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  • swedguy
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 7981

    #1

    Soul Cash, what's up?

    I just checked my Soul Cash linkcodes.

    To my surprise I was redirected to a URL that didn't have my webmaster ID in it.

    Linkcode: http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...st&website=bgs

    It should have redirected me to:
    http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?test::

    but instead I was redirected to:
    http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?mcommerce::

    Next time I tried it, I was redirected to the correct one.
    I get redirected to the mcommerce account every 15-20 time I use the linkcode.

    btw. "test" is not my real account.

    Anyone else that it happens to?
  • Rich
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2003
    • 11486

    #2
    Wow, they went low budget on the shave machine.

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    • TheEbonyFelony
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2003
      • 1964

      #3
      Contact me on icq 33176397
      no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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      • swedguy
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2002
        • 7981

        #4
        It stopped working from my IP now.

        But I tried it through a proxy, then it started redirecting again.

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        • Rich
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2003
          • 11486

          #5
          Originally posted by swedguy
          It stopped working from my IP now.

          But I tried it through a proxy, then it started redirecting again.


          Busted

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          • Rich
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2003
            • 11486

            #6
            Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
            Contact me on icq 33176397
            yeah contact their board whore so they can get this under wraps.

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            • TheEbonyFelony
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 1964

              #7
              toll free 800-833-3818
              no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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              • TheEbonyFelony
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 1964

                #8
                Originally posted by Rich


                yeah contact their board whore so they can get this under wraps.

                who are you?
                no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                • swedguy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 7981

                  #9
                  It seems to be limited per site too. After 2-3 times it doesn't seem to redirect anymore.
                  Then I tried another site, and it started redirecting again.

                  Interesting behavior

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                  • Dveron
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 2794

                    #10
                    hmmm
                    Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

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                    • Rich
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11486

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony



                      who are you?
                      The guy who's laughing at your morbidly obese ass for being a board whore for some lame program that just got busted with a stupidly basic, 1997 style shaving system.

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                      • footsex
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 803

                        #12
                        Linkcodes are working fine for me!

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                        • TheEbonyFelony
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1964

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rich


                          The guy who's laughing at your morbidly obese ass for being a board whore for some lame program that just got busted with a stupidly basic, 1997 style shaving system.

                          are u willing to put some money on this? or better yet your 'buisness'?
                          no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                          • swedguy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 7981

                            #14
                            Now it redirected to a different URL, but the same mcommerce account

                            http://www.blackgal.com/index1.htm?mcommerce::http://www.orgie.com/exit/index.html

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                            • Rich
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11486

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony



                              are u willing to put some money on this? or better yet your 'buisness'?
                              lol, jackass. Yes, I want to bet money with some disgustingly fat slob who records songs from the radio and says he produces them, about something that a program he whores himself for dimes for can easily hide. Yeah that sounds like something I'd do. You're focusing on all the wrong details here, worry about the affiliates you're scamming, not the guy laughing about it.

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                              • SixNine
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 1357

                                #16
                                swedguy - Great to come here and get your peer's suggestion/feedback but... how about picking up the phone and giving us a call (800) 833-3818.

                                Rich - Don't make accusations your ass (or bank account) can't cash.

                                I've been testing links but haven't seen one redirect. I'm discussing it with the programmers now.

                                SixNine

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                                • TheEbonyFelony
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 1964

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Rich


                                  lol, jackass. Yes, I want to bet money with some disgustingly fat slob who records songs from the radio and says he produces them, about something that a program he whores himself for dimes for can easily hide. Yeah that sounds like something I'd do. You're focusing on all the wrong details here, worry about the affiliates you're scamming, not the guy laughing about it.

                                  the funny thing about this is when it is all said and done and the error is fixed you wont have the balls to apologize for saying Soulcash was 'shaving'.
                                  no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                  • TheEbonyFelony
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 1964

                                    #18
                                    and on a personal level Rich you dont have the cahones to say shit in my face..bring it or sing it.I'm not hard to find as u can tell
                                    no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                    • swedguy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 7981

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SixNine
                                      swedguy - Great to come here and get your peer's suggestion/feedback but... how about picking up the phone and giving us a call (800) 833-3818.
                                      I'll give you a call after dinner.

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                                      • Rich
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 11486

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SixNine

                                        Rich - Don't make accusations your ass (or bank account) can't cash.
                                        Sue me, you'd be suprised what kind of accusations my ass can in fact cash.



                                        Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony



                                        the funny thing about this is when it is all said and done and the error is fixed you wont have the balls to apologize for saying Soulcash was 'shaving'.
                                        When the error is fixed? lol, give me a break. Prove that it was actually an error, and I'll consider apologizing.

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                                        • TheEbonyFelony
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 1964

                                          #21
                                          better yet fly the tagline I am TDF's boardbitch when its done
                                          no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                          • Hardcore J
                                            Hardcore 4 Lifeâ„¢
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 2553

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rich


                                            When the error is fixed? lol, give me a break. Prove that it was actually an error, and I'll consider apologizing.
                                            SixNine is a very respectable webmaster that runs an even more respectable affiliate program. I highly doubt that he would do something like this on purpose. Mistakes happen, people aren't perfect!

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                                            • Rich
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 11486

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
                                              better yet fly the tagline I am TDF's boardbitch when its done
                                              I'll do that they day you give up salt and sugar, deal? Seriously, you'll drop 200 lbs in a year. I know it makes you tear up when Jerry Seinfeld calls people as fat as you not human, admit it.

                                              Honestly, I'd love to see some proof that this is an error. Please keep in mind, I'm talking real proof, not GFY newbie proof. Some new account posting that they're your programmer and that they fucked up isn't going to fly with anyone with half a brain. I saw the shit redirect to your house account with my own two eyes, it's going to take real evidence to make me believe this wasn't out and out shaving.

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                                              • Rich
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 11486

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Hardcore J


                                                SixNine is a very respectable webmaster that runs an even more respectable affiliate program. I highly doubt that he would do something like this on purpose. Mistakes happen, people aren't perfect!
                                                Right, "respectable" programs don't shave, right? Give it up, most do, these guys just got caught because they're stupid about it.

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                                                • SixNine
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 1357

                                                  #25
                                                  This is no mistake. We're tracking down the cheater (mcommerce)right now. I'll keep you guys posted.

                                                  SixNine

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                                                  • TheEbonyFelony
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 1964

                                                    #26
                                                    mcommerce isnt a house account...it will all come out when its fixed...get that tagline warmed up,or people will know you for being the bitch who doesnt honor bets
                                                    no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                                    • SixNine
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 1357

                                                      #27
                                                      Rich,
                                                      What house account? "mcommerce" is an affiliate account. You have no idea what you're talking about.

                                                      SixNine

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                                                      • MetaMan
                                                        I AM WEB 2.0
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 28682

                                                        #28
                                                        all these places are stealing ur money foos

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                                                        • Matt 26z
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                          • 18481

                                                          #29
                                                          I just loaded

                                                          http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...23&website=bgs

                                                          11 times, and it worked like normal. But on the 12th try it put me here:

                                                          http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.htm...xit/index.html

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                                                          • Rich
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 11486

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
                                                            mcommerce isnt a house account...it will all come out when its fixed...get that tagline warmed up,or people will know you for being the bitch who doesnt honor bets
                                                            ?

                                                            What the fuck are you smoking?

                                                            First of all:

                                                            Originally posted by Rich
                                                            I'll do that they day you give up salt and sugar, deal? Seriously, you'll drop 200 lbs in a year.
                                                            I think I'm safe there.

                                                            And even if I did say I'd put that in my sig if this wasn't shaving, I also recall asking for more than hearsay. Claiming you got hacked is a little Like Whoa, don't ya think?


                                                            Originally posted by SixNine
                                                            Rich,
                                                            What house account? "mcommerce" is an affiliate account. You have no idea what you're talking about.

                                                            SixNine
                                                            Originally posted by Rich

                                                            Honestly, I'd love to see some proof that this is an error. Please keep in mind, I'm talking real proof, not GFY newbie proof.

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                                                            • Matt 26z
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 18481

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SixNine
                                                              We're tracking down the cheater (mcommerce)right now. I'll keep you guys posted.
                                                              If I load a sponsor code with a random affiliate ID, then how does the cheater (mcommerce) get it to redirect to his account? The only way to do this would be to hack into your program script on your server, and have every X number of hits redirect to his.

                                                              How likely is this?

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                                                              • Rich
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                • 11486

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Matt 26z


                                                                If I load a sponsor code with a random affiliate ID, then how does the cheater (mcommerce) get it to redirect to his account? The only way to do this would be to hack into your program script on your server, and have every X number of hits redirect to his.

                                                                How likely is this?
                                                                Shavers, or their system is not very secure. hmm, I would've gone with a different excuse, they loose either way with this one. A rouge employee that they quickly terminate would've been better in my opinion. Like Whoa pretty much killed the "we're getting hacked" excuse the 10th time they pulled it.

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                                                                • swedguy
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 7981

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                  I just loaded

                                                                  http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...23&website=bgs

                                                                  11 times, and it worked like normal. But on the 12th try it put me here:

                                                                  http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.htm...xit/index.html
                                                                  Good. Then it wasn't my browser that was broken

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                                                                  • Jizar II
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 1425

                                                                    #34
                                                                    LOL pretty fucked up

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                                                                    • Rich
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 11486

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Although, if that's the only way they're shaving, only 1 out of every 12-15 clicks is probably better than the industry standard, sadly.

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                                                                      • SixNine
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 1357

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                        Good. Then it wasn't my browser that was broken
                                                                        No man... you found somebody who's been cheating us since May. Everything will be fixed and bulletproofed shortly. The least I can do is offer you an explanation so feel free to give me a call.

                                                                        SixNine

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                                                                        • Matt 26z
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                          • 18481

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I just tried this again. Here's how many tries it took each time before replacing the id with the mcommerce id...

                                                                          25
                                                                          21
                                                                          35
                                                                          18
                                                                          11
                                                                          36
                                                                          10
                                                                          1
                                                                          7
                                                                          19

                                                                          So that's 183 hits, and 10 shaves. That comes out to a 5.5% shave ratio in this trial.

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                                                                          • Kevlar
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 309

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by SixNine
                                                                            Everything will be fixed and bulletproofed shortly.
                                                                            Sweet, when should we start mailing?
                                                                            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                            • pine
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 1373

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                              I just tried this again. Here's how many tries it took each time before replacing the id with the mcommerce id...

                                                                              25
                                                                              21
                                                                              35
                                                                              18
                                                                              11
                                                                              36
                                                                              10
                                                                              1
                                                                              7
                                                                              19

                                                                              So that's 183 hits, and 10 shaves. That comes out to a 5.5% shave ratio in this trial.
                                                                              Dude, you're a Human HitBot!
                                                                              unattended error: ID 10 T. Check connection between keyboard and chair.

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                                                                              • swedguy
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 7981

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by pine

                                                                                Dude, you're a Human HitBot!

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                                                                                • SixNine
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 1357

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  MCommerce is a Russian affiliate out of Brooklyn. They hacked our box and modified a few things.

                                                                                  Ha ha I'll be the butt of the jokes, you can rub my name in the mud, and make SoulCash part of the GFY drama for today.

                                                                                  Here's a little proof for you... when the link redirects it's even spoofing the referrer (which is hard coded into the hacks they made).

                                                                                  MCommerce is a cheater. He ripped SoulCash off for $520 and was just bugging me for more money the other day on ICQ. I'm just glad he's caught and has brought this exploit to the surface so we can implement security fixes. This is just one more thing to add to the list of pranks that have been pulled on my company.

                                                                                  Being a sponsor puts you at the top of the food chain and is a shit load of fun but... days like today truly suck ass. I guess growth has it's down side.

                                                                                  We're trying to make our afiliates as much cash as possible and at the same protect ourselves from our affiliates... definetly a fucked up dynamic.

                                                                                  I hope this thread has been enjoyable for all of you, have a kick ass day.

                                                                                  SixNine

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                                                                                  • TheEbonyFelony
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 1964

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    get that tagline warmed up Rich my Bitch!
                                                                                    no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                                                                    • swedguy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 7981

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      SixNine, I've tried to call you. But no one picks up.

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                                                                                      • SixNine
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 1357

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Hit me on the cell (206) 579-2706
                                                                                        My graphics guy thinks he's to good to pick up the phone.

                                                                                        SixNine

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                                                                                        • Number1Thumb
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 1135

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by SixNine
                                                                                          Hit me on the cell (206) 579-2706
                                                                                          My graphics guy thinks he's to good to pick up the phone.

                                                                                          SixNine

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                                                                                          • Matt 26z
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                            • 18481

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            So let's get this straight....

                                                                                            1. Mcommerce ripped you off for $520.

                                                                                            2. Mcommerce hacks into SoulCash in May, and obviously becomes one of SoulCash's top affiliates (hit wise at least if going by my 5.5% test result).

                                                                                            3. Mcommerce begs you for money.

                                                                                            At exactly what point should things have seemed a little strange?

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                                                                                            • SixNine
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 1357

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                              So let's get this straight....

                                                                                              1. Mcommerce ripped you off for $520.

                                                                                              2. Mcommerce hacks into SoulCash in May, and obviously becomes one of SoulCash's top affiliates (hit wise at least if going by my 5.5% test result).

                                                                                              3. Mcommerce begs you for money.

                                                                                              At exactly what point should things have seemed a little strange?
                                                                                              Wow I wish I had your expert opinion and advice two months ago, oh but forget it, you're probably busy running your ultra succesful affiliate program and Internet Security business.

                                                                                              None of it was strange. Lot's of people send from exit consoles. Basically they caught me with my mouth open (as Eddie Murphy would say).

                                                                                              I'll put money where my mouth is... Any SoulCash affiliate that contacts me I will calculate 5% of there earning since May 16th and add it to their next check (as long as it meets the minimum).


                                                                                              SixNine

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                                                                                              • Pornwolf
                                                                                                Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 22712

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Wow! You can't really ask for more than that!
                                                                                                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                                Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                                • bigdog
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 6964

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Is soulcash useing the x3 affilate script? i have to give a lof of credit to Sixnine though.A lof of other sponsors would never admit to being hacked
                                                                                                  Last edited by bigdog; 06-25-2003, 03:12 PM.

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                                                                                                  • traffictrader
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                    • 1331

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    ummm, anyone who knows sixnine, know's Seth doesn't shave.

                                                                                                    End of story.


                                                                                                    He is one fo the few remaining up and up guys in the biz

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