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  • Oracle Porn
    Affiliate
    • Oct 2002
    • 24433

    #1

    %20 of the surfers got their cookies disabled....

    %20 of all your ccbill sales arent tracked!
    your getting shaved!


  • doober
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 6984

    #2
    the sky is falling!

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    • buddyjuf

      #3
      Originally posted by doober
      the sky is falling!

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      • pornJester
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2001
        • 6138

        #4
        oh the humanity!


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        • JSA Matt
          So Fucking Banned
          • Aug 2003
          • 5464

          #5
          I'm sure ccbill gets a kick out of it : )

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          • StuartD
            Sofa King Band
            • Jul 2002
            • 29903

            #6
            hi xman
            This is me on facebook
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            • pamphage
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 3569

              #7
              i've always preferred referral id links. people are too lazy to remove them to cheat you out of a sale =D

              plus its better for people who bookmark a page and come back later.
              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
              Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
              Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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              • Oracle Porn
                Affiliate
                • Oct 2002
                • 24433

                #8
                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                hi xman
                Hi stuart


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                • Lane
                  Will code for food...
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 8496

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                  %20 of all your ccbill sales arent tracked!
                  your getting shaved!
                  what are you smoking?
                  we use ccbill, and everything is tracked fine

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                  • necoeds
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 2453

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lane


                    what are you smoking?
                    we use ccbill, and everything is tracked fine
                    no... your sales are tracked fine.... but not for your affiliates
                    Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

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                    • boneprone
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 34415

                      #11
                      so how to affilates avoid this problem?

                      is there a certain link they should look out for?

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                      • Oracle Porn
                        Affiliate
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 24433

                        #12
                        Originally posted by boneprone
                        so how to affilates avoid this problem?

                        is there a certain link they should look out for?
                        Im not sure there is a way to avoid that....


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                        • StuartD
                          Sofa King Band
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 29903

                          #13
                          cookie independant sessions...

                          if you keep a user on a single domain, you can set a session base....

                          it only lasts the one visit, and it will die once the browser is closed...

                          but it might get an extra % or two out of that 20.
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                          • Gator
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 1119

                            #14
                            There's no way 20% have cookies disabled IMO. Where are you getting this from?

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                            • Lane
                              Will code for food...
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 8496

                              #15
                              Originally posted by necoeds


                              no... your sales are tracked fine.... but not for your affiliates
                              dude, this is so not true

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                              • High Quality
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 5741

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lane


                                dude, this is so not true
                                Hate to say it but that number is about right.

                                RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone!

                                Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Gator
                                  There's no way 20% have cookies disabled IMO. Where are you getting this from?
                                  At a guess, the original poster has 20% no cookie clicks on his TGP, and mistakenly assumed that it meant that 20% of his uniques didn't have cookies enabled...

                                  The majority of the no cookie clicks on my TGPs are site rippers. No issues with uncredited affiliate signups there.

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                                  • Lane
                                    Will code for food...
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 8496

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by High Quality


                                    Hate to say it but that number is about right.
                                    i'm talking about the statement that affiliates not getting the credit for non-cookie surfer signups..

                                    the way reseller info is passed through doesn't depend on cookies, (at least not on our system), trust me on this one.

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                                    • Snake Doctor
                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 13449

                                      #19
                                      Actually Lane and Oracle are both right.
                                      The number of users with cookies disabled grows everyday, but lightspeed uses their own software to track joins, they're not dependent on ccbill's cookies system, so lightspeed webmasters aren't affected by that.

                                      If your sponsor is only using cookies to track signups then you're losing alot of money.

                                      Of course even php sessions aren't perfect, nor is any other tracking method I've seen.
                                      The Doc posted in a thread one time about the internets "built in shave".....because there is no perfect way to track all clicks and signups.
                                      sig too big

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                                      • Greg B
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 7014

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                        %20 of all your ccbill sales arent tracked!
                                        your getting shaved!
                                        I was wondering about that for years. With all the ' internet washing ' thingies out there how many sales might we be losing to these programs?

                                        Once the cookie is gone we're out a sale.

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                                        • Greg B
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 7014

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Lenny2
                                          Actually Lane and Oracle are both right.
                                          The number of users with cookies disabled grows everyday, but lightspeed uses their own software to track joins, they're not dependent on ccbill's cookies system, so lightspeed webmasters aren't affected by that.

                                          If your sponsor is only using cookies to track signups then you're losing alot of money.

                                          Of course even php sessions aren't perfect, nor is any other tracking method I've seen.
                                          The Doc posted in a thread one time about the internets "built in shave".....because there is no perfect way to track all clicks and signups.

                                          Okay, I'm hanging around here more. Smart people hang out here, so will I

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                                          • Snake Doctor
                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 13449

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Greg B


                                            I was wondering about that for years. With all the ' internet washing ' thingies out there how many sales might we be losing to these programs?

                                            Once the cookie is gone we're out a sale.
                                            I really don't think those have the effect that alot of people think they do.
                                            People run the cookie washer programs after they log off for the day to cover their tracks. They don't affect your clicks and signups.....at worst you'll lose a bookmark signup or two because the cookie got washed before the surfer returned to sign up.

                                            Even if they had the washer set to run every 20 minutes automatically, it only takes 2 minutes to click a banner and signup.

                                            sig too big

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                                            • StuartD
                                              Sofa King Band
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 29903

                                              #23
                                              Just about your best bet, I'd think... is to build your sites, including your sponsor site with one main variable that is attached to every single clickable link and form there is on everything....

                                              the only way you'd lose your surfer that way, is if they put the mouse up there and manually take that thing out of the url.... or if they don't sign up then... you know, those fun ones that leave and come back a week later to sign up.

                                              Anyway, so long as you can hold their hand from start to finish, a passed variable from click to click will do it.
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                                              • Theo
                                                HAL 9000
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 34515

                                                #24
                                                vanilla cookies

                                                yam

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