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Note: In EVERY thread when King starts losing the argument, he always tries to nail you to the wall with his vicious retorts!:1orglaugh |
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He is lying I do not know anyone here other than him who knew PF, when asked a direct question he gives an indirect answer. No you did not answer the question. Two reasons; (1) You are lying. (2) You are lying. When you say they knew him, they met him or swapped emails? Or maybe bodily fluids. I got it theking and PF were lovers in the army together. :1orglaugh |
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funkmaster unlike your friend Donald i've said it many times before the war started that we wont find any real WMD weapons in Iraq. And i have supported the war and still do. the fall of Iraq was to bring major changes to the middle east and we're seeing them right now. Assad is running scared. Iran is in trouble http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_9.html Saudies are fighting terrorists inside their own country finally and we're seeing some progress in Israel if you cant see the bigger picture i can let you barrow my glasses :) |
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theking if you can't see how desperate Rummsfeld, Bush etc were to promote Hussein as a clear and present danger then you just can't read spin at all. You lapped it up, why don't you just admit it? In some ways it'd be nice to live in your innocent world where you can believe what you're told by the Whitehouse (oh no wait they're trying to scare you into following). I'd have thought by your age you'd be a bit more cynical. |
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We do not hate America, Americans or even Bush. We hate the fact that he lied to us and continues to do so. slavdogg Then why did they not tell us this in the first place or were the French and the Russians the truthful ones? Plus what right does a US President have to make major changes in a country 10,000 miles away? |
Those were some interesting "conclusions" ya posted.
"the fall of Iraq was to bring major changes to the middle east and we're seeing them right now. Assad is running scared." Running where? Last time I looked he was still firmly in control of Syria and still ruthlessly running the country. That's "running"? ---------- "Iran is in trouble" The students & intellectuals have been protesting for years in Iran..yet the clerics remain firmly in control. ------------ "Saudies are fighting terrorists inside their own country finally" Royal family doesn't like being made a fool. Arresting a few people is not exactly a large scale crackdown in terrorism. ----------------------------- "and we're seeing some progress in Israel" Huh..was it just my imagination that buses are being blown up left & right still and the Israelis are still lobbing missles into the midst of the Palestinians. THAT'S progress?? "if you cant see the bigger picture i can let you barrow my glasses :)" No offense meant..but I think YOU need a new prescription for your eyes so YOU can see the big picture better. |
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This does not matter to the "uptight right". If you DISAGREE with THEIR policies, you are a "hater". A hater of what though..LIES?? |
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----------------- The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. ------------------ From everything that I've read, that information was completely know by everyone in the administration to be bogus, yet still he spoke it in the State of the Union. |
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That fucking pervasive liberal hegemony at work! |
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they did, you just didnt listen well enough The russians and French were after their own self interests >> Plus what right does a US President have to make major changes in a country 10,000 miles away? Congress gave him the right, twice ! We were enforcing 18 UN resolutions that Saddam failed to comply with. |
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Krugman is right to suggest a possible comparison to Watergate. In the three decades since Watergate, this is the first potential scandal I have seen that could make Watergate pale by comparison. If the Bush Administration intentionally manipulated or misrepresented intelligence to get Congress to authorize, and the public to support, military action to take control of Iraq, then that would be a monstrous misdeed. - John Dean, former Counsel to President Nixon http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030606.html |
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I pasted a Rumsfeld quote earlier in this thread where he stated on March 30th, 2003 that they knew where the weapons were hidden. Obviously that makes what you said above false. What I'm curious about is.. what happened when you saw the quote which allowed you to believe that something completely contradictory is true? Are you a selective amnesiac? Do you not even remember seeing it? Does your brain automatically filter out things you don't want to be true? |
Is it at all possible that he could of been bluffing about them. He was definitely bluffing about the size and effectiveness of his army.
My cousin has just returned and said the army he saw was a joke, no working artillery, tanks and most of the solidiers demoralised and ready to run. Given that situation and with Iran on the border was Saddam bluffing his mighty army and resources? With a sworn enemy on his doorstep it's possible. |
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Then the UN should have given the go, not Bush. The UN actually said no. Simple isn't it. |
And we've set an example for the world now. As many said about the pre-emptive war idea, it would lead to others adopting the same stance:
EU Backs Possible Use of Force Against WMD Threats By REUTERS Filed at 7:23 a.m. ET LUXEMBOURG (Reuters) - The European Union, in a significant shift toward U.S. thinking, said Monday the use of force might be necessary where diplomacy failed to address threats from weapons of mass destruction. EU foreign ministers endorsed a strategy to combat the spread of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons that for the first time included a reference to possible military action against states or terrorist groups that acquired such arms. ``When these measures (including political dialogue and diplomatic pressure) have failed, coercive measures under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter and international law (sanctions, selective or global, interceptions of shipments and, as appropriate, the use of force) could be envisioned,'' it said. |
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Now, If you WANT to be conviced or WANT to convice somebody otherwise, then you can make beleive it is GOLD mainly if you do not show or doctor the evidence,,, TheKing, as days goes by, not only the US ( who refused the help of UN specialist ...) don't find even traces of WMD but the world community finds evidence of lies and deceipt. Obviously, all means were good to this hawk administration to PREVAIL... |
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I'm puzzled.
Who actually reads theking's posts? |
did you know the only two millitary actions the un ever supported in its history were korea and gulf war 1. And korea only passed because the Russians didnt show up to vote that day.
But im sure the 800,000 rhwandans that got killed think the un is neato. |
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