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  • ThePornGuy
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 275

    #1

    Silvercash

    Is it over? Seems fast again.
  • lil2rich4u2
    ICQ: 175171926
    • Oct 2002
    • 11046

    #2
    I have thought it was over many times, and it starts back up again.

    I use a different sponsor now. Price they pay for not using http://www.isprime.com i supose


    hehe shitty spam, i know ... but fuck it
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    • ThePornGuy
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 275

      #3
      Found this in the silvercash forum:

      AJ, thanks buddy.. Its not over and yes I and our team could use some serious sleep. We have things fairly stable at this point but still slow.
      Come monday we have a 100,000 dollar firewall coming in that will stop everything. Being that it was a holiday weekend it made it impossible to get that hardware now.
      sorry and thanks for everyones patience... Things will be good again soon
      Mike

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      • pimplink
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2001
        • 9535

        #4
        Silvercash's conversions have always been good, hopefully after this disruption, the rates remain steady as before.


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        • BradShaw
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 7840

          #5
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          • lil2rich4u2
            ICQ: 175171926
            • Oct 2002
            • 11046

            #6
            Originally posted by BradShaw
            Isprimesucks.com
            i wouldnt go that far, im willing to bet you or anyone you know never had even a remotely bad experience with them.

            isprime is unbeatable ... dont blame me
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            • ServerGenius
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 9377

              #7
              Originally posted by ThePornGuy
              Found this in the silvercash forum:

              AJ, thanks buddy.. Its not over and yes I and our team could use some serious sleep. We have things fairly stable at this point but still slow.
              Come monday we have a 100,000 dollar firewall coming in that will stop everything. Being that it was a holiday weekend it made it impossible to get that hardware now.
              sorry and thanks for everyones patience... Things will be good again soon
              Mike
              This just makes me laugh.......really......a $100.000 that will stop
              everything......sorry but better not post BS like this there are
              quite a few people that know better and this is making them look
              stupid.

              DynaMite
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              • p00p
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2002
                • 5125

                #8
                Originally posted by DynaSpain


                This just makes me laugh.......really......a $100.000 that will stop
                everything......sorry but better not post BS like this there are
                quite a few people that know better and this is making them look
                stupid.

                DynaMite
                There might be some script kiddies reading this who will be quite willing to prove that $100k firewall worth squat.
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                • LA Mike
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 3056

                  #9
                  Dynaspain, well obviously it takes some programming as well. Basically my point was we were able to block out everything they were doing except for the huge Ddos attacks and this firewall will do what we werent able to do before. And I didnt post it here for everyone to read and challange people. I posted it in the SC forum to keep our webmasters updated


                  Everything is working just fine right now without the machine... Lets just hope it continues, I could use some sleep for as I'm sure my employees could to.

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                  • ServerGenius
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 9377

                    #10
                    Originally posted by p00p

                    There might be some script kiddies reading this who will be quite willing to prove that $100k firewall worth squat.
                    Yup and apart from the fact that a DDoS is usually traffic just like
                    legit users watching your pages......it's just WAY too much traffic
                    if a 100 servers are requesting pages on 1, 2, 3 servers at full
                    speed.....it's needles to say that those servers will go down just
                    as a $100K firewall would especially if the IP's that are being used
                    are not spoofed/forged.

                    Servers still run with a 100Mpbs network card so as long as the
                    amount of request is higher than the capacity 1 or multiple servers can handle you'll always win. And that's even BEFORE a
                    firewall can read/verify if packets should be accepted or dropped.
                    Sticking in a 1Gbps ethernet wouldn't solve that either. I would like to see a firewall that can handle 1Gpbs packets to be verified
                    real time. Especially if the packets are small request packets.

                    Unless you are able to slow down/break up the DDoS you're
                    fucked simply due the volume and amount of different source
                    addresses a good DDoS creates.

                    DynaMite
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                    • ServerGenius
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 9377

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LAMike
                      Dynaspain, well obviously it takes some programming as well. Basically my point was we were able to block out everything they were doing except for the huge Ddos attacks and this firewall will do what we werent able to do before. And I didnt post it here for everyone to read and challange people. I posted it in the SC forum to keep our webmasters updated


                      Everything is working just fine right now without the machine... Lets just hope it continues, I could use some sleep for as I'm sure my employees could to.
                      Mike no offense at all and I know what a nightmare this is for you
                      and your crew. I did not mean to bash/challenge you or your team
                      at all. I only try to point out my view based on experience. I geniunly
                      hope that you will get this solved asap as I have mentioned
                      before if there is anything that I could do to assist don't hesitate
                      to get in touch. My post are intended to give you guys hints they
                      are not meant to slag your work and effort off.

                      DynaMite
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                      • lil2rich4u2
                        ICQ: 175171926
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 11046

                        #12
                        I actually know several "script kiddies" capable of this shit.

                        They basically sit on botnets that consist of anywhere from 10k to 100k compromised hosts, that take commands and work at the drop of a dime.

                        Basically what this "botnet" will do is have all 100k highspeed bots send ping requests and large packets of data to the server IP.

                        I know for a fact there is very little that can be done about an attack of this scale.

                        The usual outcome is that the attacker gets bored and stops, or he has another need for his bots and pulls them off the attack.
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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LAMike
                          Everything is working just fine right now without the machine... Lets just hope it continues, I could use some sleep for as I'm sure my employees could to.
                          Go to sleep Mike! Your servers are working fine for the time being, you guys have been working on this for well over a week, try to enjoy your independence day and don't worry so much

                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                          • lil2rich4u2
                            ICQ: 175171926
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 11046

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
                            I actually know several "script kiddies" capable of this shit.

                            They basically sit on botnets that consist of anywhere from 10k to 100k compromised hosts, that take commands and work at the drop of a dime.

                            Basically what this "botnet" will do is have all 100k highspeed bots send ping requests and large packets of data to the server IP.

                            I know for a fact there is very little that can be done about an attack of this scale.

                            The usual outcome is that the attacker gets bored and stops, or he has another need for his bots and pulls them off the attack.
                            For those of you that have never heard of or seen a botnet in action, this is a screenie of a small one in action. Notice the owner give the command, and then they jump on it ...



                            pic is rather large, let it load.
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                            • ServerGenius
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 9377

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
                              I actually know several "script kiddies" capable of this shit.

                              They basically sit on botnets that consist of anywhere from 10k to 100k compromised hosts, that take commands and work at the drop of a dime.

                              Basically what this "botnet" will do is have all 100k highspeed bots send ping requests and large packets of data to the server IP.

                              I know for a fact there is very little that can be done about an attack of this scale.

                              The usual outcome is that the attacker gets bored and stops, or he has another need for his bots and pulls them off the attack.
                              Partly true. Ping request are often used because they are small
                              packets which means a shitload of packets causing huge load to
                              anything that tries to filter packets. Large datagrams are useless
                              because they are too easy to filter out as filters only read the
                              headers of the packets being sent in order to determine if they
                              should get dropped or accepted.

                              Script Kiddies IRC botnets can be a hassle but they mostly use forged source addresses which makes it a little easier to take
                              proper action. They can still cause a lot of problems but it's not
                              as bad as real distinctive hosts with geniune source addresses.
                              Forged packets can be traced back to their original destination.
                              Routers and Firewalls have ways to determine if packets are
                              forged or spoofed which makes it easier to filter them out.

                              Non forged/spoofed packets cannot be filtered by labeling them
                              as forged which makes it a lot harder to properly filter them out.

                              DynaMite
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                              • lil2rich4u2
                                ICQ: 175171926
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 11046

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DynaSpain


                                Partly true. Ping request are often used because they are small
                                packets which means a shitload of packets causing huge load to
                                anything that tries to filter packets. Large datagrams are useless
                                because they are too easy to filter out as filters only read the
                                headers of the packets being sent in order to determine if they
                                should get dropped or accepted.

                                Script Kiddies IRC botnets can be a hassle but they mostly use forged source addresses which makes it a little easier to take
                                proper action. They can still cause a lot of problems but it's not
                                as bad as real distinctive hosts with geniune source addresses.
                                Forged packets can be traced back to their original destination.
                                Routers and Firewalls have ways to determine if packets are
                                forged or spoofed which makes it easier to filter them out.

                                Non forged/spoofed packets cannot be filtered by labeling them
                                as forged which makes it a lot harder to properly filter them out.

                                DynaMite
                                I never realized bot hosts are forged. Unless they assume part of the IRC server host? I know when i used to go on irc, if you did a whois on me (on certain servers) my ip was masked with something intentional from the server.

                                I think this was done to prevent ddos attacks to indeviduals.
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                                • ServerGenius
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 9377

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

                                  I think this was done to prevent ddos attacks to indeviduals.
                                  No it was done to provide privacy to all its users

                                  DynaMite
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                                  • fris
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 55700

                                    #18
                                    irc is the evilest part of the internet, irc = all causes of dos attacks
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                                    • bigdog
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 6964

                                      #19
                                      its kind of sad that it's going to take a 100k firewall for it to stop.If one is only makeing 20k a month profit off their paysite, that becomes a big investment

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                                      • LA Mike
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 3056

                                        #20
                                        Dnya.. no worried bro. I hear ya


                                        WG.. thanks man and believe me we need that sleep. Had big plans for the 4th that we had to cancel. Not to mention everything else that went wrong.


                                        SC is completely normal gain now

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                                        • Captain
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2001
                                          • 395

                                          #21
                                          Silvercash has always been a Pro in my book, these guys are on top of their game. Just goes to show you how much they care about their business.

                                          Thumbs up Mike!

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                                          email: alex {at} isprime {dot} com

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                                          • lil2rich4u2
                                            ICQ: 175171926
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 11046

                                            #22
                                            Would have been nice had a thread been started here.

                                            Do a search for silvercash, must be a hundred of them asking wtf is going on.

                                            Not everyone reads SC forums man.

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                                            • LA Mike
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 3056

                                              #23
                                              lil2rich.. your sig isnt loading ;)

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