Hotlink Protection Script Comparison AHL vs HLP vs ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Keev · 06-17-2003, 02:29 PM

I am going to be buying a hotlink protection script curious what other alternatives are out there....

AHL? AntiHotlinking.com

AHL (AntiHotLinker) from http://www.antihotlinking.com/ is the only working solution to protect movies against hotlinking. There was no way to protect movies correctly until now. AHL (AntiHotLinker) is the ultimate solution everyone was asking for.

Protects all file types (default .asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm)

Protects all your existing documents without any modifications required in these documents.

Does not require any special coding in your HTML documents.

Runs on Unix/Linux server at the Apache level with minimal server load and memory usage.

Supports unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts).

TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts.

Gives full control of the hotlinking traffic. You can redirect it to you favorite destination.

You will make your investment back in no time by redirecting hotlinkers to your sponsors.

PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH - http://www.antihotlinking.com/

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Hotlink Protector (http://www.hotlinkprotector.com) is the newest, safest, easiest, and most efficeint program out there that protects your files from being hotlinked.

Protects all file types (.asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm .jpg .jpeg .gif), you can add or remove filetypes as you please

No cookies requried for Hotlink Protector to work, no jav.a.scrip.t either.

Does not require any changes to special coding to be made to your HTML pages

Designate an infinite amount of domains as "safe" domains, where users from any "safe" domain are able to download from your server

Detailed logging that shows the sites that have tried to hotlink your content, amount of accesses blocked for each file and domain, a list of files that were protected from hotlinking, as well as statistics to show how much bandwidth you have saved.

A complex algorithm that makes sure that users from your site (and only your site) are able to download files through any method they desire, whether its letting media player (which does not send referrers) open a movie file, using any download accelerator to download files, etc, without having to leave your files vulnerable to copying/pasting URLs in order to send the empty referrer.

Runs on Unix/Linux server

100% TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts. (screenshot from worldsex.com TGP Brownie submission)

The ability to send the hotlinkers the file you choose based on the extension of the file they tried to steal from you.

http://www.hotlinkprotector.com

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Other solutions out there? Your Experiences ?

Pipecrew · 06-17-2003, 02:32 PM

HLP seems to do the same for 4 times less.

Keev · 06-17-2003, 03:19 PM

Need some more feedback I wanna have something installed witha couple hours

smut monger · 06-17-2003, 03:37 PM

errrmm, if I were you I'd ask some tech from www.cheapbw.com , I suppose he got "cookie" solution right beside his hand

they were the only host I know which got clue about anti-hotlink protection for movies

J.

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 03:41 PM

im the coder of Hotlink Protector..

ive had dozens of guys purchasing my script, all have had no complaints. If you have any questions, hit me up on ICQ

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 04:10 PM

try the demo here
http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html

Keev · 06-17-2003, 05:02 PM

Well I took the chance on the HLP version for the hell of it becuase i needed something in place really fast and well the results were great.

Chopped BW in half from 15 mbit to 6 mbit.... Tonight we will see how it does when he server would have peaked around 25-30 mbit when submitting and see how hight it gets with the script in place.

I can't say the AHL is any different, better or worse but these scripts seem to do the job. If a hacker can download it fine he earned it but if it blocks 99% fine with me. I would reccomend you look into getting a copy of ahl or hlp for yourself.

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
Well I took the chance on the HLP version for the hell of it becuase i needed something in place really fast and well the results were great.

Chopped BW in half from 15 mbit to 6 mbit.... Tonight we will see how it does when he server would have peaked around 25-30 mbit when submitting and see how hight it gets with the script in place.

I can say the AHL is any different, better or worse but this seemed to do the job. If a hacker can download it fine he earned it but if it blocks 99% fine with me.

glad you like it =)

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
HLP seems to do the same for 4 times less.

exactly

Juicy D. Links · 06-17-2003, 08:48 PM

http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html

goBigtime · 06-17-2003, 08:50 PM

We'll be releasing something very soon & then you'll slap your skull for not waiting ;)

Bear · 06-17-2003, 09:49 PM

I do use antihotlinking.com. It get the job done without problem.

Is there any differences for hotlinkprotector.com? Why the software require php? If I want to install it at another server, am I need to get another copy? Any discount?

If there is any features that antihotlinking lacks, I might give it a try.

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 10:39 PM

bear
you can use our script on as many domains as you like (provided you own the domains)

AHL is way too expensive

discount? my scripts only $60 lol

and check out the testimonials to see what other people are saying

Bear · 06-17-2003, 10:59 PM

But how about additinal server? Am I need to buy another copy?

michaelw · 06-17-2003, 11:39 PM

no
one purchase for all your domains

AlxCds · 06-17-2003, 11:46 PM

what do these programs do that is so special that cant be done with a simple .htaceess?

Ludedude · 06-18-2003, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlxCds
what do these programs do that is so special that cant be done with a simple .htaceess?

A regular htaccess file based on referring URL is useless for movies since movie players (Windows Media for example) don't hold the http_referer variable, hence your server doesn't know fuck-all about where this person came from. This means you can't use simple htaccess.

There is a form of htaccess you can use based on cookies/jav.a.script that works fine for members areas but it's bad news for TGP galleries since most tgp's don't allow jav.a.script on the gallery.

Arty · 06-18-2003, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude

A regular htaccess file based on referring URL is useless for movies since movie players (Windows Media for example) don't hold the http_referer variable, hence your server doesn't know fuck-all about where this person came from. This means you can't use simple htaccess.

That's the point. But if you don't need the clients click & watch, you may alternatively let them download it first as video files or zip. So you can protect it with .htaccess.

liquidmoe · 06-18-2003, 01:02 AM

True but depending on the movie gallery checker the gallery may get rejected and it doesnt help if you stream the movie straight into your HTML. Also might turn off some surfers as not everyone knows what zip is, or will bother with zip, less movie preview watching = less people clicking through to sponsors.

Keev · 06-18-2003, 08:41 AM

Well here are the result for the first 12hrs roughly

20299825.44 KB saved

= 19.35 GIGS SAVED in 12 hours

1 thing i noticed is this script puts a heavy load on server resources.

Ludedude · 06-18-2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
Well here are the result for the first 12hrs roughly

20299825.44 KB saved

= 19.35 GIGS SAVED in 12 hours

That's good.

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
1 thing i noticed is this script puts a heavy load on server resources.

That's bad.

michaelw · 06-18-2003, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
Well here are the result for the first 12hrs roughly

20299825.44 KB saved

= 19.35 GIGS SAVED in 12 hours

1 thing i noticed is this script puts a heavy load on server resources.

keev, if its saving like 40 gigs a day (which is a shitload), turn off logging for it to minimize server load by a lot =)

x3m · 06-18-2003, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
Well here are the result for the first 12hrs roughly

20299825.44 KB saved

= 19.35 GIGS SAVED in 12 hours

1 thing i noticed is this script puts a heavy load on server resources.

I guess it's about time I will step in since people are discussing AHL here.

Server Load. Well, guess what, AHL is written for high load environment. I personally use it on a server with 70+ mbps traffic and AHL adds an unnoticeble amount of server load.

Let me clear another thing up. AHL is NOT a script. When you say script, such as php, cgi, or anything else, you say Server Load!!!

I hope, the other guy's script does the job and holds the traffic like AHL does, but we tested out AHL for over 3 month on our own servers to ensure it's 100% compatibility with AOL, TGPs, paysite members areas and so on.

It's been another 3+ months since we released AHL and we don't have a single unsatisfied client till this day. AHL is run by many top movie webmasters and quite a few hosting companies.

Lastly, as far as the price... We are not planning on lowering the price because of the "competition". We get orders every day and those who use AHL, bring all of their friends and we work 24/7 for this money with each and every client, not only setting up AHL on their servers but also helping out everyone to set up their servers properly to hold serious traffic to make serious money.

When you think AHL, think Mercedes.

Why · 06-18-2003, 10:38 AM

one time fee, versus one time fee thats 4 times as much PLUS monthly charges.....

tell the guy with the monthly charges to bit your fucking ass!

Keev · 06-18-2003, 01:55 PM

AHL pls contact me might want to compare the 2 scripts and see.

A couple things set you apart in how the scripts work, and might effect signups which in turn means more money saved.

Keev · 06-18-2003, 06:38 PM

YO AHL peeps CONTACT ME

104463163

x3m · 06-20-2003, 01:51 AM

We're monitoring emails 24/7 and get up on ICQ when we have to. We rarely have the time to browse the boards. If you cannot get a hold of us here or on ICQ please use [email protected] and we will be there for you when you need us.

Keev, if you would like to test AHL, I can have you set up for a free 1 week trial. Let me know if you're interested. :-)

Thanks.

raymor · 06-20-2003, 04:19 AM

Over at TLA's board Justin asked me to compare
that script to StrongBox, currently the leading
security solution.
Here's a copy of that comparison:
> and is the one below a viable alternative

That one is a viable way to protect just your movies,
provided that the rest of your members area is secured in
some other way.
It is NOT a security solution for the site itself,
but rather an add-on to make referer based protection
(such as Mike's Blackbox) or basic user/pass protection
also work with movies.

> I'd like you to tell me whats the difference between this and SB

Strongbox provides crytographically secure protection
for the WHOLE site.
It provides a defense against brute force attack posted passwords,
referer spoofing, etc. The referenced link provides none
of that. Their software requires you to buy some other product
to protect the members area generally and then extends that
protection to the videos.

Another difference is price. Their software is $200.
Strongbox is $35 for AVS sites and $65 for pay sites.
Also, Strongbox is designed for performance and low overhead.
Their software requires reading and parsing a large disk
file with every hit, which will degrade performance.
Strongbox requires only a "stat" system call.

In short, Strongbox provides everything that script does,
plus WAY more, at a much better price.
Lastly, Strongbox has the added feature that it automatically
creates the meta files for you in order to properly stream videos.

> I also wanted to know if your SB will work in conjunction
> with updating scripts like Old Toms and stuff?

Strongbox will work with just about any script.
Often, on a site with such a script installed, one config variable
needs to be changed in order to be compatible.
This has to do with the relative vs. absolute links.
Scripts often have a config varibale to set the base URL.
This needs to be set to /members/ rather than you.com/members/.
As long as the base URL is set right, it works great.

Ray

PS - StrongBox info can be found at:
StrongBox

p00p · 06-20-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raymor
[StrongBox info can be found at:
StrongBox [/B]

Ok.
I have lots of mpg's in my members area. They are not imbedded, thus they will not stream, media player asks for username/password.
With your script, will the videos stream in a password protected members area? If so, how?

Pipecrew · 06-20-2003, 08:19 AM

I just purchased Hotlink Protector and I have been very impressed so far, I also use alot of bandwidth and it is not eating up server resources so I'am happy.

p00p · 06-20-2003, 10:09 AM

x3m · 06-20-2003, 10:42 AM

raymor,

While AHL can be used to protect movies in members areas, it is not what it was designed for. It was designed to protect movies against hotlinking on free (not password protected) pages, sach as movie galleries.

michaelw · 06-20-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
I just purchased Hotlink Protector and I have been very impressed so far, I also use alot of bandwidth and it is not eating up server resources so I'am happy.

Thank you

I dont know why people feel that more expensive = better. I have it running on dozens of customers sites, including judsmovies.com, juicylinks.com, avs-hq, linkpost, etc. On a couple of servers its blocking 90,000+ requests a day (thats about a million requests total a day that it allows), and this is with all the options enabled. The script uses minimal resources, and you cant even notice it when logging is turned off.

HLP does EVERYTHING AHL does, except its affordable. Stopping hotlinking some movies on your server should not cost you $200/server.

06-17-2003, 02:29 PM	#1
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Hotlink Protection Script Comparison AHL vs HLP vs ? I am going to be buying a hotlink protection script curious what other alternatives are out there.... AHL? AntiHotlinking.com AHL (AntiHotLinker) from http://www.antihotlinking.com/ is the only working solution to protect movies against hotlinking. There was no way to protect movies correctly until now. AHL (AntiHotLinker) is the ultimate solution everyone was asking for. Protects all file types (default .asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm) Protects all your existing documents without any modifications required in these documents. Does not require any special coding in your HTML documents. Runs on Unix/Linux server at the Apache level with minimal server load and memory usage. Supports unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts). TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts. Gives full control of the hotlinking traffic. You can redirect it to you favorite destination. You will make your investment back in no time by redirecting hotlinkers to your sponsors. PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH - http://www.antihotlinking.com/ ------------------------------------------------------- Hotlink Protector (http://www.hotlinkprotector.com) is the newest, safest, easiest, and most efficeint program out there that protects your files from being hotlinked. Protects all file types (.asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm .jpg .jpeg .gif), you can add or remove filetypes as you please No cookies requried for Hotlink Protector to work, no jav.a.scrip.t either. Does not require any changes to special coding to be made to your HTML pages Designate an infinite amount of domains as "safe" domains, where users from any "safe" domain are able to download from your server Detailed logging that shows the sites that have tried to hotlink your content, amount of accesses blocked for each file and domain, a list of files that were protected from hotlinking, as well as statistics to show how much bandwidth you have saved. A complex algorithm that makes sure that users from your site (and only your site) are able to download files through any method they desire, whether its letting media player (which does not send referrers) open a movie file, using any download accelerator to download files, etc, without having to leave your files vulnerable to copying/pasting URLs in order to send the empty referrer. Runs on Unix/Linux server 100% TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts. (screenshot from worldsex.com TGP Brownie submission) The ability to send the hotlinkers the file you choose based on the extension of the file they tried to steal from you. http://www.hotlinkprotector.com -------------------------------------------------------- Other solutions out there? Your Experiences ? __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

06-17-2003, 03:19 PM	#3
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Need some more feedback I wanna have something installed witha couple hours __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

06-17-2003, 03:37 PM	#4
smut monger Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 211	errrmm, if I were you I'd ask some tech from www.cheapbw.com , I suppose he got "cookie" solution right beside his hand they were the only host I know which got clue about anti-hotlink protection for movies J. __________________ PRO LIFE

06-17-2003, 03:41 PM	#5
michaelw Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 1,342	im the coder of Hotlink Protector.. ive had dozens of guys purchasing my script, all have had no complaints. If you have any questions, hit me up on ICQ __________________ <b><a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com"><font color="yellow">Hotlink Protector</font></a> - Protect all your file types from hotlinking the professional way. <br> See a demo <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a>, and testimonials <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a><br>ICQ: 146423631

06-17-2003, 04:10 PM	#6
michaelw Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 1,342	try the demo here http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html __________________ <b><a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com"><font color="yellow">Hotlink Protector</font></a> - Protect all your file types from hotlinking the professional way. <br> See a demo <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a>, and testimonials <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a><br>ICQ: 146423631

06-17-2003, 02:32 PM	#2
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	HLP seems to do the same for 4 times less.

06-17-2003, 05:02 PM	#7
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Well I took the chance on the HLP version for the hell of it becuase i needed something in place really fast and well the results were great. Chopped BW in half from 15 mbit to 6 mbit.... Tonight we will see how it does when he server would have peaked around 25-30 mbit when submitting and see how hight it gets with the script in place. I can't say the AHL is any different, better or worse but these scripts seem to do the job. If a hacker can download it fine he earned it but if it blocks 99% fine with me. I would reccomend you look into getting a copy of ahl or hlp for yourself. __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK! Last edited by Keev; 06-17-2003 at 05:05 PM..

06-17-2003, 08:48 PM	#10
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html

06-17-2003, 08:50 PM	#11
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	We'll be releasing something very soon & then you'll slap your skull for not waiting ;)

06-17-2003, 09:49 PM	#12
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	I do use antihotlinking.com. It get the job done without problem. Is there any differences for hotlinkprotector.com? Why the software require php? If I want to install it at another server, am I need to get another copy? Any discount? If there is any features that antihotlinking lacks, I might give it a try.

06-17-2003, 10:39 PM	#13
michaelw Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 1,342	bear you can use our script on as many domains as you like (provided you own the domains) AHL is way too expensive discount? my scripts only $60 lol and check out the testimonials to see what other people are saying __________________ <b><a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com"><font color="yellow">Hotlink Protector</font></a> - Protect all your file types from hotlinking the professional way. <br> See a demo <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a>, and testimonials <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a><br>ICQ: 146423631

06-17-2003, 10:59 PM	#14
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	But how about additinal server? Am I need to buy another copy?

06-17-2003, 11:39 PM	#15
michaelw Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 1,342	no one purchase for all your domains __________________ <b><a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com"><font color="yellow">Hotlink Protector</font></a> - Protect all your file types from hotlinking the professional way. <br> See a demo <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/demo.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a>, and testimonials <a href="http://www.hotlinkprotector.com/testimonials.html"><font color="yellow">here</font></a><br>ICQ: 146423631

06-17-2003, 11:46 PM	#16
AlxCds Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 95	what do these programs do that is so special that cant be done with a simple .htaceess?

06-18-2003, 01:02 AM	#19
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	True but depending on the movie gallery checker the gallery may get rejected and it doesnt help if you stream the movie straight into your HTML. Also might turn off some surfers as not everyone knows what zip is, or will bother with zip, less movie preview watching = less people clicking through to sponsors.

06-18-2003, 08:41 AM	#20
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Well here are the result for the first 12hrs roughly 20299825.44 KB saved = 19.35 GIGS SAVED in 12 hours 1 thing i noticed is this script puts a heavy load on server resources. __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

06-18-2003, 10:38 AM	#24
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	one time fee, versus one time fee thats 4 times as much PLUS monthly charges..... tell the guy with the monthly charges to bit your fucking ass!

06-18-2003, 01:55 PM	#25
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	AHL pls contact me might want to compare the 2 scripts and see. A couple things set you apart in how the scripts work, and might effect signups which in turn means more money saved. __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK! Last edited by Keev; 06-18-2003 at 01:59 PM..

06-18-2003, 06:38 PM	#26
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	YO AHL peeps CONTACT ME 104463163 __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

06-20-2003, 01:51 AM	#27
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	We're monitoring emails 24/7 and get up on ICQ when we have to. We rarely have the time to browse the boards. If you cannot get a hold of us here or on ICQ please use [email protected] and we will be there for you when you need us. Keev, if you would like to test AHL, I can have you set up for a free 1 week trial. Let me know if you're interested. :-) Thanks.

06-20-2003, 04:19 AM	#28
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Over at TLA's board Justin asked me to compare that script to StrongBox, currently the leading security solution. Here's a copy of that comparison: > and is the one below a viable alternative That one is a viable way to protect just your movies, provided that the rest of your members area is secured in some other way. It is NOT a security solution for the site itself, but rather an add-on to make referer based protection (such as Mike's Blackbox) or basic user/pass protection also work with movies. > I'd like you to tell me whats the difference between this and SB Strongbox provides crytographically secure protection for the WHOLE site. It provides a defense against brute force attack posted passwords, referer spoofing, etc. The referenced link provides none of that. Their software requires you to buy some other product to protect the members area generally and then extends that protection to the videos. Another difference is price. Their software is $200. Strongbox is $35 for AVS sites and $65 for pay sites. Also, Strongbox is designed for performance and low overhead. Their software requires reading and parsing a large disk file with every hit, which will degrade performance. Strongbox requires only a "stat" system call. In short, Strongbox provides everything that script does, plus WAY more, at a much better price. Lastly, Strongbox has the added feature that it automatically creates the meta files for you in order to properly stream videos. > I also wanted to know if your SB will work in conjunction > with updating scripts like Old Toms and stuff? Strongbox will work with just about any script. Often, on a site with such a script installed, one config variable needs to be changed in order to be compatible. This has to do with the relative vs. absolute links. Scripts often have a config varibale to set the base URL. This needs to be set to /members/ rather than you.com/members/. As long as the base URL is set right, it works great. Ray PS - StrongBox info can be found at: StrongBox __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

06-20-2003, 08:19 AM	#30
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	I just purchased Hotlink Protector and I have been very impressed so far, I also use alot of bandwidth and it is not eating up server resources so I'am happy.

06-20-2003, 10:09 AM	#31
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	bump __________________ ICQ: 316365783 <a href="http://www.hostultra.com/~p00p" target="_blank">TEST</a>

06-20-2003, 10:42 AM	#32
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	raymor, While AHL can be used to protect movies in members areas, it is not what it was designed for. It was designed to protect movies against hotlinking on free (not password protected) pages, sach as movie galleries.