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Old 06-28-2003, 12:37 AM   #1
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FUCK! I Lost $500 In Roulette

Well you know me with my "master plans to success" lol ... came up with system for roulette, and went to put it to the test.
the system was made to keep me at the table all night, not hit big and leave, thats why i dont bet huge amounts.


Heres the system ...

Walk in with $500
put $20 on red
if you win, next bet is only $20
if you win again, next bet is $20
if you lose, next bet is $40
if you lose $40, now you bet $80

Basically the system on paper is suposed to keep you ATLEAST breaking even after a few losses.

I came up with this after playing a ps2 game and seeing the constant red numbers comming up ... without fail

Well, i hit the online casino and ran out crying lol


Anyone else know a better system? lol .... i give up and cant afford the "trial & error" of these god damned "plans" i keep getting
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:38 AM   #2
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:40 AM   #3
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:43 AM   #4
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Umm, that is one of the oldest systems around and also one of the worst. You would be up to million dollar bets in no time if the tables had no limit.
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:45 AM   #6
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So you used the most famous and dangerous betting system of all time? This has been discussed before, do a search.

Let's say the odds on the wheel you are playing are 1:37 for any straight bet. Let's also say that you will only need to double your bet an average of 19 times before you win.

$20 doubled 19 times = $10,485,760. Yes, 10 MILLION dollars. Then, even if you win, the payout will probably only be 36:1 so you won't even break even in the long run. Not to mention, you're pretty likely to go more than 19 bets between wins. Have fun at the casinos.

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You had $500 to gamble with? Wow, I'm impressed!
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Old 06-28-2003, 01:01 AM   #9
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Better odds would be $50.00 on Black $50.00 on Red That should keep you at the table a little longer


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Old 06-28-2003, 01:15 AM   #10
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Anyone else know a better system?
as Wesley Snipes said in one of his movies

"always bet on black"

half your bets and stay twice as long
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Old 06-28-2003, 01:32 AM   #11
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"They" say with roulette you should stay with 1 color, untill you loose 3 times in a row on that color, but roulette is shit, pure luck. Blackjack is much more likly to make you money.. well.. if your lucky.. ;-)
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Old 06-28-2003, 01:59 AM   #13
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I hope you are only referring to roulette.
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mmhh - I've seen a variation used succesfully

stand back until 3-4 reds/blacks or 3-4 odds/evens have come up in a row then bet against same outcome again.

Of course you must have both pocket and table limit to be able to double up a few times after that - ie you rarely, if ever, see eight to nine reds/blacks in a row, at least I don't

Same principle can be applied to columns/rows/blocks but you always take the chance the house numbers might come up - i think that bit is worse in the US than elsewhere do you have 0 AND 00 - not so elsewhere.
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Jesus Christ, is there no end to your stupidity?
There is NO WAY to beat roulette. They have a maximum bet on the table so that gniuses like you can't double up indefinately. The only casino game that's beatable is blackjack. But for that you need a brain.
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Old 06-28-2003, 03:16 AM   #16
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Read again Mule - I DID say you have to have pocket AND TABLE LIMIT to do it !
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Read again Mule - I DID say you have to have pocket AND TABLE LIMIT to do it !
Sorry, dude, I was responding to lil2dumb4u, I hadn't read your post yet
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mmhh - I've seen a variation used succesfully

stand back until 3-4 reds/blacks or 3-4 odds/evens have come up in a row then bet against same outcome again.

Of course you must have both pocket and table limit to be able to double up a few times after that - ie you rarely, if ever, see eight to nine reds/blacks in a row, at least I don't

Same principle can be applied to columns/rows/blocks but you always take the chance the house numbers might come up - i think that bit is worse in the US than elsewhere do you have 0 AND 00 - not so elsewhere.
Point 1: I've seen 8 or 9 blacks or reds in a row many times before.

Point 2: 3 or 4 of one instance or another isn't even a bleep on the charts regarding the odds of what hits next. You are talking about taking a chance on 3 reds etc. in a few minute time period when black might be a million hits ahead over the last year and red is just catching up. Not a good bet and roulette odds are shit anyway.
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Point 1: You'd have to spend a lot of time at the tables to see that "many times"

Point 2: I agree - the old Poisson (and other) distribution maths will take over in the long run, but it suits the situation of the occasional trip to the casino IF you stand out the first 3-4 successives.

Again I've seen and used the principle successfully (but nothing can ever win over the casino in the long run - that longterm overrider for them is a mathematical certainty)
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Point 1: I've seen 8 or 9 blacks or reds in a row many times before.
I read once that the official record was 38 blacks in a row at Baden-baden or somewhere.
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... that makes you a loser right from the start.
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mmhh - I've seen a variation used succesfully

stand back until 3-4 reds/blacks or 3-4 odds/evens have come up in a row then bet against same outcome again.

Of course you must have both pocket and table limit to be able to double up a few times after that - ie you rarely, if ever, see eight to nine reds/blacks in a row, at least I don't

Same principle can be applied to columns/rows/blocks but you always take the chance the house numbers might come up - i think that bit is worse in the US than elsewhere do you have 0 AND 00 - not so elsewhere.
this is useless for roulette.
black jack maybe a on a very.. very small margin... using the house winning or busting instead of red/black.. but even then.. you're supposed to play every hand to stop counters..
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Can't really comment further on that bhutocracy - I have too little experience at Blackjack.

I was only saying the roulette principle has been and still is very useful for the occasional player.

Again, I stress its only for occasional fun and can NOT work long term - NOTHING can work longterm against casinos - thats the whole mathematical basis of their business plans.
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Can't really comment further on that bhutocracy - I have too little experience at Blackjack.

I was only saying the roulette principle has been and still is very useful for the occasional player.

Again, I stress its only for occasional fun and can NOT work long term - NOTHING can work longterm against casinos - thats the whole mathematical basis of their business plans.
It can in blackjack!
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In the words of Pauline Hanson...pleae explain?
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I used to enjoy the 4 number bets. Fire out a few chips on each 4 number cross and take 1:8 when they hit.

Best way I used to play, I don't have a lot of experience though.
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mmhh - I've seen a variation used succesfully

stand back until 3-4 reds/blacks or 3-4 odds/evens have come up in a row then bet against same outcome again.
You do realize that you have just as much chance of winning walking up and laying on the first spin?

Aside from some wheel problems there is no difference.

Flipping 50 heads in a row doesn't make the next one have more chance of being tails.
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You do realize that you have just as much chance of winning walking up and laying on the first spin?

Aside from some wheel problems there is no difference.

Flipping 50 heads in a row doesn't make the next one have more chance of being tails.
exactly, it aint blackjack
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the best system is ..... bet on your money only once.... if you loose that bet walk away... cause your not hurting the house..... but if you walk and bet 500 and win 1000... your 500 back plus 500 of the house... well put yours away for good... and only play with that 500 of the houses as yourbankroll.... cause al long as you play on the houses money then your always hurting them and take a chance on hurting them bad... but if your always in your pocket even more than once..... then they win.... when my family got to vegas all the casinos were 2 stories tall... now.... we got fucking rollercoasters on top of towers......
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Quite tragic. Rather than realising that the thread really will make him look even more stupid (is that possible?), it's a bad attempt to make people believe he actually earns enough to be able to afford to lose $500.
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Why would you even play a game that gives the casino a 5.26% advantage over you?

Go play blackjack or video poker if you want to play all night on just a little money. Yes $500 in a casino is just a little money.
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they have chips for values less than $500???

what kind of a cheap ass trailer park casino are you going to?
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they have chips for values less than $500???

what kind of a cheap ass trailer park casino are you going to?
I can afford around 5$ bets. I prefer 2$ bets. Winning that 3$ when I get a blackjack.. oh boy, the thrill!
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mmhh - I've seen a variation used succesfully

stand back until 3-4 reds/blacks or 3-4 odds/evens have come up in a row then bet against same outcome again.

Of course you must have both pocket and table limit to be able to double up a few times after that - ie you rarely, if ever, see eight to nine reds/blacks in a row, at least I don't

Same principle can be applied to columns/rows/blocks but you always take the chance the house numbers might come up - i think that bit is worse in the US than elsewhere do you have 0 AND 00 - not so elsewhere.
Aaargh! Do the world's schools no longer teach math or what? If you saw that used successfully, it was a freak of odds. <B>That does not work</B>. It does not matter if the red comes up 7,964 times in a row, the odds of red coming up on the next spin are EXACTLY the same as they were for every previous spin. The only way the number of reds or blacks in a row has an effect on the odds is if your bet is something like "I bet 5 reds in a row won't come up" because then the odds become multiples of themselves on each spin such as 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 and so on. Each single spin has exactly the same odds as every other spin, though.

There is no system to beat roulette.
There is no system to beat roulette.
<B>There is no system to beat roulette</B>.

In fact, there is no system to beat any game where the odds are always against you.

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Some of you need to learn about probabilities. Go back to school.

The only gambling I'll do is poker and blackjack. I'm terrible at blackjack, so poker it is.
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Is this thread still going?

for those you missed the point I say again, NOTHING can beat the casino in the long run. YES I know the probabilities of red/black are exactly the same every time. YES I understand there is a house 0 (and in some parts also a 00).

Again, the 'method' I spoke of only applies to the occasional bit of fun at roulette. It relies on the notion of 'perceived odds'. That is from YOUR pov at THAT moment if red has already come up several times you're probably better off going with black. The same notion applies to other games like Two-up

You CANNOT win in the long term, its simply NOT possible.

Clear now?
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Umm, that is one of the oldest systems around and also one of the worst. You would be up to million dollar bets in no time if the tables had no limit.
and what's the best system ?
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:15 PM   #45
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Originally posted by SpaceAce


Aaargh! Do the world's schools no longer teach math or what? If you saw that used successfully, it was a freak of odds. <B>That does not work</B>. It does not matter if the red comes up 7,964 times in a row, the odds of red coming up on the next spin are EXACTLY the same as they were for every previous spin. The only way the number of reds or blacks in a row has an effect on the odds is if your bet is something like "I bet 5 reds in a row won't come up" because then the odds become multiples of themselves on each spin such as 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 and so on. Each single spin has exactly the same odds as every other spin, though.

There is no system to beat roulette.
There is no system to beat roulette.
<B>There is no system to beat roulette</B>.

In fact, there is no system to beat any game where the odds are always against you.

SpaceAce
i don't think a lot of people here paid any attention during any sort of math.
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:20 PM   #46
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that's why I blow all my money on video poker or keno.. I know it's sheer luck. no skill, no formula, no bullshit.. just blowing money and free drinks
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