I can't believe a Patent granted for Music Playlists. - GoFuckYourself.com

KRL · 07-03-2003, 03:52 PM

This is getting ridiculous. Fucking god damn greedy ass lawyers.

CHICAGO - Netizens who thrive on listening to their music and other streaming media in their own chosen sequence and playlists could see some drastic changes in that pleasure, if a San Francisco-based company wins patent infringement suits over that option against two of the Internet's biggest streaming media providers.

Friskit sued RealNetworks and Listen.com June 27 in federal court, charging RealOne Player Plus and Rhapsody both infringe on Friskit's sequencing and playlisting technology. This came two months after Real announced it acquired Listen.com for about $36 million, according to a published report.

"We've spent years and millions of dollars developing and patenting the most convenient ways for consumers to find, personalize, and play streaming media over networks," Friskit chairman and chief executive officer George Aposporos said announcing the legal action. "Most other patents cover pieces of solutions ? not what's fundamental to the beginning of a new industry."

If Friskit wins its case, it would mean RealOne and Rhapsody could no longer let their users incorporate streaming media in personalized playlists in media players or to listen to sets of songs continually and sequentially, not without paying damages and possible future fees, Friskit said.

The lawsuit was filed days before Listen.com announced its subscribers had streamed over 11 million on-demand song files. In May, Listen announced a $.79 a download program for music subscribers, most likely aiming at Apple's iTunes Music Store's $.99 a download song file program that proved such a hit right out of the box a month earlier.

Neither Listen.com nor Real had commented officially on the Friskit action as of July 1, though Real spokeswoman Lisa Amore told reporters the company hadn't yet been served officially with papers from the lawsuit and Listen said they'd been served June 30.

Friskit says its streaming media engine that includes sequential and continuous playback was released in 2000, but changed its model from consumer service to licensing when it saw the music industry backlash coming against the peer-to-peer swap services like Napster, Kazaa, and Gnutella, even though, Friskit claims, over 100,000 people "quickly became beta users of (our) first product."

"We?ve got patents that provide the critical convenience features that consumers will pay for," Aposporos said to reporters. "Absent our patent enforcement, people are just going to go ahead and use these ideas anyway." He added that Friskit had hoped Real might license first, but "sometimes you have to show people you're serious before they realize the value of your patents."

iwantchixx · 07-03-2003, 03:56 PM

This is fucking getting out of hand! WHat next? A pattent on buttering toast from the left to the right?

Kanoealoha · 07-03-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
This is fucking getting out of hand! WHat next? A pattent on buttering toast from the left to the right?

Hey fuck you! I own that patent...
and the patent to Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwiches and all variations!

This crap is getting very out of hand

funkmaster · 07-03-2003, 04:06 PM

... come on guys, it realone ... I hate that fucking thing ... Friskit is doing something good here !!

ppk · 07-03-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... come on guys, it realone ... I hate that fucking thing ... Friskit is doing something good here !!

Yes, but these ridiculous patents are something to worry about...

Scherfi · 07-03-2003, 04:15 PM

i can't really believe that someone can patent something like a playlist. its just a list dammit!

but when it comes to streaming technologies its a different story.

FlyingIguana · 07-03-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
This is fucking getting out of hand! WHat next? A pattent on buttering toast from the left to the right?

i'm in the final stages of getting a patent for right to left

KRL · 07-03-2003, 04:27 PM

Fuck these lightweight patents, let's go big time and partner with Al Gore to get the patent for the entire Internet that he created.

Interlude · 07-03-2003, 04:34 PM

The saddest part is that a company like Real, with a program as shitty as it is, actually HAD $36 million to acquire another company.

KRL · 07-03-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Interlude
The saddest part is that a company like Real, with a program as shitty as it is, actually HAD $36 million to acquire another company.

I think Quictime has the best image quality. Play some Quicktime movie trailers. The image is like HDTV.

07-03-2003, 03:52 PM	#1
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I can't believe a Patent granted for Music Playlists. This is getting ridiculous. Fucking god damn greedy ass lawyers. CHICAGO - Netizens who thrive on listening to their music and other streaming media in their own chosen sequence and playlists could see some drastic changes in that pleasure, if a San Francisco-based company wins patent infringement suits over that option against two of the Internet's biggest streaming media providers. Friskit sued RealNetworks and Listen.com June 27 in federal court, charging RealOne Player Plus and Rhapsody both infringe on Friskit's sequencing and playlisting technology. This came two months after Real announced it acquired Listen.com for about $36 million, according to a published report. "We've spent years and millions of dollars developing and patenting the most convenient ways for consumers to find, personalize, and play streaming media over networks," Friskit chairman and chief executive officer George Aposporos said announcing the legal action. "Most other patents cover pieces of solutions ? not what's fundamental to the beginning of a new industry." If Friskit wins its case, it would mean RealOne and Rhapsody could no longer let their users incorporate streaming media in personalized playlists in media players or to listen to sets of songs continually and sequentially, not without paying damages and possible future fees, Friskit said. The lawsuit was filed days before Listen.com announced its subscribers had streamed over 11 million on-demand song files. In May, Listen announced a $.79 a download program for music subscribers, most likely aiming at Apple's iTunes Music Store's $.99 a download song file program that proved such a hit right out of the box a month earlier. Neither Listen.com nor Real had commented officially on the Friskit action as of July 1, though Real spokeswoman Lisa Amore told reporters the company hadn't yet been served officially with papers from the lawsuit and Listen said they'd been served June 30. Friskit says its streaming media engine that includes sequential and continuous playback was released in 2000, but changed its model from consumer service to licensing when it saw the music industry backlash coming against the peer-to-peer swap services like Napster, Kazaa, and Gnutella, even though, Friskit claims, over 100,000 people "quickly became beta users of (our) first product." "We?ve got patents that provide the critical convenience features that consumers will pay for," Aposporos said to reporters. "Absent our patent enforcement, people are just going to go ahead and use these ideas anyway." He added that Friskit had hoped Real might license first, but "sometimes you have to show people you're serious before they realize the value of your patents." __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

07-03-2003, 04:27 PM	#8
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Fuck these lightweight patents, let's go big time and partner with Al Gore to get the patent for the entire Internet that he created. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

07-03-2003, 03:56 PM	#2
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	This is fucking getting out of hand! WHat next? A pattent on buttering toast from the left to the right?

07-03-2003, 04:06 PM	#4
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... come on guys, it realone ... I hate that fucking thing ... Friskit is doing something good here !!

07-03-2003, 04:15 PM	#6
Scherfi Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PornStudio Posts: 868	i can't really believe that someone can patent something like a playlist. its just a list dammit! but when it comes to streaming technologies its a different story.

07-03-2003, 04:34 PM	#9
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	The saddest part is that a company like Real, with a program as shitty as it is, actually HAD $36 million to acquire another company.