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quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:29 AM

sticker on my new mp3 player

hehe

The Click · 06-26-2003, 02:30 AM

borrow it then

smack · 06-26-2003, 02:34 AM

that's irony on a base level.

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 02:35 AM

eiht_98 · 06-26-2003, 02:36 AM

quiet: how much memory on that player?

gothweb · 06-26-2003, 02:36 AM

Nice. What size did you get?

quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eiht_98
quiet: how much memory on that player?

30 Gigs.

quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Nice. What size did you get?

eiht_98 · 06-26-2003, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

30 Gigs.

yeah sure

quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eiht_98

yeah sure

eiht_98 · 06-26-2003, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

wow....how much?...have to get one

gothweb · 06-26-2003, 02:43 AM

I figured you would go for the 30 gig model. I have the original 5 gig one... I'm tempted by the new ones, but too poor. Maybe I will get the next generation one.

And yes, that really is a 30 gig MP3 player. The Apple iPod comes in 10, 15, and 30 gig models.

gothweb · 06-26-2003, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eiht_98

wow....how much?...have to get one

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...re?family=iPod

Mutt · 06-26-2003, 02:45 AM

RIAA Plans to Sue Music Swappers
No More Warnings to Individuals

By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 26, 2003; Page E01

The music industry's chief trade group said yesterday that it is preparing a wave of civil lawsuits against people who use music-trading software, after months of threats failed to slow the practice.

No longer will the industry just go after those running programs that allow users to exchange song files, the Recording Industry Association of America warned. Nor will users simply be sent cease-and-desist e-mails or other messages. Hundreds or even thousands of such users may soon be sued on the basis of evidence the trade group said it plans to begin gathering today.

"The public has been educated and re-educated and re-educated again. People now know this is illegal," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA. "People can no longer count on just getting a warning."

Sherman said the RIAA has not determined what file trading will be challenged legally, but the group plans to go after the biggest offenders first. Still, he said, "even offering one file without permission is one too many."

The recording industry said music sales have declined 20 percent since 1999 and has blamed mostly what it calls music piracy. The recording industry succeeded in closing Napster, one of the original file-trading programs, in 2001, but newer file-trading programs such as Kazaa and Grokster are more decentralized and technologically harder to shut down.

In a conference call to announce the RIAA's legal attack yesterday, Nashville songwriter Chuck Cannon said that when people trade his songs online and don't pay for it, "they've effectively broken into my house and stolen my paycheck," he said.

The RIAA said it would use the public directories of peer-to-peer software programs and issue subpoenas to Internet service providers to track down people trading music files. The trade group has a precedent in its favor: Verizon Communications Inc. was compelled by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia this month to give the RIAA the names of four customers suspected of illegally distributing music files.

A major software industry association, the Business Software Alliance, released a statement supporting the RIAA's hardball approach yesterday. Consumer and artist groups generally gave it mixed to negative reviews.

"I don't think it's either a good thing or a bad thing, honestly. We've been expecting this for a long time," said Jenny Toomey, founder of the Future of Music Coalition, a group that fights for artists' rights. "If file trading is cutting in on legitimate sales, then that's a problem . . . but I go back and forth," on whether it is, she said. "We welcome the public discussion."

"I think this really suggests that the recording industry dinosaurs have completely lost touch with reality," said Fred Von Lohmann, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit organization that lobbies on civil liberties issues related to technology. "Over 57 million Americans are using file-sharing software today. That's more than voted for President Bush."

Phil Leigh, digital media analyst at Raymond James & Associates, said that he thought the RIAA should have held off on threatening lawsuits until people who use the Windows operating system have a successful, for-pay alternative to file-trading software. There are many for-pay music services available on the Web, but none has gotten much attention except for an online music store from Apple Computer Inc. -- which only people with Apple computers can use.

"I understand why they're doing it," said Joe Kraus, founder of DigitalConsumer.org, a consumer rights group. "But it's not going to be effective if there are not legitimate alternatives that consumers are excited about."

quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I figured you would go for the 30 gig model. I have the original 5 gig one... I'm tempted by the new ones, but too poor. Maybe I will get the next generation one.

And yes, that really is a 30 gig MP3 player. The Apple iPod comes in 10, 15, and 30 gig models.

i had an older one as well. the new one is amazing. way more features - i love the pda features, and the remote. the dock is cool too - just drop it in and it's automatically running on my stereo.

real world should hold over 6000 songs, about 600 cds. lots of room

Pornwolf · 06-26-2003, 02:55 AM

I downloaded every song made by Kosheen, Shy FX, Jamiroquai, The Doors & The White Stripes today. Most of the tracks were full .wav files! I can't stop, won't stop!

Take that, take that

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playa · 06-26-2003, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
RIAA Plans to Sue Music Swappers
No More Warnings to Individuals

Its amazes me why they don't go after the big business
that have products that cater to the Music swappers?

this IPOD is a fine example. Apple just made it even more convient to want to download more free music.

RIAA needs to focus their time in energy in how to profit from it rather than trying to fight it

gothweb · 06-26-2003, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i had an older one as well. the new one is amazing. way more features - i love the pda features, and the remote. the dock is cool too - just drop it in and it's automatically running on my stereo.

real world should hold over 6000 songs, about 600 cds. lots of room

I use the contacts, notes, etc. on my original iPod. Do you know how much they have added that is useful to the new ones? (It's a shame that the new software is new-models only. That's the first time they've done that.)

quiet · 06-26-2003, 02:58 AM

i have over 300 cds, which constitutes almost my entire digital music collection. i don't use any mp3 file sharing. of course your mileage may vary.

quiet · 06-26-2003, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

I use the contacts, notes, etc. on my original iPod. Do you know how much they have added that is useful to the new ones? (It's a shame that the new software is new-models only. That's the first time they've done that.)

just starting to play with it now.

flashfire · 06-26-2003, 03:01 AM

thats cool

godspeed · 06-26-2003, 03:03 AM

Quote:

[i]
Disclaimer - I normally buy all of the albums for the car as well when I like an artist [/B]

Or, "These songs are to used as backups only."

chodadog · 06-26-2003, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i had an older one as well. the new one is amazing. way more features - i love the pda features, and the remote. the dock is cool too - just drop it in and it's automatically running on my stereo.

real world should hold over 6000 songs, about 600 cds. lots of room

Docking feature sounds sweet.

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 03:12 AM

I don't steal music, people give it to me.

Herb Kornfield · 06-26-2003, 05:33 AM

The Recording industry is pissed that people arent into paying $20 bucks plus for tunes anymore. We'd rather all just download them.

If these compaines had half a brain, they'd just let us download them for a fee each month like apple.

Dusen · 06-26-2003, 05:56 AM

That looks super sweet.

I have a 64mb Lyra I use when lifting / biking and the only thing I don't like is the lack of space. 64 mb doesn't usually last me 2 hours music-wise so I end up repeating.

30gb would make up for that

DexterMoon · 06-26-2003, 05:58 AM

They are getting more desperate. I´m pretty sure their sites will be hacked soon.

Project-Shadow · 06-26-2003, 07:12 AM

the RIAA can do jack shit to stop what is it now..
Almost 600million pc's + Sharing files.

It's like sending 1 man against the entire U.S.A Army.
NOT GONNA HAPPEN

iroc409 · 06-26-2003, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa

Its amazes me why they don't go after the big business
that have products that cater to the Music swappers?

this IPOD is a fine example. Apple just made it even more convient to want to download more free music.

RIAA needs to focus their time in energy in how to profit from it rather than trying to fight it

they really can't do that. what about the backups that i make of my music collection so i can listen to it with more enjoyment? like loading 2000 songs into winamp and just let it shuffle all day while i'm working? there are legitmate uses for this kind of hardware. it's like a cassette player.

i rip mp3's from my own music collection, and i don't think RIAA can complain if i do this for my personal enjoyment. i don't have any sharing software, and i don't run a media trading server.

FlyingIguana · 06-26-2003, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
The Recording industry is pissed that people arent into paying $20 bucks plus for tunes anymore. We'd rather all just download them.

If these compaines had half a brain, they'd just let us download them for a fee each month like apple.

apple is 99 cents a song. i wish they would have a service like apple except being mp3's. cd's just suck shit.

quiet · 06-26-2003, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog

Docking feature sounds sweet.

it's fucking sweet. i've got over 3000 tracks loaded up so far, and i can play them all on my bose at a whim. you can make play lists on the fly as well which is cool as hell.

dirtyone · 06-26-2003, 09:34 PM

To much free.... music?

Fletch XXX · 06-26-2003, 09:36 PM

Sing Loud Sing Proud.

Brujah · 06-26-2003, 09:47 PM

those work with Windows systems too ?

LeeNoga · 06-26-2003, 09:49 PM

Who steals music? I just re-appropriate it.

Backov · 06-26-2003, 09:49 PM

The funniest bit is that is what they refer to as their "Copy Protection Mechanism"

Nice piece of hardware, want to snag one.

Brujah · 06-26-2003, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
those work with Windows systems too ?

I was thinking iTunes, n/m.

quiet · 06-26-2003, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
those work with Windows systems too ?

absolutely

lil2rich4u2 · 06-26-2003, 09:53 PM

quiet · 06-26-2003, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

I was thinking iTunes, n/m.

no itunes for windows. music match works with the ipod though:

http://www.musicmatch.com/download/f...S=pc&OEM=APPLE

Brujah · 06-26-2003, 09:57 PM

I like the 17" wide screen laptop ! I've never used a Mac tho.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...5.3.1.1.0?38,3

cherrylula · 06-26-2003, 09:58 PM

cheers quiet

quiet · 06-26-2003, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
I like the 17" wide screen laptop ! I've never used a Mac tho.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...5.3.1.1.0?38,3

that's the computer i'm typing this post with

Fletch XXX · 06-26-2003, 09:59 PM

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High Quality · 06-26-2003, 10:02 PM

My mp3 player is 128MB for $99. Works for me. FUck apple and their over priced products.

Brujah · 06-26-2003, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

that's the computer i'm typing this post with

When you upgrade ... I'll take it!

MetaMan · 06-26-2003, 10:04 PM

to many artists sound the same now,
i aint buyin an album to listen to one good song,
if the entire album was good or even half i would buy it,
but to many cds suck now.

smack · 06-26-2003, 10:06 PM

ya know, maybe if they charged a reasonable fee for their product they wouldn't have to worry about people stealing it. besides a musician should make his/her living touring and playing music live for their fans. not through CD sales. fuck you you assholes music is art and should be free to the public!

Brujah · 06-26-2003, 10:06 PM

1GHz PowerPC G4
? 1GB DDR SDRAM - 2 DIMMs
? 60GB Ultra ATA drive
? SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
? AirPort Extreme Card
? Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
? iPod - 30GB
? 17-inch TFT Display

Subtotal $4,098.00

quiet · 06-26-2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

When you upgrade ... I'll take it!

well, i only bought it a month ago...

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