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Old 06-27-2003, 04:47 PM   #1
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SpotBrokers Final Review

Ok a few days ago I posted on here about how I spent $150 at SpotBrokers and made no signups. Well the spotbrokers staff contacted me right away and was very helpfull and friendly. They credited me some funds to spend on traffic and gave me some helpful hits/tips to make things better.

Well the credited traffic has just ended, and I made 1 signup, and a wooping $35.

So for $250 worth of traffic I made a $35 return. Not very good return at all, but you cannot judge the quality of a companies traffic from one person and $250. For all I know other people could be getting great returns from SB or the same returns I got.

Anyways, I might have lost some money, but the customer service was very friendly and helpful, just wanted to share my experience with the traffic.


Oh and are there any other paid gallery traffic brokers like SpotBrokers around? I might want to see how productive the traffic is at other companies.
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Old 06-27-2003, 04:49 PM   #2
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your gallerie probably sucks!
how much clicks did you get from your galleries??
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Old 06-27-2003, 04:50 PM   #3
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your gallerie probably sucks!
how much clicks did you get from your galleries??
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He sent Luc 20k ( Luc won his contest) and made 430 USD out of it.

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He sent Luc 20k ( Luc won his contest) and made 430 USD out of it.


Luc who?
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Old 06-27-2003, 04:55 PM   #6
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your gallerie probably sucks!
how much clicks did you get from your galleries??
Did you ride on the short yellow bus when you were in school?

I have Tried 8 Different gallery designs, and 4 different sponsors.
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:03 PM   #7
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Luc who?
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:06 PM   #8
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Did you ride on the short yellow bus when you were in school?

I have Tried 8 Different gallery designs, and 4 different sponsors.
aight

I never lost money with them even when i used top shaving sponsor, so you probably need another gallery design
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I never lost money with them even when i used top shaving sponsor, so you probably need another gallery design
shaving sponsors
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:19 PM   #11
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Ok a few days ago I posted on here about how I spent $150 at SpotBrokers and made no signups. Well the spotbrokers staff contacted me right away and was very helpfull and friendly. They credited me some funds to spend on traffic and gave me some helpful hits/tips to make things better.

Well the credited traffic has just ended, and I made 1 signup, and a wooping $35.

So for $250 worth of traffic I made a $35 return. Not very good return at all, but you cannot judge the quality of a companies traffic from one person and $250. For all I know other people could be getting great returns from SB or the same returns I got.

Anyways, I might have lost some money, but the customer service was very friendly and helpful, just wanted to share my experience with the traffic.






Oh and are there any other paid gallery traffic brokers like SpotBrokers around? I might want to see how productive the traffic is at other companies.


Guessing you got an extra $100 of traffic for posting it here?
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:20 PM   #12
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Well hell man, at least you got more traffic to play with and got an answer from them. I posted twice in that long thread about Run cheating, (page 2 and page 10) with no responses. LOL

I bought 500k of their traffic to test with...only made a couple of signups.....Terrible.

I'm sure others must have more success though.

Oh and by the way, i was just curious if they we're experiencing those issue's a few month back when i bought their traffic. I didn't want to pass my judgement about their 'traffic quality' without knowing that first..thus the reason i asked.

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Old 06-27-2003, 05:49 PM   #14
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:57 PM   #15
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Try Choker's traffic

i plan to check out his traffic soon.
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No Mike we werent -- I believe I mentioned to everyone in the threads to look in your account and if you were affected you would see a credit to your account -- someone else cut and pasted their stats showing the credit in a thread as well.

No one solution works for everyone -- I know the traffic that we have unsold in some categories that goes out as reseller traffic does very well for us.

Some categories don't do as well.

Using sponsor hosted galleries usually doesn't do as well for us personally as using our own we have created --

There are a lot of factors that go into it, and no one thing will produce the same results for every user.

We've got guys who make one or two deposits every week, like clockwork, and then we've got guys who deposit once and never again...

Sorry it didn't help you out Mr Panama, I was hoping for good results for you
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:46 PM   #17
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It depends on so many factors... a newbie webmaster to whom I recommended spotbrokers and is into goth, recently purchased 20k hits from www.spotbrokers.com and actually got 7 new subscribers from it. at $12.95 monthly recurring, it was worth the shot.
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:19 PM   #18
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It depends on so many factors... a newbie webmaster to whom I recommended spotbrokers and is into goth, recently purchased 20k hits from www.spotbrokers.com and actually got 7 new subscribers from it. at $12.95 monthly recurring, it was worth the shot.

But you have to buy at least $50 worth, so 20k doesnt add up....
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:20 PM   #19
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Is it true that choker is $7 for 1k gallery traffic? That seems extremely high considering you would prolly only get 70 sponsor clicks, so thats risky.
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:25 PM   #21
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Is it true that choker is $7 for 1k gallery traffic? That seems extremely high considering you would prolly only get 70 sponsor clicks, so thats risky.
no thats not true

$7 per 1k if your buying it to feed a TGP


Much MUCH cheaper for gallery hits.

i think its something like $350 for 1 mil hits?
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no thats not true

$7 per 1k if your buying it to feed a TGP


Much MUCH cheaper for gallery hits.

i think its something like $350 for 1 mil hits?
Oh really? I couldnt find prices for gallery traffic. Only pricing I saw was $7 for 1k.
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Is it true that choker is $7 for 1k gallery traffic? That seems extremely high considering you would prolly only get 70 sponsor clicks, so thats risky.
That's for tgp traffic. It's $1 per 1k for gallery traffic. Funny thing is, if you click on a gallery, all the headers and footer links go to trades and that's the $7 per 1k traffic, but it's the same unique that someone paid $1 for 1k. Genius on his part that no one figures that out.
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That's for tgp traffic. It's $1 per 1k for gallery traffic. Funny thing is, if you click on a gallery, all the headers and footer links go to trades and that's the $7 per 1k traffic, but it's the same unique that someone paid $1 for 1k. Genius on his part that no one figures that out.

So can someone post a fucking link to this "cheaper" gallery traffic...lol....I cant seem to find where to purchase it
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So can someone post a fucking link to this "cheaper" gallery traffic...lol....I cant seem to find where to purchase it
http://www.galleryspots.com/buy_gsc_prices.html
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http://www.galleryspots.com/buy_gsc_prices.html
Nice....thanks
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But you have to buy at least $50 worth, so 20k doesnt add up....
Maybe I missed something but I didn't see a $50.00 minimum for buying - I did see a $50.00 minimum payout for sellers though.
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That's for tgp traffic. It's $1 per 1k for gallery traffic. Funny thing is, if you click on a gallery, all the headers and footer links go to trades and that's the $7 per 1k traffic, but it's the same unique that someone paid $1 for 1k. Genius on his part that no one figures that out.
He sells it as a totally different product., I-F-R-A-M-E'd gallery spots... I think it's pretty obvious.
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Ok a few days ago I posted on here about how I spent $150 at SpotBrokers and made no signups. Well the spotbrokers staff contacted me right away and was very helpfull and friendly. They credited me some funds to spend on traffic and gave me some helpful hits/tips to make things better.

Well the credited traffic has just ended, and I made 1 signup, and a wooping $35.

So for $250 worth of traffic I made a $35 return. Not very good return at all, but you cannot judge the quality of a companies traffic from one person and $250. For all I know other people could be getting great returns from SB or the same returns I got.

Anyways, I might have lost some money, but the customer service was very friendly and helpful, just wanted to share my experience with the traffic.


Oh and are there any other paid gallery traffic brokers like SpotBrokers around? I might want to see how productive the traffic is at other companies.
Your luck you got that, I dropped $70 got only 3-400 Click Thru on a bad ass gallery.
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He sells it as a totally different product., I-F-R-A-M-E'd gallery spots... I think it's pretty obvious.
Well i'll tell ya how the traffic is, once I test it out today.
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He sells it as a totally different product., I-F-R-A-M-E'd gallery spots... I think it's pretty obvious.
I sell regular gallery spots and I-f-r-a-m-e-d. Regular spots are as little as $600 per 1 mill hits and I-f-r-a-m-e-d are $300 per mill.

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Funny thing is, if you click on a gallery, all the headers and footer links go to trades and that's the $7 per 1k traffic, but it's the same unique that someone paid $1 for 1k.
Well that is not totally true. The headers and galleries do not get anywhere near 100% click thru's. If they did then yes I would be making $6 per k profit. That is only on my own galleries and i-f-r-a-m-e-d. Instead of using sponsors on my galleries, I sell traffic to TGPs from the headers and footers. This is extrememly producitive traffic for TGPs. As far as doing the same thing on I-f-r-a-m-e-d galleries, well this is why they cost half as much as regular gallery spots. They are now outselling regular galleries like 4 to 1 now.
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He sells it as a totally different product., I-F-R-A-M-E'd gallery spots... I think it's pretty obvious.
Looks like you still haven't figured it out.
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Well that is not totally true. The headers and galleries do not get anywhere near 100% click thru's. If they did then yes I would be making $6 per k profit. That is only on my own galleries and i-f-r-a-m-e-d. Instead of using sponsors on my galleries, I sell traffic to TGPs from the headers and footers. This is extrememly producitive traffic for TGPs. As far as doing the same thing on I-f-r-a-m-e-d galleries, well this is why they cost half as much as regular gallery spots. They are now outselling regular galleries like 4 to 1 now.
I just think it's genius on your part that you're selling a surfer to galleries for $.30 cents per 1k and when the same surfer clicks on a header or footer then he's all of a sudden been bumped up to $7 for 1k. It's the same surfer! Why is he more expensive if he clicks on a header or footer?
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I just think it's genius on your part that you're selling a surfer to galleries for $.30 cents per 1k and when the same surfer clicks on a header or footer and he's all of a sudden been bumped up to $7 for 1k. It's the same surfer! Why is he more expensive if he clicks on a header or footer?
If I send 1 mill hits to a gallery with these headers, do you really think 1 million surfers would click on a link on the headers? Not even close my friend. As far as more expensive, because a TGP is not the same as a gallery. Even at $7 per k, I have always had a standing guarantee that you will not find a cheaper source of traffic for a tgp when you consider the clicks on your site versus the cost of the traffic.
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I fucked up with spotbrokers. I advertise the exactly same galleries as I advertise elsewhere.. so I can't really tell how their traffic is doing. Getting a few signups, but I can't tell where from.
Maybe next time. So far I'm pleased though.
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If I send 1 mill hits to a gallery with these headers, do you really think 1 million surfers would click on a link on the headers? Not even close my friend. As far as more expensive, because a TGP is not the same as a gallery. Even at $7 per k, I have always had a standing guarantee that you will not find a cheaper source of traffic for a tgp when you consider the clicks on your site versus the cost of the traffic.
Where did I ever say you'll get 100% click through? I didn't even talk about click through ratio. Click through rate doesn't even apply here. I was just wondering why you were selling the same surfer at two different prices and you told me, because it depends on if he's going to a gallery or a tgp. I admire that you're able to do that. That's it, case closed, nothing to see here.
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I've used spotbrokers traffic on multiple occasions. It is not magic traffic. It is about the same quality as traffic from any other TGP. Just like other traffic you must know how to get people to sign-up. One time I bought 35K and had 5 sign-ups to iteens(topbucks). One time I bought 35k and I didn't get any sign-ups. Its really the luck of the draw combinded with your ability to convert. And for your information, choker's traffic is not any better. I haven't decided which one is better for the money yet. I might do a study on this later.
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But you have to buy at least $50 worth, so 20k doesnt add up....
He runs his own goth and fetish sites and is using them an upsell and even new to tgping, that's all I know.
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Yes sir they do apply here. Ever surfer that sees the galleries does not click on these headers, so I am not taking the same surfer of .3 per k and turning him into a 7$ per k surfer. I am taking a very small percentage of the .3 per k surfers and turning them into $7 per k surfers. Would be great if I could turn them all into $7 per k, LOL

The gallery headers are only a small source of the traffic I sell for $7 per k. The gallery headers traffic is very good and worth the money because they are extremely targeted, and the surfer pretty much knows when he clicks on them he is going to another site, not a gallery, so he is inclined to click on that site a lot when he gets there. Plus any surfer with the balls to click on a header in a gallery is not afraid to explore a site, exactly the sort of surfers TGP's want.

Not being smart to you dude, I appreciate your words.
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Yes sir they do apply here. Ever surfer that sees the galleries does not click on these headers, so I am not taking the same surfer of .3 per k and turning him into a 7$ per k surfer. I am taking a very small percentage of the .3 per k surfers and turning them into $7 per k surfers. Would be great if I could turn them all into $7 per k, LOL
Hey Choker whats the deal with denying a sponsor hosted movie gallery? I thought that since I am paying for the traffic that I could use a clean hosted gallery. Get back to me because I have some money to spend.
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If Choker doesnt allow me to use clean hosted movie galleries, then is there any other program out there like SpotBrokers and choker?
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Hey Choker whats the deal with denying a sponsor hosted movie gallery? I thought that since I am paying for the traffic that I could use a clean hosted gallery. Get back to me because I have some money to spend.
Because sponsor hosted galleries for the most part suck. I only list movie galleries that are a single movie imbedded in html. It must have several sponsor links on it. I only list this type because this type makes money, I know because I have thousands like this, and they convert 5 times better than regualr movie galleries.

Why give a surfer 5 or more movies he can download for free? When you have a single imbedded movie on a html page, he can't download it, and he is exposed to advertising WHILE he watches the movie, which is the time he is most likely to click to a sponsor.
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I only list this type because this type makes money, I know because I have thousands like this, and they convert 5 times better than regualr movie galleries.
I don't think that people understand sometimes that if the clients don't make money then they don't come back and buy again.

Yeah it would be easier to just approve everything but people like us and Choker do try to help our buyers realize a return on their investment...
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I don't think that people understand sometimes that if the clients don't make money then they don't come back and buy again.

Yeah it would be easier to just approve everything but people like us and Choker do try to help our buyers realize a return on their investment...
Exactly, sometimes you gotta make people make money. LOL
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Exactly, sometimes you gotta make people make money. LOL
So thats a no to purchasing traffic for a regular hosted movie gallery with 4 movies on it?
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Exactly, sometimes you gotta make people make money. LOL
Hey is your other thing straightened out? I've heard it was but I wanted to double check with you --
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Ok well whatever, if Choker doesnt want to take my money because there are "to many" movies on the gallery is there any other companies like this? You cant tell me SpotBrokers and Choker run the show.

Ive got money, I want to list a few movie galleries that I already listed at SpotBroker, without good returns, I want to try at Choker, but cant, so list other companies.
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Some penis programs actually help straighten out the penis when afflicted by peyronie's disease. A bent penis is hard to live with. Good luck Choker.
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So thats a no to purchasing traffic for a regular hosted movie gallery with 4 movies on it?
Yes I am afraid so.

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Yes thank you so much, I can now pay guys thru epassporte. When is the thing where you can withdraw funds to your bank account coming?

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hahaha, it's not bent just so freaking small man.
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