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Old 06-25-2003, 02:35 PM   #1
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US figter pilots are allowed to use drugs??

http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/12/23/41191.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/2595641.stm

"'Go'-pills

The pills, which are illegal in the US, are given to combat pilots who are involved in long eight or nine-hour sorties in small controlled doses, say the military. "

...only found those 2 old links ... but there is more stuff around about friendly fire and fighter piolots high on drugs during gulfwarII ...
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:24 PM   #2
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sounds like bullshit to me

I was an army air traffic controller for a while, we got random drug tests at least one time ever calendar month. The US military branches are extremely strict on illegal drug use.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:25 PM   #3
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sounds like bullshit to me

I was an army air traffic controller for a while, we got random drug tests at least one time ever calendar month. The US military branches are extremely strict on illegal drug use.
no bullshit mate, just some stuff your government doesnŽt want you to know. we had a nice TV documentry here ... pretty interesting stuff ...

... and this is about fighters in combat ... not when training ...
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:26 PM   #4
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Why not?

Bush used some... and maybe still does.

And he is a fighter pilot.

I saw him a few weeks ago on a carrier!

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Old 06-25-2003, 03:27 PM   #5
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Why not?

Bush used some... and maybe still does.

And he is a fighter pilot.

I saw him a few weeks ago on a carrier!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

... ok, IŽll never post stuff like this here again ... thanks !!
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:31 PM   #6
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sounds like bullshit to me

I was an army air traffic controller for a while, we got random drug tests at least one time ever calendar month. The US military branches are extremely strict on illegal drug use.
Nope...it's the real deal. I saw a whole 20/20 show on the pilots who shot up the Canadians. The speed keeps them awake and alert when travelling long distances during certain missions. It's a practice that goes as far back as Vietnam.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:50 PM   #7
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LOL all the haters in this world.

#1 the pills aren't "illegal" in the US if they are prescribed by a physician.

My best friend from High School gets a monthly prescription from his doctor because of his "low grade narcolepsy."

#2 as someone pointed out they have been doing this for many years and not just since Vietnam.

How do you think men in battles were able to stay up for days on end fighting those battles. After awhile the adrenalin is just not enough.

http://area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk/infose.../amphhist.html

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/amp01.htm

http://www.methamphetamineaddiction....mine_hist.html
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:52 PM   #8
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LOL all the haters in this world.

#1 the pills aren't "illegal" in the US if they are prescribed by a physician.

Are you saying that a doctor prescribed those to the pilots???
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Are you saying that a doctor prescribed those to the pilots???
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The pilots were taking the drugs prescribed by the United States military when they killed four Canadians last April, according to US Air Force investigators.

From the article. LOL now don't go trying to say the military doesn't have doctors.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:59 PM   #10
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From the article. LOL now don't go trying to say the military doesn't have doctors.
I am sure they do: they have wounded to take care of.

But you seem to say that:

Pilot: I have a hard time staying awake
Doctor: I will prescribe you some pills .
Pilot: OK, so I will tyak e them.
Doctor: You shouldn't drive or do any tasks that ask for attention.
Pilot: Heu?
Doctor: But you can still fly and drop bombs. No danger there...
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:29 PM   #11
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I am sure they do: they have wounded to take care of.

But you seem to say that:

Pilot: I have a hard time staying awake
Doctor: I will prescribe you some pills .
Pilot: OK, so I will tyak e them.
Doctor: You shouldn't drive or do any tasks that ask for attention.
Pilot: Heu?
Doctor: But you can still fly and drop bombs. No danger there...

LOL...amphetamines in time of battle are pretty much standard issue .

What you're failing to see here is long hours of flying or marching and even fighting during a battle will create enough fatigue to cause you your concern when it comes to matters of "attention."

Friendly fire is an unfortunate part of battles, has been and always will be whatever the cause.
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:30 PM   #12
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http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/12/23/41191.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/2595641.stm

"'Go'-pills

The pills, which are illegal in the US, are given to combat pilots who are involved in long eight or nine-hour sorties in small controlled doses, say the military. "

...only found those 2 old links ... but there is more stuff around about friendly fire and fighter piolots high on drugs during gulfwarII ...
resumed: us pilots are allowed to be crackheads
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:30 PM   #13
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It's hard to drink coffee while you're pulling 4g's in an F-18...

Probably an innocent version of caffine pills.
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:37 PM   #14
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Probably an innocent version of caffine pills.
Or something to make it easier for them to drop bombs over innocent people
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Old 06-25-2003, 05:43 PM   #15
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Fighter pilots have to go thru a class 1 flight physical every year, its the toughest flight physical that there is. Not even commercial airline pilots get screened as hard. Everything is checked, blood, chest x-rays, vision, hearing, everything. You have to also be in top physical shape to fly a fighter.

These pilots arent allowed the conveniance to just go to a doctor. They have to see a flight surgeon ONLY or they lose flight status. If a flight surgeon prescribed something, then it has been researched to be safe. The military spends thousands of hours training these people to fly planes that cost millions of dollars. They are not going to risk all of that investment in time and money on something that may be a high risk.

For those of you who have not been in combat, or even any branch of the military, let me clue you in. Combat is extremely stressful. Words and movies cannot portray this. You have no clue untill you experiance it for yourself.

Mistakes happen. Miscommunications happen. Fratracide (friendly fire for those of you that dont know what fratracide is) happens. Unfortunate, but it happens. To blame the incident on a pill prescribed by a flight surgeon is grasping for straws. Calling US Fighter pilots "crack heads" or "drug addicts" is just stupidity and ignorance on your part.
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:22 PM   #16
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Kamikaze pilots supposedly used the shit too. Called them "attack vitamins".
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Old 06-25-2003, 10:14 PM   #17
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To blame the incident on a pill prescribed by a flight surgeon is grasping for straws.
Of course there is no way any pills can contribute to any misjudgement...

Flight surgeons?? I see one load of blind faith oozing out of someplace

Get real
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Old 06-25-2003, 10:39 PM   #18
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Of course there is no way any pills can contribute to any misjudgement...

Flight surgeons?? I see one load of blind faith oozing out of someplace

Get real
No, you get real. And you spent how much time in the military? How much combat have you seen? How many hours of training have you been thru?

Yeah, get real indeed.
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Old 06-25-2003, 11:07 PM   #19
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I am sure they do: they have wounded to take care of.

But you seem to say that:

Pilot: I have a hard time staying awake
Doctor: I will prescribe you some pills .
Pilot: OK, so I will tyak e them.
Doctor: You shouldn't drive or do any tasks that ask for attention.
Pilot: Heu?
Doctor: But you can still fly and drop bombs. No danger there...
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