Um...no it isn't. :)

Maybe Evan should send them a C and D;)

Evan and Michael have always shown they have integrity and class in all of their dealings with me over the years. They are innovative and exceptional businessmen. I have complete faith in their being proven innocent in this matter. Some people around here have nothing better to do than jumping to conclusions and tearing people down. If you are looking to do business with an ethical and honest program that will make you money and pay you year after year theres none I would recommend more than Xpays!

Joe Segal

Hope to see the xpays boys in Vegas this weekend. I am sure they will give me the full scoop.

As much as I may dislike Evan, I do not like to see anyone in the business sued as it may have deeper implications.

I downloaded the suit yesterday, and if "they" are guilty of what Microsoft says, they hit the chronic one too many times. They have made MILLIONS mailing.

It is plain stupid to do some of those things. But as OJ says, innocent until proven guilty.

I agree wholeheartedly, Joseph!

What some webmasters fail to realize (or care to), is that Xpays does not hide who they are ... they're not hiding behind offshore entities like BIG SPAMMERS do. If you do a whois on any of their domains they point back to XPAYS in San Francisco. Why? Because there are no reasons for them to hide.

Any company that does email marketing or runs an affiliate program could easily be a target for a lawsuit.

READ: Any program can have affiliates that SPAM, spoof, or anything else underhanded, and the SPONSOR will catch the blame.

In this case, it's a lawsuit spearheaded by Microsoft that looks more like a PR campaign to say:

"Look, we're cleaning up OUR email services and going after NASTY SPAMMERS ... come sign up for a Hotmail account or an MSN account ... you're safe with Microsoft"

Whether or not the SPONSOR can prove their innocence is of no consequence. If they're targeted, at the very least - they're going to have to fight a costly legal battle.

My belief is that Xpays will come out of this and be exonerated!

Just my :2 cents:

Styles, Shaw, and all the rest of you spammers! You are standing behind Evan and his spamming business because you are all guilty of doing the same thing.

I would like to see Evan go down big time if he is guilty. And all of you who are doing the same should follow Evan into the black hole of spamming idiots.

Good luck in court! Ha Ha:321GFY

Me standing behind Evan? hahaha.

Evan and I are not as tight as we used to be, but I do not like to see microsfot vs. anyone in this business.

Gotcha, BRAD SHAW! Welcome back to the boards. You have brought me many hours of entertainment.

I'm not crazy about Microsoft, but xpays has been spamming the be-Jesus out of my email accounts for the past two years. Why should Evan and his idiots be protected! He is bringing all the big dogs like Microsoft and the US Govt down on everyone.

Hey Brad...I heard that your attorney told you to stay off the boards or you were going to be in deep shit. If this is true, it's a gutsy move to return.

Congratulations to you on your engagement. We would like to see more of those great fishing pics you use to show us.

Has this been posted yet:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3020566.stm

The guy claims be didn't spam anyone. He says he just bought an expired domain that a spammer used to own.

I don't know if it's true or just an excuse, but we've seen all kinds of legal threats and problems when you buy expired domains, so anything is possible.

My fiancee told me to get off the boards, not my lawyer;-) She lets me post now though on a very limited basis!

I am ready to go fishing again soon, want to hit up some huge tarpon in tampa flats soon.

I hate to see anyone in our industry have problems like this.

Anyone who has been in this industry for a while has skeletons....

This is a bad thing for all of us.

Good luck Evan and I am sure in the end you'll work it out for the best.

grow some balls.

Hey Ike, I hate to see innocent people get sued, but the guilty ones deserve no support. What excuse can a major porn spammer have? Sure, Evan is a likable guy, but he has been spamming the shit out of me, so why should I care what happens to him. Since I am one of his victims, why should I stand by and wish him well.

If he spammed me, why would I assume he didn't spam millions of others. This industry has to clean up its act or we will be squelched by the conservatives who already hate us.

I remember when the babenet.com guys were the hotshot dollys of the porn world. Look at them now. They were scumbags years ago and even bigger scumbags now. I will gladly be a witness for microsoft or Ash-hahahahaha if they need my help. Some of these porn bastards have made my life miserable.

HAPPY FISHING, BRAD!

Am I more likable then Evan?

I still have balls, they are sore, after Grimm punched me in them Saturday night!

You act as if non-adult companies don't spam. :warning

Did your fiancee have to approve that too?

Let me ask her!

I hear Dallas is trying to get rid of AOB's again.

John, everybody spams but me (wink wink)

For a while, I didn't mind a few bits of spam coming into my email. Then it started to increase. And today I wade through the spam to find something that is really for me. Many times there are viruses attached to the spam. I HATE IT!

Most of my latest spam is from sites that are selling prescription drugs. Well, I decided to try one. My drugs came from India to Denmark - to England - to New York - to CUSTOMS - to Los Angeles - to the USPS - and eventually to me after 5 weeks. The price was 5 times what I would pay here in the U.S.

Creative spam is acceptable, but the junk I receive is a total waste of my time.

DOWN WITH PORN SPAMMERS -- DOWN WITH ALL SPAMMERS!!

And Brad, you are more likable than Evan. I'm sorry I missed you in LV a couple of years ago when I thought you and Serge were going to push each other in the face. I think the two of you shook hands and had a beer! Oh well! Next time you really get pissed off, let me know, and I will show up with my camera and some cortisone cream.

hahaha, confucy on acid is a site to behold.

Just curious, but were you/your company sued in the wake of the Columbine shootings? One of many people the parents of victims tried to blame the shootings on?

If so, what ever became of that?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

from one girl to the next.

well that's a surprise.

XPays never sent 1 email spoofing anybody ever!

Also we will pay a reward or hourly rate to those who assist us in tracking down the spoofers who spoof several of our domains every day.

We always used a valid and properly registered unsubscribe link that was honored in real-time.

And we did not rat on our affiliates. Thanks howard!

That is your opinion but XPays always has been an easy domestic target because we do not hide from anyone. Has spam gone down in the 16 or so months since you said this?

false

make sure you are a valid double-opt and do everything by the book or do not bother- you are right-ish

lawsuits are very expensive

False!

XPays are you fucking crazy? look at the date of this thread

We won't hold any grudges.

yeah this sucker is ancient...i have seen alot of old threads pop up

The case never made it to a jury.

I'm glad.

Cambria and firm had me stay silent back then- people published some opinions and some people published false accusations. Now we can publish our responses. 16 months in internet time, is like a decade- I hear you.

And last I heard insiteadult fucked everyone. Karma...

When the shock of the suit hit me, a post like this was very refreshing and thanks as always Joe.

btw..never met Evan as of yet...but Michael is top notch..one of the nicer guys you will meet

not even close totally separate

The benefit of the doubt :thumbsup

... don't hold back.

he's the smart one :winkwink:

Glad to see you made it out the other side in one piece. Restores just a little bit of faith in the system. :thumbsup

i have simmered down plenty and i want to be nice to everyone if possible

any luck with shimmer finding the spoofers?:helpme

thank you!

... no man, she has given up, but told me she thinks your spoofer problem is more "inhouse".

Peaches says if you were his friend you got paid....