Republicans buying Cali Governor's Office

[MrPopup]

How to get elected in California.....

Heres a quote from a different source...

"The campaign to remove Governor Davis is backed by at least $600,000 from Republican Congressman Darrel Issa, who aspires to be the next California governor."

Is this the outright BUYING a political office? Is this the future of politics? Is this a exploitation of electoral rules for political gain?

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?o...27CAD96FAB296A


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GOP seeks candidate in Davis recall drive
PARTY INFIGHTING MAY HURT EFFORTS
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News

SOLVANG - As Republicans wake up to the very real possibility that they could oust Gov. Gray Davis a year after he won re-election, they are beginning to worry that their own infighting could undermine their chance to make history by recalling the unpopular Democrat.

If they have any hope of toppling Davis, key figures in the recall drive told a gathering of moderate Republicans on Saturday, they need to rally behind a single politician so they don't dilute their power.

``We need to have, if we can, one candidate,'' said Rep. Darrell Issa, the Vista Republican who has spent more than $645,000 to finance the recall campaign.

Issa is among at least a half dozen Republican candidates testing the waters for a potential run against Davis if the recall becomes the first in California to qualify for the ballot.

While the campaign has until Sept. 2 to turn in nearly 900,000 valid signatures to elections officials, Issa and his allies are rushing to turn in enough petitions by mid-July to force a special recall vote this November.

Issa told the group that the campaign has gathered nearly 700,000 signatures and is well on its way to meeting its goal.

Now that Issa's money has brought the once-moribund recall to life, Republicans are trying to make sure they don't squander their surprising second chance to topple Davis, who has seen his popularity sink to historic lows as he struggles with California's worst-ever budget crisis. Davis narrowly won re-election in November over Republican businessman Bill Simon, a political novice who ran a lackluster campaign.

Should the initiative qualify for the ballot, it would ask voters if they want to recall Davis and would offer a slate of alternative candidates to consider. Because anyone who can raise $3,500 and collect 65 signatures can put his or her name on the ballot, it could be a crowded field.

``We do have an inherent problem of narrowing the field or if the other side narrows the field more they will win,'' Issa told more than 300 Republicans gathered for the one-day convention, which was hosted by former Assemblyman Brooks Firestone.

To winnow the list, Issa suggested that the Republican Party hold a nominating convention to choose one candidate -- but conceded that getting everyone to take part and agree to the rules would be difficult. That concern was echoed by Simon, another potential candidate weighing his chances.

``I don't know if it's realistic to have a single candidate,'' Simon said to reporters after speaking to the gathering.

The biggest wild card for Republicans is Arnold Schwarzenegger, the popular and wealthy action movie star who has been carefully groomed to jump into politics. While Schwarzenegger is putting off questions about a run for governor until the release of the new ``Terminator'' movie in July, he has sent strong signals that he wants to jump into the race.

Republicans at the gathering pressed both Issa and Simon for a commitment to step aside if polls show Schwarzenegger can win the recall election. Simon said he would ``probably'' do so, while Issa would only say: ``If I saw evidence that I could not win and another candidate could win, I will do what's best for our state and best for our party.''

Because not everyone will agree to support one GOP candidate, some Republicans expressed fears Saturday that the recall could backfire if Democrats manage to overcome their own divisions and rally around a popular candidate like U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, should she decide to run.

``What our party has to realize is that just because everyone is mad at Gray Davis, that doesn't mean they will elect someone from another party,'' said Beth Rogers, a former Republican congressional candidate and head of a fundraising group for GOP women.

That fear was also raised by Gerry Parsky, the influential Republican with close ties to the White House. As the recall got under way, Parsky and the White House kept their distance while many leading California Republicans dismissed the idea as a misguided distraction from the bigger issues facing the state.

On Saturday, Parsky urged Republicans to rally behind a candidate in the mold of President Bush.

``We as a party must be very thoughtful and disciplined if we want to find ourselves in a better place after this is all over,'' Parsky told the group. ``We should once again look to the president, his vision and message as a guide to those who would seek to run in a recall election.''

Both Issa and Simon sought to stake out that turf at the gathering, with both men delivering pointed critiques of Davis and laying the groundwork for their expected campaigns.

``Getting rid of a thoroughly dangerous man who is destroying our state is what the recall is all about,'' said Issa, who compared himself to the idealistic teenager he was when he joined the military.

``In many ways I'm like that 17-year-old who wanted to go to the Army to save the world,'' he said. ``I may not be the most equipped, but I'm the most motivated.''

[Wizzo]

For $3800 and 65 sigs. you can be on the recall ballot....

So I say Lensman for Gov., He wouldn't even have to move...

[foe]

Thats not tham much for a campaign

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by foe
Thats not tham much for a campaign

the point is its reallynot a campaign...but Issa is actually buying a cheaper second electorate poll.

[The Alibi]

Good! All I can say is it's ABOUT TIME.

[sltr]

[Honeyslut]

Unless you live in California and know the damage that Gray Davis has done to this state, do not be whining about Republicans.

Our kids are suffering in school because of Davis.

[Honeyslut]

I rather see the Terminator running this state than Davis..

LOL

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by Honeyslut
I rather see the Terminator running this state than Davis..

LOL

Who is kidding who....

Arnold would make the best politician ever. I hope T3 has some subtle hints that he'll run one day.

[The Alibi]

Originally posted by MrPopup


Who is kidding who....

Arnold would make the best politician ever. I hope T3 has some subtle hints that he'll run one day.

He has been dropping subtle hints...

[Xplicit]

I want Arnie!!

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Honeyslut
Unless you live in California and know the damage that Gray Davis has done to this state, do not be whining about Republicans.

Our kids are suffering in school because of Davis.

Your kids are suffering because of what Bush is doing to the economy, do you care about that? Why isn't there an "impeach Bush" campaign being run by the Republicans if this is really the problem?

Davis won an election a few months ago and the Republicans are abusing the system by using huge amounts of money to try to overturn a legal election. Remember when they used a court to try to decide an election a few years ago? Do you see a pattern here?

By the way, Davis hasn't done anything wrong that Bush hasn't done ten times as wrong, and I don't hear Republicans complaining about Bush.

Davis is a saint compared to Bush, and at least he got the most votes in the election.

[Raider Mort]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Your kids are suffering because of what Bush is doing to the economy, do you care about that? Why isn't there an "impeach Bush" campaign being run by the Republicans if this is really the problem?

Davis won an election a few months ago and the Republicans are abusing the system by using huge amounts of money to try to overturn a legal election. Remember when they used a court to try to decide an election a few years ago? Do you see a pattern here?

By the way, Davis hasn't done anything wrong that Bush hasn't done ten times as wrong, and I don't hear Republicans complaining about Bush.

Davis is a saint compared to Bush, and at least he got the most votes in the election.

What is Bush doing to the economy??

Creating favorable conditions to increase output.

I think it is hilarious that you always get so worked up over these issues. Maybe it washes in your little political science class at your little community college, but thank god your views are in the minority.

Eh, you're from Canada, eh?? So why get all bent out of shape over politics of another country. If you are not a citizen, it is none of your business and your opinions are worthless.

Go figue out why you guys can't support hockey teams or smething, geesh !!!

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Raider Mort


What is Bush doing to the economy??

Creating favorable conditions to increase output.

I think it is hilarious that you always get so worked up over these issues. Maybe it washes in your little political science class at your little community college, but thank god your views are in the minority.

Eh, you're from Canada, eh?? So why get all bent out of shape over politics of another country. If you are not a citizen, it is none of your business and your opinions are worthless.

Go figue out why you guys can't support hockey teams or smething, geesh !!!

"Creating favorable conditions?" Too much Rush Limbaugh!

What is Bush doing to the economy? Let's start with tax cuts and pushing the U.S. into huge deficits that will, without any doubt, lead to massive cuts in education spending.

That's directly fucking the kids who use public education in the United States. If Bush fucking over kids, and draining the education budget, doesn't both you, then more power to you.

As far as the comments on Canada.

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Your kids are suffering because of what Bush is doing to the economy, do you care about that? Why isn't there an "impeach Bush" campaign being run by the Republicans if this is really the problem?

Davis won an election a few months ago and the Republicans are abusing the system by using huge amounts of money to try to overturn a legal election. Remember when they used a court to try to decide an election a few years ago? Do you see a pattern here?

By the way, Davis hasn't done anything wrong that Bush hasn't done ten times as wrong, and I don't hear Republicans complaining about Bush.

Davis is a saint compared to Bush, and at least he got the most votes in the election.

Bush has nothing to do with what Davis has done to California and it is not about the parties. Davis put us in the black in the last 4 years.

I can't stand Bush and I hope he does not make it again.

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by MrPopup


Who is kidding who....

Arnold would make the best politician ever. I hope T3 has some subtle hints that he'll run one day.

I was serious and I voted for Arnold's bill

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by Raider Mort


Eh, you're from Canada, eh?? So why get all bent out of shape over politics of another country. If you are not a citizen, it is none of your business and your opinions are worthless.

Go figue out why you guys can't support hockey teams or smething, geesh !!!

That line of thinking means non-Californians shouldnt have an opinion about California.

Are you from California?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Honeyslut



Bush has nothing to do with what Davis has done to California and it is not about the parties. Davis put us in the black in the last 4 years.

I can't stand Bush and I hope he does not make it again.

The recall is all about parties. It's Republicans trying to overturn the election.

Any Repulblican who wants to throw Davis out, for doing less damage to education than Bush is doing, who doesn't also want to throw Bush out, is full of shit.

Even the fake electricity "crisis" wasn't Davis, that was Bush's energy company buddies fucking CA and the Federal Government refused to do anything about it, after repeated requests from the state. To this day, Cheney is fighting in the courts to try to prevent his meetings with the energy companies from being released. Why? Because Bush and Cheney were trying to punish Davis and hurt him politically. It worked, at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to the people of California.

[Raider Mort]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


"Creating favorable conditions?" Too much Rush Limbaugh!

What is Bush doing to the economy? Let's start with tax cuts and pushing the U.S. into huge deficits that will, without any doubt, lead to massive cuts in education spending.

That's directly fucking the kids who use public education in the United States. If Bush fucking over kids, and draining the education budget, doesn't both you, then more power to you.

As far as the comments on Canada.

Sorry there chief, but it sounds like you listen to alot more Limbaugh than I do. lol

You keep talking about about massive cuts in spending, but what about the massive cuts in the wallets of taxpayers?

You make it sound as if Bush is going to war on kids.

Go do a little research, the government has run a deficit for years and years. It is nothing new. Most of the EU is running a deficit. lol

The deficit is nothing more than a convienient way to bitch and complain because you are so disturbed at Bush's popularity.

But all of this has nothing to do with the fact that Gray Davis of California is a horrible governor that has ruined a once thriving state.

[jas1552]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


The recall is all about parties. It's Republicans trying to overturn the election.

Any Repulblican who wants to throw Davis out, for doing less damage to education than Bush is doing, who doesn't also want to throw Bush out, is full of shit.

Even the fake electricity "crisis" wasn't Davis, that was Bush's energy company buddies fucking CA and the Federal Government refused to do anything about it, after repeated requests from the state. To this day, Cheney is fighting in the courts to try to prevent his meetings with the energy companies from being released. Why? Because Bush and Cheney were trying to punish Davis and hurt him politically. It worked, at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to the people of California.

Hate has blinded you to reality.

[jas1552]

Originally posted by Raider Mort


Sorry there chief, but it sounds like you listen to alot more Limbaugh than I do. lol

You keep talking about about massive cuts in spending, but what about the massive cuts in the wallets of taxpayers?

You make it sound as if Bush is going to war on kids.

Go do a little research, the government has run a deficit for years and years. It is nothing new. Most of the EU is running a deficit. lol

The deficit is nothing more than a convienient way to bitch and complain because you are so disturbed at Bush's popularity.

But all of this has nothing to do with the fact that Gray Davis of California is a horrible governor that has ruined a once thriving state.

He can't stand and will never admit to himself the fact that the most liberal state in the union is totally fucked because of their ultra leftist policies. Blaming republicans for the problems of an entirely democrat controlled state somehow makes sense to him.

[jas1552]

What the hell politician doesn't "exploit the rules"? Would you rather them break the rules?

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Even the fake electricity "crisis" wasn't Davis, that was Bush's energy company buddies fucking CA and the Federal Government refused to do anything about it, after repeated requests from the state. To this day, Cheney is fighting in the courts to try to prevent his meetings with the energy companies from being released. Why? Because Bush and Cheney were trying to punish Davis and hurt him politically. It worked, at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to the people of California.

I concur, the energy crisis that was brought on to Califonia by the (out of state) power companies was nothing more than price gouging at its worst.

[KRL]

I met Gray Davis years ago at a party in LA. He seemed aloof and a know it all type and I wasn't impressed by his not one hair out place stiffness. Doesn't matter whether he's a good gov or a bad gov, cause the bottom line is California's checkbook is $40Bil in the red and the buck stops on his desk. Adios dude.

[Snapper]

Honestly, who gives a shit if he buys a special election or not? If the people want Davis in that much, he'll win that election too. From what I hear, they don't have the total amount of sigs they need to recall yet anyway.

Besides, EVERY election is for sale. The top spender of moeny on advertising has won the previous 11 presidential elections. Money talks and political BS means very little. Water is wet, women have secrets and money wins elections.

[rooster]

"Davis won an election a few months ago and the Republicans are abusing the system by using huge amounts of money to try to overturn a legal election. Remember when they used a court to try to decide an election a few years ago? Do you see a pattern here?"


It was the democrats that used the court to try to overturn an election. Interesting interpretation of history.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by rooster


It was the democrats that used the court to try to overturn an election. Interesting interpretation of history.

Revisionist history on your part.

Who tried to stop votes from being counted?

Not Democrats.

Turn off the radio and face reality.

[rooster]

bush won on election night, get over it one of these years.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by rooster
"Davis won an election a few months ago and the Republicans are abusing the system by using huge amounts of money to try to overturn a legal election. Remember when they used a court to try to decide an election a few years ago? Do you see a pattern here?"


It was the democrats that used the court to try to overturn an election. Interesting interpretation of history.

Stop pestering the liberals with facts. The fact that an independent audit done by newspapers later proved that if all the thrown out votes had been counted, Bush's margin would have been even greater is irrelevant to their emotional, heartfelt sense that its not fair that they lost.

Leave logic out of this dammit!

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by KRL
Doesn't matter whether he's a good gov or a bad gov, cause the bottom line is California's checkbook is $40Bil in the red and the buck stops on his desk. Adios dude.

Does the buck stop on Bush's desk for the record debt that he's plunging America into?

Do Repulbicans have a problem with Bush's fiscally irresponsibility?

Or didn't Rush tell them about that?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by rooster
bush won on election night, get over it one of these years.

Bush was appointed by conservative members of the Supreme Court.

Gore got 1/2 million more votes than Bush.

Like it or not, that's what history has to say about it.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Does the buck stop on Bush's desk for the record debt that he's plunging America into?

Do Repulbicans have a problem with Bush's fiscally irresponsibility?

Or didn't Rush tell them about that?

Hard to take you seriously when your name is Mr. Fiction dude.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Bush was appointed by conservative members of the Supreme Court.

Gore got 1/2 million more votes than Bush.

Like it or not, that's what history has to say about it.

Source?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Snapper


Hard to take you seriously when your name is Mr. Fiction dude.

Coming from someone named Snapper?

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by Snapper


Stop pestering the liberals with facts. The fact that an independent audit done by newspapers later proved that if all the thrown out votes had been counted, Bush's margin would have been even greater is irrelevant to their emotional, heartfelt sense that its not fair that they lost.

Leave logic out of this dammit!

"independent audit"

[Snapper]

Originally posted by MrPopup


"independent audit"

done by mostly liberal newspapers, FYI. Like the NY times....oops, maybe I need a better example.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Coming from someone named Snapper?

good point.

[rooster]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Bush was appointed by conservative members of the Supreme Court.

Gore got 1/2 million more votes than Bush.

Like it or not, that's what history has to say about it.

You should be a comedian. We have this thing called the electoral college. Its in place so one state like New York or California dont decide on their own who is the president.

If Gore had been any half way decent candidate he would have had 10 million more votes and would have won his home state.

The supreme court was put in a position it should have never been in. The florida supreme court made up completely of 7 democrat justices overstepped their powers.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by rooster



You should be a comedian. We have this thing called the electoral college. Its in place so one state like New York or California dont decide on their own who is the president.

If Gore had been any half way decent candidate he would have had 10 million more votes and would have won his home state.

The supreme court was put in a position it should have never been in. The florida supreme court made up completely of 7 democrat justices overstepped their powers.

again, stop pestering the liberals with facts. It just isn't the language they speak.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by rooster

If Gore had been any half way decent candidate he would have had 10 million more votes and would have won his home state.

He didn't get 10,000,000 more (only 500,000 more), so that proves he sucks?

Bush got less votes than Gore, what does that say about him using your brilliant logic?

Maybe there should be a rule that to win an election, you have to get 10,000,000 more votes than the other guy, or the loser wins.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


He didn't get 10,000,000 more (only 500,000 more), so that proves he sucks?

Bush got less votes than Gore, what does that say about him using your brilliant logic?

Maybe there should be a rule that to win an election, you have to get 10,000,000 more votes than the other guy, or the loser wins.

there is. the rule is called the electoral college.

Again, what is the source that still claims that Gore had more votes?

[madps]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Revisionist history on your part.

Who tried to stop votes from being counted?

Not Democrats.

Turn off the radio and face reality.

I don't give a fuck who is in office, but that vote recounting was bullshit. People trying to guess what other people intended to vote. C'mon! Gore won the popular vote, but the electoral vote went to Bush.
The electoral vote decides the election. The rules have always been that way. It was close race, but everyone knew before the voting started that the popular vote would not decide the election. This became such a circus for both parties, the only way it could be decided was in the courts.

[Snapper]

Originally posted by madps


I don't give a fuck who is in office, but that vote recounting was bullshit. People trying to guess what other people intended to vote. C'mon! Gore won the popular vote, but the electoral vote went to Bush.
The electoral vote decides the election. The rules have always been that way. It was close race, but everyone knew before the voting started that the popular vote would not decide the election. This became such a circus for both parties, the only way it could be decided was in the courts.

great post

[madps]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Does the buck stop on Bush's desk for the record debt that he's plunging America into?

Do Repulbicans have a problem with Bush's fiscally irresponsibility?

Or didn't Rush tell them about that?

Really... I'm not defending GW..but ... who's gonna MAKE the US pay it's deficit? It's nothing more than an arbitrary number!

[Snapper]

Originally posted by madps


Really... I'm not defending GW..but ... who's gonna MAKE the US pay it's deficit? It's nothing more than an arbitrary number!

Yeah, can you see it, someone denying the US a loan because our debt ratio is too big.

[genomega]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Revisionist history on your part.

Who tried to stop votes from being counted?

Not Democrats.

Turn off the radio and face reality.

They were counted, about 5 times to date.

The courts gagged when the Demos wanted to hold the
cards and determine what the voter really ment.

The left wingers abused the court system big time.