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Old 06-21-2003, 08:38 AM   #1
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Facts about Islam.

Islam is a world religion which has approximately 1.2 billion followers. That means that one in every five people on the planet is a Muslim. In short, Islam is not a minority phenomenon.

The word Islam is best translated into English as 'commitment'. Followers of Islam, called Muslims, commit their lives to peace, harmony, truthfulness, good works, charity, neighborliness, almsgiving, acceptance of religious pluralism, and diversity.

The religion of Islam does not support, preach, or advocate violence, discrimination, or terrorism in any way, shape, or form.

Extremist groups who claim to follow Islam are no more representative of Islam than David Koresh is of Christianity.

In the West, the concept of jihad has been improperly translated as 'holy war.' Instead, jihad means 'struggle' and refers, in particular, to the personal struggle that every Muslim engages in to live a peaceful and good life.

One of the basic precepts of Islam is the equality of all people regardless of race, ability, or gender.

Muslims believe that there is no compulsion in religion and that individuals are free to choose their own religion and beliefs.

Centuries before the women's movement in the West, Islam granted women the right to own property, to be educated, the right to inherit. In the West, in many instances, women did not receive these rights until centuries later.

'Arab' and 'Muslim' are not synonymous.
A Muslim is a person who follows the precepts of Islam.
'Arab,' on the other hand, is an ethnicity; it refers to a person from the Arabian peninsula.

Of the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, only 15% are Arabs.

Muslims are of every ethnicity on earth from sub-Saharan Africans to Europeans in Germany, Bosnia, and France; from African-Americans in Oakland, California, to Portuguese-speaking Brazilians. There are more than 50 million Muslims in China; more than 150 million in Indonesia.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States.

Christianity is currently the largest religion in the world. It is followed by about 33% of all people -- a percentage that has remained stable for decades. If current trends continue, Islam will become the most popular world religion sometime in the mid-21st century.
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Interesting.

BUT - like all religions it has been perverted.

Just like Christians who kill in the name of Jesus.
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You forgot a key fact about Islam... it's all make-believe. Along with Christianity and Judaism.

And you are dead wrong when you say:
The religion of Islam does not support, preach, or advocate violence, discrimination, or terrorism in any way, shape, or form.

That is complete bullshit on it's way to becoming hopeful myth. Islam advocates the most brutal forms of violence for the most minor of crimes. (As does the bible.) For example, here's what the Koran says should be done to all us evil non-believers:

"So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them" (Koran 47:4)

And another one for ya...
?Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection? (Koran 9:29).

So get your facts straight Brujah.

Want more facts about Islamic violence? Check out: http://corpun.master.com/texis/maste.../?q=Islam&s=SS Read that shit for the truth about Islam today.

And here's some more real facts about the Koran and the bible answerring the age old question, "Whose God is More Viscious?"

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1001/answers.html

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Landover Baptist is a parody site, Idiot.
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Brujah,

You sound like you know a lot about the subject. How did Islam spread so quickly?
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LOL, no kidding. I guess you didn't get it.
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You sound like you know a lot about the subject. How did Islam spread so quickly?
Because it is the one true faith. And probably higher birthrates.
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Brujah,

You sound like you know a lot about the subject. How did Islam spread so quickly?

I cut your head if you don't become muslim, if it wasn't for Charles Martel, europe would be muslim today. But now that the have jacques chirac, muslims can start conquering again.

PS: Today in somalia, ethiopia, erytrea, sudan and other african nations, thousands of Christians are massacred each month and nobody gives a damn... But go kill a few thousands muslims and Bill "blow me" Clinton will send the GI's after you. (Bosnia for the mentally challenged readers here such as labret, sexysarah and other muslim loving scums)
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The President of the United States, George W. Bush, has emphasized that "Islam is Peace" on a number of occasions.

Jerry Falwell said that "...Muhammad was a terrorist. I've read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war."
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Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.
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The Christian terrorists have killed and wounded more Americans than any other terrorists that America has faced. They have targeted Jews, blacks, and other so-called mud people. They have killed abortion doctors, murdered gays, bombed the 1996 Olympics, bombed the Oklahoma City federal building, committed the Jewish day care shootings, experimented with anthrax, and committed countless violent acts. Hammer Skinheads have al-Qaeda connections and are international.

The Al-Christian terrorist organization is fierce, and vast.
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The President of the United States, George W. Bush, has emphasized that "Islam is Peace" on a number of occasions.

Jerry Falwell said that "...Muhammad was a terrorist. I've read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war."

GWB is a puppet, one day it's Dick pulling the string, hence the "Bad Mohomad, bad mohamad" speech; the othe day it's Colin pulling the strings, hence the "Mohamad is a peace loving man" speech.

Jerry F. is right, just like the Christians did a few hundred years ago, the muslims are doing today. Convert or Die.
That's why you have over a billion Christians and muslims today.
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The President of the United States, George W. Bush, has emphasized that "Islam is Peace" on a number of occasions.

Jerry Falwell said that "...Muhammad was a terrorist. I've read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war."
Two more men who, like you, play make-believe. So what's your point?

You still can't get away with saying "Followers of Islam, called Muslims, commit their lives to peace...", when clearly the facts disagree. Let go of the desire to control people Brujah and admit there are no gods.
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admit there are no gods.
Persuade me. I need more than just a blank statement.
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Persuade me. I need more than just a blank statement.
Nice try. Convince me that there is a god. Then I will commit all the atrocities Islam tells me I must do to be a good Muslim.
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how the hell is it possible, that most of the islam freaks are so fucking stupid?

They kill people in the name of god *loool* idiots

Every shit what they do....not important what...the islam is the answere.

Fuck the islam and piss off with this shit !!!!
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Because it is the one true faith. And probably higher birthrates.
This is how Islam spread all across the Middle East and Northern Africa so quickly?
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I have no desire to persuade you to believe in anything.
The Koran says you should, or you should kill me if you fail. And besides your posting of the mythical "Facts About Islam" suggests you were trying to convince someone. I guess you were looking for just the weak-minded.
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The Koran says you should, or you should kill me if you fail.
Ok, gimme your address.
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Brujah,

You sound like you know a lot about the subject. How did Islam spread so quickly?
I cannot remember the exact date but in the 3rd or 4th century a Muslim warrior swept through most of North Africa "converting" the people there. There was also Saladin who occupied Palestein and that area.

It has always been a religion that practiced peace and love while slaughtering everyone that stood in it's way. They also revere the "Holy Warrior Leaders" a lot like Christianity and now that the Jews have an army them as well.
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It (Islam) has always been a religion that practiced peace and love while slaughtering everyone that stood in it's way.
Charly, you aren't being fair to Christianity. Christians are AT LEAST as brutal and nasty as Muslims while preaching that they are peace-loving.

I would hold Christianity right up there on the visciousness scale. We must be fair after all.
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One of the basic precepts of Islam is the equality of all people regardless of race, ability, or gender.

Equality by gender - I dont think so !
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Equality by gender - I dont think so !
Explain ?
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Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.
Or Irish (IRA)...

Or Communist (Shining Path)...

Etc...
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Religion is between the person and god. Nobody else.
What people do in the name of religion doesnt mean jack shit, except political.
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Religion is between the person and god. Nobody else.
What people do in the name of religion doesnt mean jack shit, except political.
Now there is a statement that I think everyone; Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus and atheists can all agree is... total crap.

So if a man flogs his daughter with 80 lashes because the Koran told him he must do it then it "doesnt mean jack shit, except political"?

Face it, god is just Santa Claus for adults - it's make-believe. And religions are just the afterbirth of civilization - something we needed for a while before we found a better way in the law, ethics, and democracy.
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What people do in the name of religion doesnt mean jack shit, except political.
The Knights of Faith. Have you read any Kierkegaard?
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Today is summer solstice drink, eat be merry and forget all these religious dogmas.

The only true religion is Gaia and she just wants you back in her arms after you have lived your life.
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Islam is a world religion which has approximately 1.2 billion followers. That means that one in every five people on the planet is a Muslim. In short, Islam is not a minority phenomenon.

The word Islam is best translated into English as 'commitment'. Followers of Islam, called Muslims, commit their lives to peace, harmony, truthfulness, good works, charity, neighborliness, almsgiving, acceptance of religious pluralism, and diversity.

The religion of Islam does not support, preach, or advocate violence, discrimination, or terrorism in any way, shape, or form.

Extremist groups who claim to follow Islam are no more representative of Islam than David Koresh is of Christianity.

In the West, the concept of jihad has been improperly translated as 'holy war.' Instead, jihad means 'struggle' and refers, in particular, to the personal struggle that every Muslim engages in to live a peaceful and good life.

One of the basic precepts of Islam is the equality of all people regardless of race, ability, or gender.

Muslims believe that there is no compulsion in religion and that individuals are free to choose their own religion and beliefs.

Centuries before the women's movement in the West, Islam granted women the right to own property, to be educated, the right to inherit. In the West, in many instances, women did not receive these rights until centuries later.

'Arab' and 'Muslim' are not synonymous.
A Muslim is a person who follows the precepts of Islam.
'Arab,' on the other hand, is an ethnicity; it refers to a person from the Arabian peninsula.

Of the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, only 15% are Arabs.

Muslims are of every ethnicity on earth from sub-Saharan Africans to Europeans in Germany, Bosnia, and France; from African-Americans in Oakland, California, to Portuguese-speaking Brazilians. There are more than 50 million Muslims in China; more than 150 million in Indonesia.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States.

Christianity is currently the largest religion in the world. It is followed by about 33% of all people -- a percentage that has remained stable for decades. If current trends continue, Islam will become the most popular world religion sometime in the mid-21st century.
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time to buy a vowel, clueless.
You never actually contribute do you? For a 'successful' business man, you act surprisingly dumb.

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised though. I know who your friends are.
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You never actually contribute do you? For a 'successful' business man, you act surprisingly dumb.

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised though. I know who your friends are.
My friends would find you as invisible as I do.
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Sad. Your ignorance shows. Not surprising though.
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Sad. Your ignorance shows. Not surprising though.
Thank god I don't have your genius.
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The religion of Islam does not support, preach, or advocate violence, discrimination, or terrorism in any way, shape, or form.

Extremist groups who claim to follow Islam are no more representative of Islam than David Koresh is of Christianity.
Why does not one muslim cleric speak out against it.
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Explain ?
The treatment of women in muslim countries is just horrible.
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The treatment of women in muslim countries is just horrible.
It has nothing to do with the Koran.
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Why does not one muslim cleric speak out against it.
So, you have been following the media of those muslim countries and never seen anybody speak out against it?
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Koran also says Jews and Christians are your brothers.

thats the main reason jews lived all over the middle east Iraq, Iran... and on ..and prospered


When Islam was spreading everyone was forced to convert to Islam exept jews and christians


.. just some added facts
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[B]Islam is a world religion which has approximately 1.2 billion followers. That means that one in every five people on the planet is a Muslim. In short, Islam is not a minority phenomenon.
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The word Islam is best translated into English as 'commitment'. Followers of Islam, called Muslims, commit their lives to peace, harmony, truthfulness, good works, charity, neighborliness, almsgiving, acceptance of religious pluralism, and diversity.
Partially true. Islam is a combination of the words peace (salam in Arabic) and subjection or commitment (to God - silm in Arabic).

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The religion of Islam does not support, preach, or advocate violence, discrimination, or terrorism in any way, shape, or form.
Not true. Violence is allowed in war, for which there are set specific boundaries (i.e. when it is allowed and disallowed to attack and/or defend, and under which conditions)

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In the West, the concept of jihad has been improperly translated as 'holy war.' Instead, jihad means 'struggle' and refers, in particular, to the personal struggle that every Muslim engages in to live a peaceful and good life.
Partially true. Although Jihad means to struggle, it's most common usage is in the context of the struggle in war. Besides referring to war, the word jihad is also used to denote the struggle against your own desire (Mind is weaker than the flesh kind of thing).

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One of the basic precepts of Islam is the equality of all people regardless of race, ability, or gender.
Not true. Islam states that all people are equal, EXCEPT for their religious disposition (i.e., the more pious a man is, the higher his status)

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Muslims believe that there is no compulsion in religion and that individuals are free to choose their own religion and beliefs.
100% true.

Islam is not about terrorism. The reason why people have chosen terrorism now is because there is no leader in the Muslim world and many Muslims still fill they need to vent their anger about certain political and military that they feel were and are still directed against them. Terrorism is an un-Islamic response to this. The question is, would it be any better of it were an all-out war of state against state?

I'm not one to choose sides, but there's more to the story than what some might think. The reason why certain terrorist leaders have support amongst mainstream Muslims is not because they think Osama is such a handsome man... The West's conscience is not entirely clear in this matter either.

Again, not choosing sides, just saying that ignoring history doesn't make it go away.
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You're joking right? Better not mention your occupation while you're there ;)
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The question is, would it be any better of it were an all-out war of state against state?.

YES, they've been fighting between each other for centuries. they should do it again.
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I plan on making my Hajj soon to Mecca.A few of my friends have gone,and said it was a wonderful enlightening esperience
Make sure you aren't trampled to death. Seems to happen often there.
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