine traffic to a TGP?! "

SEARCH ENGINE Do you even know what a search engine is?

Tell me how people search for sites using search engines? With telepathic powers? They USE keywords..

Some people are really dumb on this message board..

Yes the original title of the thread was about why would you send search engine traffic to a tgp. Well the answer to that is you wouldn't unless the keywords were TGP or Galleries or something that actually might help. But a surfer searching for "live sex" or "hardcore sex" should not be sent to a tgp but I think anyone would agree with that.

If you run a TGP and get google traffic should you redirect it to a FPA. This might be a better thing to talk about. But is it worth the risk of having your domain banned for cloaking?

4Pics · 07-07-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme

If you create a nice ad page and get it into a searchengine then I agree, redirecting it to a TGP would be not good...

But my point is that its very easy to get a good ranking in the SEs with a TGP. And redirecting traffic from it can be potentially bad for you in the long run.

Well Said!

extreme · 07-07-2003, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster

... google/AV/inktomi doesn´t mind ... which searchengines are you talking about ?? infotiger.com ??

....
http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

read under:
"Quality Guidelines - Specific recommendations"

And yes, you will get a penalty for it when its reported.

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics

If you run a TGP and get google traffic should you redirect it to a FPA. This might be a better thing to talk about. But is it worth the risk of having your domain banned for cloaking?

Cloaking? WTF Are u talking about? Cloaking is a script that will send the bot to and the surfer to different pages for better ranking. (Bot will see a page with just keywords and stuff).

I am talking about a simple HTML page, cloaking has nothing to do with what I was proposing. I was talking about sending the surfer to a targeted FPA. If the surfer entered "foot fetish" don't fucking send him to a Foot Fetish TGP 1st.. Send him to a page with foot fetish sponsors..

I think that you are confused, not me..

NoCarrier · 07-07-2003, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme

If you create a nice ad page and get it into a searchengine then I agree, redirecting it to a TGP would be not good...

But my point is that its very easy to get a good ranking in the SEs with a TGP. And redirecting traffic from it can be potentially bad for you in the long run.

Yeah, all my pages have a nice layout and full of text and text links for keywords. I am selling them what they were looking for. I don't want them to look at free pictures 1st.. That's fucking stupid. Show me the money, if not, well, when they leave the page, I give them other options like 4free sponsors.. And the LAST console is a TGP itself. That's how you make money. It's not that difficult.

docjohnson · 07-07-2003, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Exactly...Tgp's =

07-05-2003, 10:56 PM	#1
eddie-executive Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,061	Why the fuck would you send search engine traffic to a TGP?! I seen this in a thread sounds real tarted to me. Ok if your keywords are thumbnail gallery post or tgp shit like that. If you have better keywords like big tits, or shaved pussy why would you send it to a place where they can get it for free. I am a newbie and I know this is stupid. __________________ Jealousy... is a mental cancer. ~B.C. Forbes

07-05-2003, 10:58 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,509	I often wonder the same thing when people ask me to send traffic to their TGP's... WG __________________ I play with Google.

07-05-2003, 10:58 PM	#3
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	because you get good position with a TGP. __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	lol..why send traffic to TGP's at all.. I hope you link hotten me __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	fucking newbies..ok Look at a tgp as a mall..you sell diffrent things..so they come back if you deliver what you promise and can buy other things. I don't even need to put on this one __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	Because you have a greater chance of sustaining a majority of the traffic. TGPs dont provide the best porn in the world, just some links to some free stuff (i.e. 10 second videos). Now, if you send SE traffic to a TGP, alot of the traffic will take an interest in it. Those who are cheap will merely bookmark the site for their free porn purposes. Those who are actually willing to spend money for porn, will realise the best porn is the stuff you pay for. They will soon get sick of the 10 second videos and eventually join a site - hopefully one of your sponsors. If you merely send SE traffic to a paysite, you immediatly loose a heap of people. They just click right off - even the ones who might otherwise pay. By sending it to a TGP site you can sustain good traffic, which can be used to further yourself in the future. My

07-05-2003, 11:05 PM	#8
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I'd be filtering google traffic based on keywords to FPA's if i had a TGP receiving SE traffic. What a fucking waste of awesome traffic. Take the most valuable surfer in existance and turn him into a TGP bookmarker. So, so stupid. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

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07-07-2003, 10:32 AM	#17
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	I have to admit that it's fucking stupid. It's TARGETED traffic. 1- You give them ads, NOT FUCKING 1000's OF LINKS TO FREE PICTURES AND MOVIES. FPA's with limited tiny stupid thumbnails (clickable to the sponsor) is what they should see. 2 - Also offer exit consoles. If you really want to link your TGP, do this after the "4freeprograms" console. The TGP should be the very last one. Smart surfers will eventually find the TGP's anyway, don't fucking help those that would still be searching on the SE's.. Geez some people are morons. __________________ Last edited by NoCarrier; 07-07-2003 at 10:47 AM..

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07-07-2003, 11:39 AM	#26
StupidNewbie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 864	considering most "tgps" skim gallery clicks, have ads, and have hosted galleries listed I don't really think it's that big a deal.

07-07-2003, 11:48 AM	#31
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	I wouldn't redirect good SE traffic to a TGP...but if the traffic is looking for free porn, sure.