FOCUS ADULT Ripped me off - GoFuckYourself.com

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 07:45 AM

This is Mikey, many of you will remember me from Phoenix Content, which I left in November 2002. Then the company became FOCUS ADULT.

I had a verbal agreement with Craig Keddie, President of FOCUS ADULT, which he has RENIGED upon without any explanation. I only received a single email stating that the agreement will no longer be upheld.

I ask those of you who know me, who have done business with me, and whom I consider friends, and all adult webmasters who care about honest business to BOYCOTT focus adult until such a time as Craig is willing to talk to me and honor the agreement made when I left.

I encourage you to write to [email protected] and ask him to give me the courtesy of an explanation as to why he is reniging on the agreement he made with me, and to state your unwillingness to do business with FOCUS ADULT until he rectifies this current clusterfuck.

Since he has reniged on our agreement, this is a very important issue for anyone who has made purchases after November 2002, as the validity of your license is questionable since Craig has not fulfilled his buyout to me.

I regret to bring this issue public, but Craig will not answer my calls, will not return my emails, and will not speak to me online.

I just called him and he hung up on me ....

Thank you,
Mikey, formerly of PhoenixContent.com
[email protected]

Juicy D. Links · 06-20-2003, 07:46 AM

LeeNoga · 06-20-2003, 07:48 AM

Popcorn in the box.

jact · 06-20-2003, 07:48 AM

What the guido said...

Tipsy · 06-20-2003, 07:49 AM

Here we go again.

PicturesContent · 06-20-2003, 07:54 AM

k, now tell us why "the validity of your license is questionable since Craig has not fulfilled his buyout to me"???

Any documents about it?

Brujah · 06-20-2003, 07:55 AM

How about a big

FUCK YOU!

Sad. Immature content providers bringing their partnership disputes into the forums and threatening webmasters that they don't have a valid license anymore.

You're playing a dangerous game and you may want to be careful doing business in this manner.

Raven · 06-20-2003, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Popcorn in the box.

I want mine with butter......

TheEbonyFelony · 06-20-2003, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
How about a big

FUCK YOU!

Sad. Immature content providers bringing their partnership disputes into the forums and threatening webmasters that they don't have a valid license anymore.

You're playing a dangerous game and you may want to be careful doing business in this manner.

I dont think any webmaster wants to be kept out of the loop of any invalid content,because when/if the shit hits the fan the webmasters are the ones who will be hurt in the end but I do agree that the threat is wrong

Theo · 06-20-2003, 07:57 AM

wtf and i was checking their site 3min ago

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
How about a big

FUCK YOU!

Sad. Immature content providers bringing their partnership disputes into the forums and threatening webmasters that they don't have a valid license anymore.

You're playing a dangerous game and you may want to be careful doing business in this manner.

Brujah, i didnt want to do it in this manner. Like i said, Craig refuses to answer my emails, he just hung up on me 5 minutes ago. Would you let someone buttplug you for over 50 Grand?

Did you even read my post "I REGRET TO BRING THIS PUBLIC"

so FUCK YOU too

Thanks

Mikey

Brujah · 06-20-2003, 08:01 AM

You want to tell everyone that their licenses aren't valid anymore.. OH, and they should do you a favor and boycott Focus Adult.

Theo · 06-20-2003, 08:04 AM

not enough drama so far

us

HighRez · 06-20-2003, 08:04 AM

damn...

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

I dont think any webmaster wants to be kept out of the loop of any invalid content,because when/if the shit hits the fan the webmasters are the ones who will be hurt in the end but I do agree that the threat is wrong

I dont mean it as a threat to webmasters, EbonyFelony, anyone who dealt with me at phoenixcontent knows that i loved all of my customers, and am still friends with many of them. I am simply trying to FIX this situation, because CRAIG REFUSES TO TALK TO ME ....

Thank Craig for this...

Mikey

ONS · 06-20-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

I dont think any webmaster wants to be kept out of the loop of any invalid content,because when/if the shit hits the fan the webmasters are the ones who will be hurt in the end but I do agree that the threat is wrong

I agree

Theo · 06-20-2003, 08:09 AM

he just told me: "There's no way I can pay you back, but the plan is to show you that I understand"

TheEbonyFelony · 06-20-2003, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
he just told me: "There's no way I can pay you back, but the plan is to show you that I understand"

LMAO

..whats your ICQ?

ONS · 06-20-2003, 08:11 AM

However i will never do business with this guy and put myself at risk or my business.

I never had a problem with Mikey he always took good care of me. The relationship we built turned blossomed quite nice over the years and his content made me some good cash too.

Very few content providers would bend over backwards like he did for his clients.

Icy · 06-20-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
How about a big

FUCK YOU!

Sad. Immature content providers bringing their partnership disputes into the forums and threatening webmasters that they don't have a valid license anymore.

You're playing a dangerous game and you may want to be careful doing business in this manner.

Yeah this seems the new trend now, the content providers screw each others and they want all the customer to take part on it, this happened me with sobe and was enought, if you don't want other guy playing with your content, don't sell it to resellers and sell it yourself, you guys can't keep fucking the buyers with your problems not related to us.

This remembers me when the main dialer doesn't pay and all the resellers tell to his webmasters that they won't get the money as he has not been paid, the webmasters are your customers, you sell or resell them a product, they don't need to care about your main provider, thast exactly why you get a comission as guy in the middle, i laught at guys who only want to be resellers for the
profit, but not for the risk involved.

SpermbergMikey don't take this personal, this is not specially against you or focusadult, as i don't know who is right on this, but also we don't care if he payed you or not your part of the company, it's a problem betwen you both, don't fuck the customers. It's even ok if you make it public to make him appear, but not to start talk shit about license issues or webmasters contacting you, etc.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
You want to tell everyone that their licenses aren't valid anymore.. OH, and they should do you a favor and boycott Focus Adult.

Brujah, i did not say that. settle down.

Let me sum it up for you. Craig and I had an agreement, he has decided not to fulfill it or talk to me, he hangs up on me, will not talk to me.

This can all be simply resolved with a discussion between craig and I, which is all i am trying to achieve.

The fact of the matter is that i have not been fully compensated as agreed when i left, and that means i still own a percentage of the company. All of this can be solved very easily by Craig. I have expressed my willingness to be reasonable with him, he WILL NOT SPEAK TO ME!

anyone who wants to bitch, send it to [email protected] or icq# 260064

Theo · 06-20-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

LMAO ..whats your ICQ?

i have plenty for investing purposes, try this one $164819091

Tipsy · 06-20-2003, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpermbergMikey

Brujah, i did not say that. settle down.

Quote:

Since he has reniged on our agreement, this is a very important issue for anyone who has made purchases after November 2002, as the validity of your license is questionable since Craig has not fulfilled his buyout to me.

OK you didn;t say it but the difference was so small as to be negligable.

Oh well - TWO more people to keep clear of in this business. How on earth you expected the posts or statements to get you much in the way of sympathy is beyond me. Telling people that because you have no business sense their licenses 'may' be invalid really doesn't help you cause. It could be that you are 100% in the right but to threaten not just the guy who fucked you over but anyone who actually uses your (?) stuff because YOU have problems really isn't the way to go about things.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Icy

SpermbergMikey don't take this personal, this is not specially against you or focusadult, as i don't know who is right on this, but also we don't care if he payed you or not your part of the company, it's a problem betwen you both, don't fuck the customers. It's even ok if you make it public to make him appear, but not to start talk shit about license issues or webmasters contacting you, etc.

Not taken personally

I agree completely it is between he and I, but i dont know what else to do. I have called him 100 times, he hangs up. He refuses to talk to me and settle the situation.

As i said, any webmaster that has dealt with me in the past knows that i am honest and i care about them ... im sorry to bring up the licensing issue, but honestly, if he has reneged on buying me out, then what does that mean? and what am i supposed to do if he refuses to talk to me?

Mikey

Theo · 06-20-2003, 08:23 AM

SpermbergMikey, what made you post this now and not last year?

TheSenator · 06-20-2003, 08:24 AM

What goes around comes around....
hahaha

MuleScrote · 06-20-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
SpermbergMikey, what made you post this now and not last year?

I know Mikey very well and we still continue to work together today. The split in his partnership with Craig was something that became unavoidable but Mikey did not feel that the situation was a public matter.

The end of Phoenix Content was not ugly because all parties involved came to certain terms of understanding and an agreement for a buyout was reached.

Mikey always did what he could to make things right with his customers because he sees customers as business partners, not just another sale. His post here comes after 2 months of frustration trying to regain what is rightfully his. Do i agree with him questioning the validity of content licenses? No. Certainly there is a better way to rally the troops.

I have always supported Mikey 100% and will continue to do so. If I was out $50k, I would be looking for answers too.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
SpermbergMikey, what made you post this now and not last year?

Craig honored the agreement 100% until june 1st 2003, when he sent me this email:

Mike,

There will be no further content of any kind added to your account or funds.

There is nothing more to discuss with you now or at any time in the future through e-mail, my employees, telephone, in person or any other medium you may chose on these or any other subjects.

Craig.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

OK you didn;t say it but the difference was so small as to be negligable.

Oh well - TWO more people to keep clear of in this business. How on earth you expected the posts or statements to get you much in the way of sympathy is beyond me. Telling people that because you have no business sense their licenses 'may' be invalid really doesn't help you cause. It could be that you are 100% in the right but to threaten not just the guy who fucked you over but anyone who actually uses your (?) stuff because YOU have problems really isn't the way to go about things.

Im not looking for sympathy, i just want Craig to stop ignoring me and act like a man. Im SINCERELY sorry if I went about this the wrong way - but Craig can solve all of this with a simple conversation with me.

Fletch XXX · 06-20-2003, 08:58 AM

Obviously most of you have no clue who Mike is and just feel like ragging on him, which is the norm here for folks who rather talk shit than do business anyway. I have bought content from Mikey a very long time ago for years it seems, most likely longer than some of you have even been in this industry ;) , he was always very helpful and quick with helping me with anything, one of the absolute first person i went through for a deal for content such as: pay 200 a month and get 30 sets etc Mike/Phoenix and Focus Adult do and have always kicked ass when it comes to content and being professional.

I wont let years of dealing with someone get pushed to the side because he sounds like he is being fucked out of what he claims 50k. Let him make his post like the rest of the people who try to collect and get fucked by companies, fuck taking sides let it take its course.

Mikey always was cool and helped out let him try and get what he deserves, who cares really if its right or wrong, its not really any of our place to justify anything, he clearly doesnt work for them anylonger and is o9nly trying to gain what he lost.

Sorry this happened Mike hope it all works.

Dont listen to these haters. They sit around waiting to bash guys like you ;)

Snake Doctor · 06-20-2003, 09:04 AM

Alot of people, myself included, only purchased content from focus adult because Mikey's old site redirected there.
We wanted to do business with Mikey and were told that all of his content was now for sale by focus adult, so we bought it there.

If he's not getting his share of the deal then that's definitely not fair.
HIS name brought THAT company a lot of business.

Rochard · 06-20-2003, 09:07 AM

Normally I cannot stand people who air their dirty laundry on public boards. However, I have known Mikey for a long time. I met him when we started purchasing content from Phoenix Content, and the arrangement we have in place continues on with Focus Adult.

Mikey never told me the exact details, which is professional since it's really none of my business. However, after a long period of time with no results it seems Mikey has decided to go public with this. There seems to be a fairly large sum of money involved.

Maybe it's time for me to seriously reconsider the contract I have in place with Focus Adult.

Juicy D. Links · 06-20-2003, 09:13 AM

yo Mikey I was on the monthly plan all sets i got evry month i hope my shit and licenses are kosher

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Alot of people, myself included, only purchased content from focus adult because Mikey's old site redirected there.
We wanted to do business with Mikey and were told that all of his content was now for sale by focus adult, so we bought it there.

If he's not getting his share of the deal then that's definitely not fair.
HIS name brought THAT company a lot of business.

Thanks for your support ... up until june everything was fine, and I was actively still referring people to Craig/FocusAdult. but he just out of the blue stopped sending me $ and content (i will avoid getting into specific details of the agreement)

I would have told you in may that Craig is reputable, respectable, and honest. I dont know what the hell is going on, because he simply will not talk to me. He just sent me an email, i think i posted it above.

All i want is to resolve this with him.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Normally I cannot stand people who air their dirty laundry on public boards. However, I have known Mikey for a long time. I met him when we started purchasing content from Phoenix Content, and the arrangement we have in place continues on with Focus Adult.

Mikey never told me the exact details, which is professional since it's really none of my business. However, after a long period of time with no results it seems Mikey has decided to go public with this. There seems to be a fairly large sum of money involved.

Maybe it's time for me to seriously reconsider the contract I have in place with Focus Adult.

Hey Richard

If you want, simply send craig an email and tell him to settle the agreement with me - and everything will be fine. encouraging craig to talk to me is the best thing to do to resolve this clusterfuck.

hope all is well, im promoting lightspeed18 now, ah ill talk to you on icq about that...

Mikey

mule · 06-20-2003, 09:29 AM

Whoa, the shit never ends

In my dealings with Mikey he's always been a standup guy. I hope this thing can get resolved one way or the other, and I must say that I'm a bit nervous at the idea of my licences suddenly being potentially invalid.

PhillipB · 06-20-2003, 09:33 AM

Mikey is a great guy and was able to pull through for us back in the Phoenix Content days. I don't think he would have resorted to airing this in public if he didn't feel it necessary. 2 concerns of mine:

1) Mikey, I have to ask: Why in the heck didn't you have a written contract? Verbal contracts, although binding, are rediculously hard to enforce unless you have something to back them up.

You're in the license business and you went with a verbal contract??!!

2) This thread will die soon, and the total loss of business to Focus Adult will be minimal. For that reason, you need to hire an attorney ASAP. They're expensive, I know...but you might be able to find one either pro bono or on commission. Regardless, you know the old saying about squeezing blood from a rock....if Focus Adult doesn't have the money, it will be rather tough for him to pay you.

Best of luck.

Nysus · 06-20-2003, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
You want to tell everyone that their licenses aren't valid anymore.. OH, and they should do you a favor and boycott Focus Adult.

If they're not because of a broken deal, then I suppose their not right? I just woke up so I'm a bit drowsy.

Cheers,
Matt

JayJay · 06-20-2003, 09:41 AM

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by APN Philip
Mikey is a great guy and was able to pull through for us back in the Phoenix Content days. I don't think he would have resorted to airing this in public if he didn't feel it necessary. 2 concerns of mine:

1) Mikey, I have to ask: Why in the heck didn't you have a written contract? Verbal contracts, although binding, are rediculously hard to enforce unless you have something to back them up.

You're in the license business and you went with a verbal contract??!!

2) This thread will die soon, and the total loss of business to Focus Adult will be minimal. For that reason, you need to hire an attorney ASAP. They're expensive, I know...but you might be able to find one either pro bono or on commission. Regardless, you know the old saying about squeezing blood from a rock....if Focus Adult doesn't have the money, it will be rather tough for him to pay you.

Best of luck.

I completely trusted that Craig would honor the agreement, and he did from November 2002 through May 2003. I did not feel the need for a formal contract although i do have details of the agreement we made saved from online conversations. Im not getting a lawyer, im not necessarily after the money ... part of me just wants the courtesy of an explanation, and a little respect, instead of ignored emails, being hung up on when i call, etc... Im not trying to cause a loss to FocusAdult, im simply trying to get Craig to talk to me. I was going to bring this public a week ago, but i cooled off and was busy. then when i called him this morning, i said "its mikey" and click, he hung up ... that did it.

Craig, ive told you im willing to renegotiate. Stop being childish and message me, and we will come to a complete agreement, i will sign a document stating that you own full licensing rights, and this will all be over.

Mikey

Eric · 06-20-2003, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpermbergMikey

and what am i supposed to do if he refuses to talk to me?

Mikey

Get a Lawyer? I am not taking sides here. But as we all know there are three sides to every story. Yours, Mine, and the Truth. I consider both Mikey and Craig to be very reputable business men. And I hope this all works out in the favor of not only both of them, but also for the webmasters.

Lets hear Craig's side of this.

Hammer · 06-20-2003, 09:56 AM

I don't care who Mike is and whether he's the nicest guy in the world. This kind of thing is absolutely ridiculous and incredibly unprofessional. Truly honest moral people wound't do this kind of thing. Period.

Golly, you know what? My girlfriend won't talk to me. She won't return my calls or anything. Boo fucking hoo. I know, I'll get on GFY and tell everyone she ever slept with that she has aids.

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes

Get a Lawyer? I am not taking sides here. But as we all know there are three sides to every story. Yours, Mine, and the Truth. I consider both Mikey and Craig to be very reputable business men. And I hope this all works out in the favor of not only both of them, but also for the webmasters.

Lets hear Craig's side of this.

yes, i would love to hear craigs side of it. and for anyone who wants to know the truth, ill answer anything you want, or show you files i have saved to back up my claims.

My mother didnt keep me away from porn, but she taught me to be honest.

Craig, we are all waiting. message me offline and i will resolve this with you, i will sign a paper giving you full rights to licensing, and i will inform everyone that the matter is resolved.

Mikey

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hammer
I don't care who Mike is and whether he's the nicest guy in the world. This kind of thing is absolutely ridiculous and incredibly unprofessional. Truly honest moral people wound't do this kind of thing. Period.

It is unprofessional for Craig to ignore my phone calls and emails when we have a standing agreement. if anyone wants to bitch, send your emails here:

[email protected]

ICQ# 260064

what are you talking about truly honest and moral people wouldnt do what? I have been buttplugged, and im not gonna take it after all the blood sweat and tears i put into phoenix content. I tried to handle this privately, and as i have said here, CRAIG REFUSES TO TALK TO ME....

very ridiculous and unprofessional thing for Craig to do when he is licensing content and has a standing agreement with me. i have offered to renogotiate and settle. yet again, he will not talk to me.

I dont know how else to handle this matter. I guess you would have to be in my shoes to understand.

Mikey

DeanCapture · 06-20-2003, 10:24 AM

We have bought from FocusAdult a few times and in fact, I have posted on this board many times how great their content was. But until this problem get's resolved, we will not purchase anything else from them.

I have never delt with Mikey before but when I owned PlanetContent.com, many of my customers were his customers and they only had great things to say about him.

Hope it works out for ya' Mikey!

Dean*

Brujah · 06-20-2003, 10:34 AM

Mikey can be the fucking pope for all I care. If you bought Focus Adult content, he's telling you that you may not have a legal license to use it if you don't get Craig to talk to him.

Better take it down.

DeanCapture · 06-20-2003, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Mikey can be the fucking pope for all I care. If you bought Focus Adult content, he's telling you that you may not have a legal license to use it if you don't get Craig to talk to him.

Better take it down.

Well, if Craig sold me content that he doesn't have a legal right to license to me, he's really fucked up - Oliver Klozov does not play that shit!

Dean*

Hammer · 06-20-2003, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpermbergMikey

It is unprofessional for Craig to ignore my phone calls and emails when we have a standing agreement. if anyone wants to bitch, send your emails here:

[email protected]

ICQ# 260064

what are you talking about truly honest and moral people wouldnt do what? I have been buttplugged, and im not gonna take it after all the blood sweat and tears i put into phoenix content. I tried to handle this privately, and as i have said here, CRAIG REFUSES TO TALK TO ME....

very ridiculous and unprofessional thing for Craig to do when he is licensing content and has a standing agreement with me. i have offered to renogotiate and settle. yet again, he will not talk to me.

I dont know how else to handle this matter. I guess you would have to be in my shoes to understand.

Mikey

I have been in your shoes as has any business man that's been in business a while. What you have done only takes you down to his level whether you see that or not.

It's kind of like a disgruntled postal worker saying "I had to kill all those people to make my point, I couldn't think of any other way."

I guess your mom would be real proud.

DeanCapture · 06-20-2003, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hammer

I have been in your shoes as has any business man that's been in business a while. What you have done only takes you down to his level whether you see that or not.

It's kind of like a disgruntled postal worker saying "I had to kill all those people to make my point, I couldn't think of any other way."

I guess your mom would be real proud.

I disagree. I think Mikey is trying to warn everyone on these boards that Craig is not a man of his word. If this means that Mikey has dropped down to his level, that's fine in my eyes. I want to do business with people that I can trust and people who stand behind their word. Don't you?

Dean*

SpermbergMikey · 06-20-2003, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture
We have bought from FocusAdult a few times and in fact, I have posted on this board many times how great their content was. But until this problem get's resolved, we will not purchase anything else from them.

I have never delt with Mikey before but when I owned PlanetContent.com, many of my customers were his customers and they only had great things to say about him.

Hope it works out for ya' Mikey!

Dean*

Thanks Dean...

The content is great, and the prices are great ... and their new videos are great (thanks to my video lights he used without my permission) ... just Craig is being too stubborn to talk to me right now. Like a kid who you took away his toy or something. I want to resolve this issue, so the best thing anyone can do is to email [email protected] and let him know you will not buy from him until this is resolved. Several issues make the license questionable at this point - he still owes me a significant amount of money promised in an agreement - therefore i still own a part of the company until he settles with me and i officially sign it over to him. I have tried to tell him that i will renegotiate if he is having trouble coming up with the $, but he hangs up on the phone, and ignores me online.

I encourage anyone who has bought content from Focus Adult to email [email protected] and tell him to contact me to resolve this matter.

He can then present you with a signed paper showing that he has full rights to sell this content.

Mikey

06-20-2003, 07:45 AM	#1
SpermbergMikey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SUNSHINE STATE! Posts: 74	FOCUS ADULT Ripped me off This is Mikey, many of you will remember me from Phoenix Content, which I left in November 2002. Then the company became FOCUS ADULT. I had a verbal agreement with Craig Keddie, President of FOCUS ADULT, which he has RENIGED upon without any explanation. I only received a single email stating that the agreement will no longer be upheld. I ask those of you who know me, who have done business with me, and whom I consider friends, and all adult webmasters who care about honest business to BOYCOTT focus adult until such a time as Craig is willing to talk to me and honor the agreement made when I left. I encourage you to write to [email protected] and ask him to give me the courtesy of an explanation as to why he is reniging on the agreement he made with me, and to state your unwillingness to do business with FOCUS ADULT until he rectifies this current clusterfuck. Since he has reniged on our agreement, this is a very important issue for anyone who has made purchases after November 2002, as the validity of your license is questionable since Craig has not fulfilled his buyout to me. I regret to bring this issue public, but Craig will not answer my calls, will not return my emails, and will not speak to me online. I just called him and he hung up on me .... Thank you, Mikey, formerly of PhoenixContent.com [email protected] __________________ FOCUS ADULT RIPPED ME OFF!

06-20-2003, 07:48 AM	#4
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	What the guido said... __________________ Free agent

06-20-2003, 07:49 AM	#5
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Here we go again. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

06-20-2003, 07:55 AM	#7
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	How about a big FUCK YOU! Sad. Immature content providers bringing their partnership disputes into the forums and threatening webmasters that they don't have a valid license anymore. You're playing a dangerous game and you may want to be careful doing business in this manner. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	You want to tell everyone that their licenses aren't valid anymore.. OH, and they should do you a favor and boycott Focus Adult. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

06-20-2003, 07:46 AM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992

06-20-2003, 07:48 AM	#3
LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	Popcorn in the box.

06-20-2003, 07:54 AM	#6
PicturesContent Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: You guess lol Posts: 286	k, now tell us why "the validity of your license is questionable since Craig has not fulfilled his buyout to me"??? Any documents about it?

06-20-2003, 07:57 AM	#10
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	wtf and i was checking their site 3min ago

06-20-2003, 08:04 AM	#13
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	not enough drama so far us

06-20-2003, 08:04 AM	#14
HighRez Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 78	damn... __________________ [email protected] Massive_Mark - ICQ: 38326492

06-20-2003, 08:09 AM	#17
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	he just told me: "There's no way I can pay you back, but the plan is to show you that I understand"

06-20-2003, 08:11 AM	#19
ONS Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sparta Posts: 204	However i will never do business with this guy and put myself at risk or my business. I never had a problem with Mikey he always took good care of me. The relationship we built turned blossomed quite nice over the years and his content made me some good cash too. Very few content providers would bend over backwards like he did for his clients.

06-20-2003, 08:23 AM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	SpermbergMikey, what made you post this now and not last year?

06-20-2003, 08:24 AM	#26
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	What goes around comes around.... hahaha

06-20-2003, 08:58 AM	#30
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Obviously most of you have no clue who Mike is and just feel like ragging on him, which is the norm here for folks who rather talk shit than do business anyway. I have bought content from Mikey a very long time ago for years it seems, most likely longer than some of you have even been in this industry ;) , he was always very helpful and quick with helping me with anything, one of the absolute first person i went through for a deal for content such as: pay 200 a month and get 30 sets etc Mike/Phoenix and Focus Adult do and have always kicked ass when it comes to content and being professional. I wont let years of dealing with someone get pushed to the side because he sounds like he is being fucked out of what he claims 50k. Let him make his post like the rest of the people who try to collect and get fucked by companies, fuck taking sides let it take its course. Mikey always was cool and helped out let him try and get what he deserves, who cares really if its right or wrong, its not really any of our place to justify anything, he clearly doesnt work for them anylonger and is o9nly trying to gain what he lost. Sorry this happened Mike hope it all works. Dont listen to these haters. They sit around waiting to bash guys like you ;) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 06-20-2003 at 09:00 AM..

06-20-2003, 09:04 AM	#31
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Alot of people, myself included, only purchased content from focus adult because Mikey's old site redirected there. We wanted to do business with Mikey and were told that all of his content was now for sale by focus adult, so we bought it there. If he's not getting his share of the deal then that's definitely not fair. HIS name brought THAT company a lot of business. __________________ sig too big

06-20-2003, 09:07 AM	#32
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,048	Normally I cannot stand people who air their dirty laundry on public boards. However, I have known Mikey for a long time. I met him when we started purchasing content from Phoenix Content, and the arrangement we have in place continues on with Focus Adult. Mikey never told me the exact details, which is professional since it's really none of my business. However, after a long period of time with no results it seems Mikey has decided to go public with this. There seems to be a fairly large sum of money involved. Maybe it's time for me to seriously reconsider the contract I have in place with Focus Adult. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

06-20-2003, 09:13 AM	#33
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	yo Mikey I was on the monthly plan all sets i got evry month i hope my shit and licenses are kosher

06-20-2003, 09:29 AM	#36
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	Whoa, the shit never ends In my dealings with Mikey he's always been a standup guy. I hope this thing can get resolved one way or the other, and I must say that I'm a bit nervous at the idea of my licences suddenly being potentially invalid. __________________ Converting like a mofo

06-20-2003, 09:33 AM	#37
PhillipB Just a Simple Carpenter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Your mom's house... Posts: 1,338	Mikey is a great guy and was able to pull through for us back in the Phoenix Content days. I don't think he would have resorted to airing this in public if he didn't feel it necessary. 2 concerns of mine: 1) Mikey, I have to ask: Why in the heck didn't you have a written contract? Verbal contracts, although binding, are rediculously hard to enforce unless you have something to back them up. You're in the license business and you went with a verbal contract??!! 2) This thread will die soon, and the total loss of business to Focus Adult will be minimal. For that reason, you need to hire an attorney ASAP. They're expensive, I know...but you might be able to find one either pro bono or on commission. Regardless, you know the old saying about squeezing blood from a rock....if Focus Adult doesn't have the money, it will be rather tough for him to pay you. Best of luck.

06-20-2003, 09:41 AM	#39
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739

06-20-2003, 09:56 AM	#42
Hammer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 961	I don't care who Mike is and whether he's the nicest guy in the world. This kind of thing is absolutely ridiculous and incredibly unprofessional. Truly honest moral people wound't do this kind of thing. Period. Golly, you know what? My girlfriend won't talk to me. She won't return my calls or anything. Boo fucking hoo. I know, I'll get on GFY and tell everyone she ever slept with that she has aids. __________________ Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting Last edited by Hammer; 06-20-2003 at 10:00 AM..

06-20-2003, 10:24 AM	#45
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	We have bought from FocusAdult a few times and in fact, I have posted on this board many times how great their content was. But until this problem get's resolved, we will not purchase anything else from them. I have never delt with Mikey before but when I owned PlanetContent.com, many of my customers were his customers and they only had great things to say about him. Hope it works out for ya' Mikey! Dean* __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

06-20-2003, 10:34 AM	#46
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Mikey can be the fucking pope for all I care. If you bought Focus Adult content, he's telling you that you may not have a legal license to use it if you don't get Craig to talk to him. Better take it down. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com