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Old 06-17-2003, 02:55 PM   #1
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Bill O'Reilly says internet free speech is bad

The reason these net people get away with all kinds of stuff is that they work for no one. They put stuff up with no restraints. This, of course, is dangerous, but it symbolizes what the Internet is becoming.

So all over the country, we have people posting the most vile stuff imaginable, hiding behind high tech capabilities. Sometimes the violators are punished, but most are not. We have now have teenagers ruining the reputations of their peers in schools on the Internet. Ideologues accusing public officials of the worst things imaginable. And creeps gossiping about celebrities in the crudest of ways.

The Internet has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89499,00.html



Apparenlty Bill doesn't like it when he can't just turn off the mic on people who make him look stupid.
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The Internet has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes.


Oh not like these right wing speakers lol. My brother quotes O'reilly and it turns my stomach.
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even then, its doesn't compare to the bullshit thrown around by politicians
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Oh not like these right wing speakers lol. My brother quotes O'reilly and it turns my stomach.
Your brother is a twerp.
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Bill O'Reilly is a child molester.
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Apparenlty Bill doesn't like it when he can't just turn off the mic on people who make him look stupid.

99 times out of 100, Bill is the one making the other guy look stupid.
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Of course he's against it. The whole point of his show is to do news with an edge, but those types of news shows are not what they once where. Mainly because stuff online can be 10x as extreme, and it walters down O'Reilly and other hosts like him.
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oh yeah, I much prefer the garbage that is spoonfed to everyone from the major networks that are slowly merging into one massive conglomerate who will never allow an opposing idea....
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Bill O'Reilly should be shot
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99 times out of 100, Bill is the one making the other guy look stupid.
99 times out of 100 he turns off the mike anytime someone points out that he's lying or making shit up.

It's pretty easy to win an argument when you're the only one talking.

There are probably a lot of sixth graders who could beat O'Reilly in an argument, but not as long as he controls the mic.
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:25 PM   #13
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the problem with Bill O'Reilly is that he wants to live in a fantasy land,

His idea of life is the Brady Bunch and Leave to beaver
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oh yeah, I much prefer the garbage that is spoonfed to everyone from the major networks that are slowly merging into one massive conglomerate who will never allow an opposing idea....
foxnews is owned by the largest media company in the world you retard

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Bill is a fucking cow...

Apparently he supports big media being controlled by a few people....just like the Nazis, Dictators & Communists like it...


what a fuck....

I bet he supports gun registration and confiscation too?

chipping away at the first amendment gets a lot easier if the gov isn't worried about a population with the 2nd....but I'm just a gun nutt




they can get me to stop speaking freely after they pry the gun from my cold dead hands...
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:36 PM   #18
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99 times out of 100 he turns off the mike anytime someone points out that he's lying or making shit up.
You've either never watched the show, or are just a total fucktard.

I've watched him just about every day for the past 3 years or so.. I've seen him cut the mic maybe 5 times. Every time it was when some fucking moron wouldn't stop babbleing long enough to let Bill or someone else talk, or they were trying to change the subject.
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Great listen:

http://www.littlemeanfish.com/media/oreilyfreakout.mp3

O'Reilly vs. Glick. (4:37)
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You've either never watched the show, or are just a total fucktard.

I've watched him just about every day for the past 3 years or so.. I've seen him cut the mic maybe 5 times. Every time it was when some fucking moron wouldn't stop babbleing long enough to let Bill or someone else talk, or they were trying to change the subject.
Are you trolling or joking?

I've only seen the show a few times and he's cut the mike off every single time.

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Are you trolling or joking?

I would ask the same of you.
Try watching the show more than a "few times".

Who knows, you might even learn something.
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welcome to reality dinkweed

http://www.newscorp.com/feg/index.html
that's what I'm talking about you fuckface, if only your mother had used a longer hanger....
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The Internet has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes.


You make O'Reilly's point for him...
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The reason these net people get away with all kinds of stuff is that they work for no one. They put stuff up with no restraints. This, of course, is dangerous, but it symbolizes what the Internet is becoming.

So all over the country, we have people posting the most vile stuff imaginable, hiding behind high tech capabilities. Sometimes the violators are punished, but most are not. We have now have teenagers ruining the reputations of their peers in schools on the Internet. Ideologues accusing public officials of the worst things imaginable. And creeps gossiping about celebrities in the crudest of ways.

The Internet has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89499,00.html



Apparenlty Bill doesn't like it when he can't just turn off the mic on people who make him look stupid.
I don't see anything in that quote you posted above where he flat out says free speach is bad. What he mentions above are things that do need regulation... because anywhere else, they could and often would be prosecutable. But on the net, it's easier to get away with so many illegal things.

Are you arguing that absolutely anything should go so long as it's online?
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Here's my version...



The reason this o'reilly show gets away with all kinds of stuff is that it is a prostitute to sensationalism. They put stuff up with no restraints. This, of course, is dangerous, but it symbolizes what television is becoming.

So all over the country, we have bill spewing the most vile stuff imaginable, hiding behind his conservative christian curtain. Sometimes the violator is punished, but usually not. So we now have have a jackass on television using his right to free speech to campaign against others' right to free speach. An arrogant facist accusing the internet of the worst things imaginable. O'reilly is a creep gossiping about every bit of dirt he can find, every day.

His show has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes - as long as its total garbage.
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The other night I was flipping channels and I saw that knob O'Reilly show an Eminem clip. Then he says that this is why it is obvious that in a decade rap will be a dinosaur, but Stevie Nicks is forever. Cut to Stevie clip.

This is not only surreal but indicative of the fact that the man's claims to having decent values are all a sham. He doesn't like rap because he is racist, not because he is concerned about the children. Stevie Nicks has had a lot more fun on the wild side than Eminem, but O'Reilly is OLD and RACIST and HETERO, so he likes a blonde girl with a sexy voice. Maybe if some folks who run MILF sites were to comp O'Reilly, he would be less cranky.

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The other night I was flipping channels and I saw that knob O'Reilly show an Eminem clip. Then he says that this is why it is obvious that in a decade rap will be a dinosaur, but Stevie Nicks is forever. Cut to Stevie clip.


Rap is just a stupid fad, like rock and roll.

Turn down that music!
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Just when I thought Fiction was the leading moron among us, AmiliaG and stizzous show up to try for the crown.
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This one is for you and Bill:

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The other night I was flipping channels and I saw that knob O'Reilly show an Eminem clip. Then he says that this is why it is obvious that in a decade rap will be a dinosaur, but Stevie Nicks is forever. Cut to Stevie clip.

This is not only surreal but indicative of the fact that the man's claims to having decent values are all a sham. He doesn't like rap because he is racist, not because he is concerned about the children. Stevie Nicks has had a lot more fun on the wild side than Eminem, but O'Reilly is OLD and RACIST and HETERO, so he likes a blonde girl with a sexy voice. Maybe if some folks who run MILF sites were to comp O'Reilly, he would be less cranky.

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You've either never watched the show, or are just a total fucktard.

I've watched him just about every day for the past 3 years or so.. I've seen him cut the mic maybe 5 times. Every time it was when some fucking moron wouldn't stop babbleing long enough to let Bill or someone else talk, or they were trying to change the subject.

Why do you hate America?
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I don't see anything in that quote you posted above where he flat out says free speach is bad. What he mentions above are things that do need regulation... because anywhere else, they could and often would be prosecutable. But on the net, it's easier to get away with so many illegal things.

Are you arguing that absolutely anything should go so long as it's online?
That's because O'reilly never said free speech was bad. He makes his living on freedom of speech.

His point was simple, any idiot can put up a web page and say, for instance Bush was responsible for Sept. 11th. And they don't have to back it up. Just look at what happened to the NY Times with the whole Jason Blair problem. They came clean albeit late but they had to clean house. The moron that puts up a slanderous or libel web page doesn't have to answer to anyone.
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Why do you hate America?

ROFL.

I love America.

I just hate stupid people.
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That's because O'reilly never said free speech was bad. He makes his living on freedom of speech.
Bullshit. He makes his money getting paid by a giant corporation to put out the messages that they allow him to put out. His job has little to do with free speech as long as he's working for Fox. If he said the wrong thing, he would be looking for work tomorrow.

People on the internet are the definition of free speech, not some huge government-backing corporation.

O'Reilly is mad because free speech can apply to everyone on the internet, not just to rich old white guys, like it was in "the good old days."

He should stop crying, the right wingers still own most of the U.S. media. They're just mad because they can't control the internet too.
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That's because O'reilly never said free speech was bad. He makes his living on freedom of speech.

His point was simple, any idiot can put up a web page and say, for instance Bush was responsible for Sept. 11th. And they don't have to back it up. Just look at what happened to the NY Times with the whole Jason Blair problem. They came clean albeit late but they had to clean house. The moron that puts up a slanderous or libel web page doesn't have to answer to anyone.
1)bush is a public figure, therefore he is not protected the same way individuals are from slander and libel
2)opinions are not slander/libel
3)since webpages are written slander does not figure into the internet
4)the fucking point of free speech is that any person (moron or genius) has the right to their opinion
5)you dont have to read webpages you dont like
6)a single person's opinion is not quite the same as NYT making bad a judgement call
7)you are clueless
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This one is for you and Bill:

Fuck Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac.

Just because I watch Bill every day, doesn't automatically mean that I agree with everything he says.

I disagree with his porn ramblings.

I disagree with his going after rap, eminem, and ludacris, marilyn manson, icp, etc.

I disagree with him using the "harmful to the children" and "what about the children" as a justification for several of his stances.

I disagree with some of his tactics, such as threatening boycots if he doesn't get his way, whil bashing Jessee Jackson for doing the same thing.

Among many other things...
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Fiction,

You need a new routine.
that whole "he works for a big evil corporation so he's bad" schtick got played out ten years ago, get off of michael moore's dick for 5 minutes and get some fresh air.
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Fiction,

You need a new routine.
that whole "he works for a big evil corporation so he's bad" schtick got played out ten years ago, get off of michael moore's dick for 5 minutes and get some fresh air.
Nice argument. Bet you did good in debate class.
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Never had a debate class.

I AM borrowing a bit from the current Democrat debate/arguement strategy though...

Make a few minor points, then resort to namecalling and badmouthing.
It's been working good for them lately.
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Bullshit. He makes his money getting paid by a giant corporation to put out the messages that they allow him to put out. His job has little to do with free speech as long as he's working for Fox. If he said the wrong thing, he would be looking for work tomorrow.

People on the internet are the definition of free speech, not some huge government-backing corporation.

O'Reilly is mad because free speech can apply to everyone on the internet, not just to rich old white guys, like it was in "the good old days."

He should stop crying, the right wingers still own most of the U.S. media. They're just mad because they can't control the internet too.
blah blah blah.,.........

WRONG! As usual! lol Idiot!
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:37 PM   #45
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Bill O'reilly thinks that any speech that doesn't agree with him shouldn't be allowed.
I can tell you get your info from Mr Fiction and you've watched absolutely nothing of O'Reilly!
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:51 PM   #46
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hey Bill, suck my dick!
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:54 PM   #47
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Republicanspeak:

Why do those fucking loser crybaby asshole Democrats like to call people names?



Freedom Fries.

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Old 06-17-2003, 09:00 PM   #48
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The Internet has become a sewer of slander and libel, an unpatrolled polluted waterway, where just about anything goes.

Point in case... GFY.
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Old 06-17-2003, 09:14 PM   #49
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Come on I want to make an example out of Mr.Fiction. I am just drunk enough to do it to. Someone respond to my post.
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Old 06-17-2003, 09:18 PM   #50
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types of people that watch o'reilly

1)republicans who are impressed with his no-nonsense approach and his conservative values. although they may disagree every now and then, they usually just accept what he says because it probably sounds logical at first and they feel comfortable holding a majority opinion rather than think through issues themselves

2)democrats who are outraged by his incessant arrogance. they take pride in the fact that they disagree with every single issue he presents because after all he is just a tool for the corporate giants...but they will never give him any credit for any good point he may make

3)undecided people who dont really care too much about the issues, but like watching the show because its fun to watch people argue

4)people who watched the show for a little bit and liked his style....but then stopped watching because they realized the following:

a)SENSATIONALISM - his entire job consists of finding opposing opinions and exploiting them, whether they relavant or not
b)he gets his popularity through hatred - republicans watch to trash democrats, and vice versa
c)if he really gave a damn about helping people like he acts he would find common ground that both republicans and democrats can work together to achieve, not just play both sides against each other
d)his show has no value...not as a news source, not as a debate forum, not as a voice for the majorit or minority...it is Jerry Springer without the chairs



so obviously i have stopped watching the show as i have realized the things i have just listed....can anyone guess if I am democrat or republican?? the winner gets a cookie
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