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Old 06-15-2003, 07:55 PM   #1
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4 in 10 americans believe WMD found in Iraq

No wonder Bushes popularity is high, people are basically fucking stupid.

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Many Americans Unaware WMD Have Not Been Found

Four in Ten Overall

A striking finding in the new PIPA/Knowledge Networks poll is that many Americans are unaware that weapons of mass destruction have not been found in Iraq. While 59% of those polled correctly said the US has not found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, 41% said they believed that the US has found such weapons (34%) or were unsure (7%).

Steven Kull, director of PIPA, comments: "For some Americans, their desire to support the war may be leading them to screen out information that weapons of mass destruction have not been found. Given the intensive news coverage and high levels of public attention to the topic, this level of misinformation suggests that some Americans may be avoiding having an experience of cognitive dissonance."

"To some extent this misperception can be attributed to repeated headlines that there has been a promising lead in the effort to find evidence of such weapons' headlines that are not counterbalanced by prominent reporting that these leads have not been fruitful. But there is also reason to believe that this misperception may be unconsciously motivated, as the mistaken belief is substantially greater among those who favored the war."

Among those who approved of the decision to go to war and were not just supporting the president (53% of the sample), a majority of 52% said the US has found weapons of mass destruction (48%) or did not know (4%).

Among Republicans who said they follow international affairs very closely -- and thus may also be more exposed to headlines reporting promising leads -- an even larger percentage -- 55% --said weapons have been found, with just 45% saying they have not.

Another widespread misperception is that Iraq actually used chemical or biological weapons in the war. Twenty-two percent held this misperception, with 9% being unsure, while 69% correctly said that Iraq had not used such weapons. However, unlike the question of whether weapons have been found, there is no greater tendency to hold this belief among those who support the war, or are Republicans who follow international affairs closely, than there is in the general population.

The desire to reduce cognitive dissonance may also be skewing some Americans' memory of the government's rationale for going to war. Asked, "Thinking back to when the US government was making the case for going to war with Iraq, according to the government, what was the most important reason for going to war with Iraq?" 60% said "the evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction," and 19% said "the evidence that Iraq was working with the terrorist group al'Qaeda." But 20% said the most important reason was "the fact that Saddam Hussein was an oppressive dictator." Asked for the second most important reason, another 32% chose "the fact that Saddam Hussein was an oppressive dictator," while weapons of mass destruction were chosen by 24% and links to al'Qaeda by 42%.
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Old 06-15-2003, 07:57 PM   #2
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well they found a ton of chemical suits and antedotes to gasses, but I guess those were just to protect themself from saddams farts.
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Imagine that.

9 out of 10 Americans will tell you that Iraq had something to do with 9-11.

Please Yahweh, bring the cleansing.
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Old 06-15-2003, 07:58 PM   #4
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well they found a ton of chemical suits and antedotes to gasses, but I guess those were just to protect themself from saddams farts.

So obviously you are one of the 4 in 10. Your new name is now 'IQ of a rooster'
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The more people bitch about it and throw in conspiracies, the less we care whether they find anything or not.

Just get it over with, so people will shut up about it.
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:03 PM   #6
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It's not like you can blame the media for this, either. I'd have expected a few, but 40 percent? Damn.
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:04 PM   #7
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"Among Republicans who said they follow international affairs very closely -- and thus may also be more exposed to headlines reporting promising leads -- an even larger percentage -- 55% --said weapons have been found, with just 45% saying they have not. "

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At least 8 out of every 10 people in the world are dumb as fuck, not just americans.
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which 10 americans?
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:10 PM   #10
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well they found a ton of chemical suits and antedotes to gasses, but I guess those were just to protect themself from saddams farts.
I was in the US army and every single soilder was issued that exact gear. And the suits the US found in Iraqu were made in the US and sold to Sadam by the US when we were busy kissing his ass for killing Iranians for us.

Americans are fucking stupid to believe this total bullshit.

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Old 06-15-2003, 08:30 PM   #11
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Americans are fucking stupid to believe this total bullshit.
Glad to spend my thousandth post agreeing with this statement. Twas a war of conquest, pure and simple.
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blah blah blah.... who fucking cares.
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More than 50% of Americans beleived that Iraq was responsible for 9-11.

About the same number of people think that tax cuts for the wealthy will help the economy.

This statistic doesn't surprise me.
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:42 PM   #14
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"Among Republicans who said they follow international affairs very closely -- and thus may also be more exposed to headlines reporting promising leads -- an even larger percentage -- 55% --said weapons have been found, with just 45% saying they have not. "

This is no surprise reading some of the right winger posts on GFY.

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Old 06-15-2003, 08:45 PM   #15
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I belive it but I would say 9 out of 10 are morons aswell..

... I made a post on another forum ( unrelated to websites) and made a simple poll.. asking if Bush should be impeached if it's found out he used misleading info or lied to the american people and the world to sell this war.. I have only had one person out of about 15 agree he should be... most just don't seem to care.. they think it's ok if he lied because sadam needed to taken out... people really need to get a clue.
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Idiots dont like to be shown they are idiots.

If they are never found the flag wavers will simply say it didnt matter or that liberation of the Iraqi people was the priority.

As if during the middle of an economic crisis our main priorities are humanitarian goals in countries we dont give two shits about.

Americans are idiots and will believe whatever comes out of the magic idiot box that sits in front of them.
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:49 PM   #17
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you can prove anything with statistics


















68% of people know that





btw, stfu everyone knows all about the shit that saddamm does/has done and you post gay shit like this. can you say youd rather not see him dead/exiled? of course you would want him to be, anyone who cares about humans would....


we got our reasons, and iran and n. korea should and most likely will be next. get with a winning team....or you'll be on the losing team
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Old 06-15-2003, 08:51 PM   #18
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Idiots dont like to be shown they are idiots.

If they are never found the flag wavers will simply say it didnt matter or that liberation of the Iraqi people was the priority.
Read the post right after yours.
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Read the post right after yours.
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blah blah blah.... who fucking cares.
The dead US and UK soldiers.

The Dead Iraqi's

The US and UK tax payers who will have to pay for this war.

The Pensioners and patients who will suffer from the lack of funds.

Sure there are more.
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i dont think the towelheads are as stupid as we think they are

1) if wmd will be found in iraq it will be planted by allied forces..
2) all the WMD which we all know has been developed IS not in Iran....

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both you are fucking losers, al quada HAS been found in iraq...and that was part of it. either way, 5,000 missing barrels of nerve agents etc and defectors giving information....we know what he's up to. nuclear, perhaps not yet/soon (although he does have billions, and hes crazy, so you know hes gotta be trying) but the other shit he does like harboring our enemeies or paying off palestinians familys if they suicide bomb israel, i mean they promote terrorism. we had good cause to do whatever needed to get this thing done, everyone agreed like 10 years ago we had to anyway. so just shutup, you know your just a fucking "oppositionist". its not like YOUR right about anything, but the us government is, we handle problems that are global because we are the global power. thats how it is, and always will be.
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Idiots dont like to be shown they are idiots.

If they are never found the flag wavers will simply say it didnt matter or that liberation of the Iraqi people was the priority.

As if during the middle of an economic crisis our main priorities are humanitarian goals in countries we dont give two shits about.

Americans are idiots and will believe whatever comes out of the magic idiot box that sits in front of them.
Sad but true.

And if the guy at the top controls what comes out of that box.

Welcome to 1984.
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Read the post right after yours.
Ahahaaa fucking perfect.
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Ahahaaa fucking perfect.

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both you are fucking losers, al quada HAS been found in iraq...and that was part of it. either way, 5,000 missing barrels of nerve agents etc and defectors giving information....we know what he's up to. nuclear, perhaps not yet/soon (although he does have billions, and hes crazy, so you know hes gotta be trying) but the other shit he does like harboring our enemeies or paying off palestinians familys if they suicide bomb israel, i mean they promote terrorism. we had good cause to do whatever needed to get this thing done, everyone agreed like 10 years ago we had to anyway. so just shutup, you know your just a fucking "oppositionist". its not like YOUR right about anything, but the us government is, we handle problems that are global because we are the global power. thats how it is, and always will be.
Unfortunately there is a Muslim idiot on the other side with the same mentality. He believes that Israel is a terrorist Stater and the US supports it. He will be recruited by terrorist to "Strike a blow for Islam"

The truth is not important it's what you can make them think that is.
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gay, gay
Where I grew up, "grogan" meant "shit".

As a matter of fact, I checked out the scat pages just to make sure it wasnt just some local white trash phrase my friends made up.

Sure enough, grogan means poop.

http://www.manscat.com/winter.php?page=grogan
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"Among Republicans who said they follow international affairs very closely -- and thus may also be more exposed to headlines reporting promising leads -- an even larger percentage -- 55% --said weapons have been found, with just 45% saying they have not. "

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Where I grew up, "grogan" meant "shit".

As a matter of fact, I checked out the scat pages just to make sure it wasnt just some local white trash phrase my friends made up.

Sure enough, grogan means poop.

http://www.manscat.com/winter.php?page=grogan
From the page he linked to:

Let's make the most
of my beautiful waste!

Since we're together,
we might as well taste!

Would you eat mine?
Could you eat mine?
Won't you eat... my GROGAN!


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these types of threads used to be covered by the Bush throng and their justifications.. now they're down to

"we don't care"

seemed to care a lot before the war, running out of ammo?
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Yet another proof that Democracy can only work in an elitist Athenian society. In a country populated by cretinous Average Joes and Sally Soccer-moms, it's a recipe for disaster.
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the extreme left likes going thru life with blinders on. 8 years under Clinton of fake economy, zero involvement in world affairs, zero retaliation for several terroist attacks. You want to live in a magic fantasy land where sociallism rules the day and out of sight out of mind is the motto.

Ignoring radical arabs dosent mean they will want to slit ur throat any less.

The right is avoiding these threads because this is about the 50th thread on the same spin. All just mindless bs and baiting.
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both you are fucking losers, al quada HAS been found in iraq...and that was part of it. either way, 5,000 missing barrels of nerve agents etc and defectors giving information....we know what he's up to. nuclear, perhaps not yet/soon (although he does have billions, and hes crazy, so you know hes gotta be trying) but the other shit he does like harboring our enemeies or paying off palestinians familys if they suicide bomb israel, i mean they promote terrorism. we had good cause to do whatever needed to get this thing done, everyone agreed like 10 years ago we had to anyway. so just shutup, you know your just a fucking "oppositionist". its not like YOUR right about anything, but the us government is, we handle problems that are global because we are the global power. thats how it is, and always will be.
Al Qeada has been found in the US as well, maybe the States needs some liberating as well then
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the extreme left likes going thru life with blinders on. 8 years under Clinton of fake economy, zero involvement in world affairs, zero retaliation for several terroist attacks. You want to live in a magic fantasy land where sociallism rules the day and out of sight out of mind is the motto.

Ignoring radical arabs dosent mean they will want to slit ur throat any less.

The right is avoiding these threads because this is about the 50th thread on the same spin. All just mindless bs and baiting.
No-one posting in this thread is extreme left. You're just sp damned extreme right that you're attacking moderates from the left-hand side
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both you are fucking losers, al quada HAS been found in iraq...and that was part of it. either way, 5,000 missing barrels of nerve agents etc and defectors giving information....we know what he's up to. nuclear, perhaps not yet/soon (although he does have billions, and hes crazy, so you know hes gotta be trying) but the other shit he does like harboring our enemeies or paying off palestinians familys if they suicide bomb israel, i mean they promote terrorism. we had good cause to do whatever needed to get this thing done, everyone agreed like 10 years ago we had to anyway. so just shutup, you know your just a fucking "oppositionist". its not like YOUR right about anything, but the us government is, we handle problems that are global because we are the global power. thats how it is, and always will be.
definitely a 4 smiley post.

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Ignoring radical arabs dosent mean they will want to slit ur throat any less.
When is the last time radical Arabs bombed China or Japan (two countries on-par with the US economically) who are isolationist when it comes to foreign policy?
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i wish we were isolationists, all you europe pukes would be speaking german or russian.
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I bet you'll find alot more chemical weapons in the US than in Iraq, Iran, Israel together
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Let's face it, more like 99.99% people really don't have a clue, and everyone chimes in like they know what the fuck happens around the world at the inner circle level, WMDs and geo-political dynamics included.

This is like ants on a hill talking about life on Mars. Let's not kid ourselves.
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both you are fucking losers, al quada HAS been found in iraq...and that was part of it. either way, 5,000 missing barrels of nerve agents etc and defectors giving information....we know what he's up to. nuclear, perhaps not yet/soon (although he does have billions, and hes crazy, so you know hes gotta be trying) but the other shit he does like harboring our enemeies or paying off palestinians familys if they suicide bomb israel, i mean they promote terrorism. we had good cause to do whatever needed to get this thing done, everyone agreed like 10 years ago we had to anyway. so just shutup, you know your just a fucking "oppositionist". its not like YOUR right about anything, but the us government is, we handle problems that are global because we are the global power. thats how it is, and always will be.
we handle global problems because we area a global power? That's horseshit. Think about it for just a second. First they said that there were direct links connecting osama and saddam. But they proved to be false. Then it was all about weapons of mass destruction which they couldn't find ( doesn't mean they won't, but they couldn't before we attacked ) they've even proven that the information that they presented to the UN about saddam buying the stuff to make a nuclear bomb are forgeries. Only after all these avenues failed did it become about "liberating" the Iraqi people. If we are a global power who solves global problems can you tell me when we plan to "liberate" the oppressed people in Congo, Sudan, Samolia, Ethiopia, Columbia, Cuba just to name a few? When are we going to invade them and bring democracy to these people who often are slaughtered just for voting? I can tell you, NEVER. Why? Because none of these countries is run by an arab extremest and none of these countries harbors the second larges oil supply in the world. . . if you think we did this for any other reason, you are fooling yourself.

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Old 06-16-2003, 01:05 AM   #42
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The dead US and UK soldiers.

The Dead Iraqi's

The US and UK tax payers who will have to pay for this war.

The Pensioners and patients who will suffer from the lack of funds.

Sure there are more.
it's always about the poor suffering tax payers isn't it.... I guess that includes me.... but I still don't care. Hussein is out of power and that's good enough for me. I couldn't fucking care less if they don't find so much as a box of firecrackers over there.
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it's always about the poor suffering tax payers isn't it.... I guess that includes me.... but I still don't care. Hussein is out of power and that's good enough for me. I couldn't fucking care less if they don't find so much as a box of firecrackers over there.
Did you care when Clinton lied about a blowjob? I'm guessing you didn't.

People like Rooster cried about Clinton's penis for 8 years.

Now they don't care about lying to start a war.

It's laughable.
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to be honest, i dont even really care that much about the blowjob, its everything else he did.

the only thing annoying about the blowjob is the far left somehow thinks thats the only thing he ever did wrong.
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well they found a ton of chemical suits and antedotes to gasses, but I guess those were just to protect themself from saddams farts.
By the same argument, I guess the US were planning on using chemical weapons as well then...

There are several good reasons for the Iraqis to have chemical protection suits and antidotes to chemical weapons:

- They USED TO have a big checmical weapons program. Nobody disputes that (including the former Iraqi government itself). They've had no requirement to destroy protection gear, and so why should they spend money on having someone destroy them?

- It could have been useful for spreading fear. The presence of the suits would make many Iraqis assume that something like the attack against the Iraqi Kurds could happen again, and reduce the chance of another uprising.

- Chemical protection suits are vital to have access to in areas with an extensive oil industry. Several Western experts pointed out at the time of the finds that similar equipment is present near all major oil fields.

All of these are plausible explanations, and I'm sure there are others. Still having WMDs would also be one. But considering how extensive the search has been with no results, the likelihood of that explanation is dropping day by day.

Jumping to the conclusion that they must have WMDs because they have protective gear is a logical fallacy.
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The dead US and UK soldiers.

The Dead Iraqi's

The US and UK tax payers who will have to pay for this war.

The Pensioners and patients who will suffer from the lack of funds.

Sure there are more.
Yeah, people who don't like having the government of the most powerful country in the world lie and deceive it's own public to get support for overrunning sovereign nations in contravention of international law.
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the extreme left likes going thru life with blinders on. 8 years under Clinton of fake economy, zero involvement in world affairs, zero retaliation for several terroist attacks. You want to live in a magic fantasy land where sociallism rules the day and out of sight out of mind is the motto.
I think its obvious who goes through life with blinders on. And as far as 'Clintons fake economy' that you like to repeat constantly, I'll take it any day over Bushes 'real economy'.

You are a classic example of how misery loves company. I'm willing to bet under Clinton you couldnt stand the fact everyone was doing better than you and now you love the fact that over 2 million people have lost their jobs. Makes ya feel right at home, doesnt it.
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the only thing annoying about the blowjob is the far left somehow thinks thats the only thing he ever did wrong.
Your annoyance is caused by a figment of your imagination. The left didnt think Clintons blowjob was wrong, what was wrong was the fact that Republicans demanded tens of millions of dollars and govt resources focus on a blowjob, meanwhile Bin Laden was making plans to attack the country....you must be very proud of yourself.
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4 in 10 amerikans are fucking stupid
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