Hey Tony, how you been? :)

Glad to hear the diet is going well. Keep it up!

Personally I had a difficult time when I tried Atkins, but the science behind it is very sound. After 30 years of calling Atkins a quack the medical community if FINALLY scratching their heads and saying "shit, this guy was right all along..." Too bad he passed away just as he was getting the recognition he deserves...

Good luck to you both!

Andrew

Hey, doing good. We have to get together for lunch one day. We can go to the most atkins friendly restaurant in the world Fogo de Chao :)

Congrats on the diet. A few of us here, including myself, are on the Adkins and the results have been great. In conjunction with 4-5 visits to the gym per week, I've lost 17 pounds (from 193 to 176) in almost two months I'm in the maintainence phase now meaning I've upped my carb intake slightly from the initial 20 grams a day.
If you don't cheat and stay the course, it works.:winkwink:

Thank you!
This is also another myth. Atkins is low carb...not low carb/high protein. It is far from a high protein lifestyle.

Thanks Andrew!

Yeah believe some quack who is trying to sell his own book. Atkins is not a high protein diet.

Ah, have no idea about Atkins, just gleaned what folks have said to me in earshot...

Good thing is not high protein, way to constipating!

Best of luck on your continued success, keep us informed babee :-)

CONGRATS CONGRATS AND MORE CONGRATS:thumbsup

:1orglaugh

the irony is almost painful

Scarfing 150+ grams of protein a day.. and many people on Atkins eat far more than that.. is high protein.

Have you read the book if not your words mean nothing. lol

Yup. But unlike yourself I've read quite alot of other reasearch too, like this..

"In contrast, an independent, peer-reviewed, extremely comprehensive study on the effects of individuals following an Atkin?s approach studied heart function with before and after blood flow evaluations with sophisticated medical tools including myocardial perfusion imaging, echocardiograpy and serial blood work. The study showed the blood flow to the heart diminished by an average of 40% after one year on such a high saturated fat, high protein diet and increased inflammatory markers that predict heart attacks. In contrast, a low saturated fat diet given to the control group improved blood flow to the heart by more than 40%. This study clearly illustrated a high protein diet is too dangerous for anyone to consider, even for a short time. Of course this study was ignored by the media as it wasn?t promoted by the Atkins organization high profile publicity department. It has also been found that ketogenic diets can cause dilatation of the heart muscle and cardiomyopathy that is reversible if the diet is stopped in time.13 Many readers may remember Dr. Atkins himself had a heart attack about a year ago caused by a cardiomyopathy. Of course, the spin was that it had nothing to do with his diet and was due to a virus."

Reference: 12 Fleming RM. The effect of high-protein diets on coronary blood flow. Angiology 2000;51(10):817-826.

I'm not after anyone on Atkins personally by the way, I just find it amusing that this diet has become a fundamentalist religion.

Its got a savior, a salvific methodology, a theology of sorts, and, perhaps most tellingly, anyone who dares criticize it is subjected to a modern version of a stake burning by some of its more fanatical devotees.

Once again read the book , I dont eat high saturated fat, high protein diet .The fat in atkins your supposed to have is olive oil , omega 3 and 6. Also bodybuilders have been eating high protein diets for years, 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight is pretty high . Never heard of any them dying from high protein drugs yes high protein no. Those doctors have been pushing this low fat high carb bull shit and we are fatter as a nation then we ever had been. More doctors are seeing the points of a low carb nonprocessed life style. Also about the heart attack thing Atkins was 71 yrs old been on his diet for 30 yrs , running a major and playing tennis a couple of times a week. Lets see have many 71's can do that.

I'm surprised you people haven't built churches and started conducting worship services yet. Since Atkins has, uh, ascended, you could even bring in John Edwards and get some channeling going.

How much weight would you lose if you just ate regular food and went to the gym the same amount? Would be interesting for a few people to try the diet and exercise and a few people to just exercise.

This is a silly, childish generalization, typical of Atkins zealots. Everyone agrees that eating lots of refined carbs is bad, not just Atkins, and no Doctors have been pushing the high ultra-refined carb diets that most americans eat.

Of course you would know that if you'd read something other than your Holy Atkins Scriptures :winkwink:

Flip, I think I have to check this out.

Thats where you are so wrong , I have read more diet books,fitness magazines and have been on more different diets for the past 20 yrs than you can imagine. So you are very wrong about that.

A good grain that has the lowest amount of carbs out of them all by weight, and makes a great salad, is quinoa. Check out the following recipes:

Soybean Quinoa Salad

Quinoa Salad with Shrimp and Asparagus

Great, although lesser known grain, and quite high in protein. Often used by vegans to supplement their dietary protein needs.

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How's your mood?

I had mood swings when I was on it.

The first week and half sucked but now I feel better than I have ever felt. My wife is the happy go lucky kid I fell in love with again. People can say all the bullshit about Atkins they want, all I know is I feel good and I am not craving. Even at its worst its better then having a threesome with Ben and Jerry everynight lol

Atkins has been ridiculed for 30 years. In the last few years, more and more mainstream health groups have acknowledged the benefits. Slowly, all the myths are falling ...

I get sick of eating plain cheese burgers without the bun and I cannot use ketchup I just found out...........:(

Read the book, get receipes from atkinsfriends.com. For this to work well you have to start cooking and kill all those fast food habits.

Yep, we're one dangerous cult! Every other Friday we meet at the local Masonic Lodge where we offer up bread as a sacrifice to St. Atkins.

On our high holy days, we make a spaghetti and pour it down our holy drain to prove our allegiance!

What is AMUSING are folks like you who take anything that someone believes in and turns it around as some sort of "zealot group" so you can poke fun.

Go ahead and have your fun. Make your jokes. For me personally, I'm just really too busy to give you much more attention on this issue because I have a healthy life to lead.

Gutter..quick..look over there..it's a large Danish with your name on it!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Could you be a tad more specific? What in your opinion amounts to "regular food."

It's not like we're feasting on seaweed here.

If you're saying you can't use ketchup because of the amount of sugar in it, I would urge you to try Keto's ketchup. It's priced fairly and damn..it's very tasty! I use a lot of ketchup, and I love this Keto brand. It's available in your local health food stores, not to mention on a gazillion websites on the net.

http://www13.netrition.com/keto_ketchup_page.html

lo carb ketchup problem solved :)

When training a hawk, you need to keep it hungry.

Tame your beast.

Not here..we EAT the meat!:Graucho

beavis, almost every grocery store has Estee brand sugar-free ketchup. It's got 5 total carbs per serving but you only have to count two of them because you don't have to count the sugar alcohol carbs. So you could have six whole tablespoons of it on a burger and only get 12 net carbs. :)

Plus, it tastes just like regular ketchup! VERY yummy.

Why tame the beast when I can slaughter it, grill it up to a juicy medium and chow it down while still keeping fit? Duh. Doesn't take alot of sense to realize that it's silly to do more than necessary. :1orglaugh

You're so cute when you've got a tad bit of ketchup dripping down the side of your mouth!:winkwink:

Lost 20 pounds in 8 months without Atkins.

Used to be 200, just hit 179 a few days ago... Feel lite on my feet like a chipmunk on speed...

:thumbsup

Want to know how?

sure....

That's great. I lost 30 pounds in less than 8 weeks with Atkins. 185 --> 155.

All this talk about meat reminds me I am mad at my girlfriend. She made me read "Fast Food Nation" and now I am not sure I can eat red meat again, but when I was on the atkins diet, I went from 220 lbs to this


<a href = "http://www.stephentakacs.com/photos/stephen-takacs10.htm"> me now </a>



Don't I look Good :winkwink:

Tons and tons of speed???



j/k:1orglaugh

Me adulterate steak with ketchup? You must have mistaken me for someone else. I'm a firm believer that steak is best with a little salt and maybe a dash of pepper. Nothing more. When I go out to eat I always ask the waitress if their steaks are marinated, and if they say yes, I order chicken. :)

That steak that Cypher is eating when he's in the restaurant with Agent Smith in The Matrix looks mighty yummy! Makes me hungry every time I see it! I wonder what cut that is. Looks like it's probably filet or sirloin?

A really good steak is like a hot chick... warm, juicy and pink inside. :thumbsup

Stupid typos. *sigh*