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Old 06-14-2003, 09:17 AM   #1
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Need gallery builders

I'm looking for someone to build galleries for me on an ongoing basis. The catch is that I want the person that builds these galleries to submit them as well and guarantee their acceptance to whatever TGPs they are submitting them to. I also need the gallery builder to supply the content and obviously it needs to be fresh content. I don't want content that is provided free as long as I promote their program. I will pick the programs to promote.

I expect to pay a fair price that takes into account the fact that I want galleries, content and submission with guraranteed acceptance all included.

I will be using these galleries for myself and also including them in a promotion package that I am including with the turnkey sites that I sell.

Post example galleries and ICQ or email so I can contact you to discuss cost.
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:19 AM   #2
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Make an offer... do you want a gallery every day? If so, that's a lot of work and should be expensive...
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:58 AM   #4
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Nobody can guarantee acceptance of galleries. Maybe to 1 or 2 but not to a list of top 300 TGPs/MGPs
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Another problem, you want content included. Most licenses only cover the domains of the original buyer but Im sure this can be tweaked with the original seller. Ultimately, this impacts the price upwards.

Based on your requeirements, design/submission/hosting. For 30 days, you're looking at $250

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I'm looking for someone to build galleries for me on an ongoing basis. The catch is that I want the person that builds these galleries to submit them as well and guarantee their acceptance to whatever TGPs they are submitting them to. I also need the gallery builder to supply the content and obviously it needs to be fresh content. I don't want content that is provided free as long as I promote their program. I will pick the programs to promote.

I expect to pay a fair price that takes into account the fact that I want galleries, content and submission with guraranteed acceptance all included.

I will be using these galleries for myself and also including them in a promotion package that I am including with the turnkey sites that I sell.

Post example galleries and ICQ or email so I can contact you to discuss cost.
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:19 AM   #6
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I'm not being sarcastic here...just curoius questions from someone
with not much experience in this area...

Why would someone

Build galleries
supply content
submit galleries

for someone else. This is 99% of the work.

Why not get a few domains, a server, and submit them for
themselves?

Guaranteed income v.s. Insecure income?
More gallery designs and content then they could possibly use
for themselves?

Seriously...
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:26 AM   #7
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Hmmm. Someone has their priorities a little backwards.
Guaranteed listings on TGPs does *not* guarantee sales.

LMAO - the banner at the top of this screen is advertising Maxcash's $50 signup days May 1st-15th.
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:29 AM   #8
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Nobody can guarantee acceptance of galleries. Maybe to 1 or 2 but not to a list of top 300 TGPs/MGPs
I'm not interested in having the gallery submitted to 300 tgps. I'm looking for gallery builders that have a relationship with some tgps that will accept their galleries without having to wait for them to review them and hopefully accept them like thehun does.
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:30 AM   #9
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supply content? that would really cost you. that's alot of work if you ask me.
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Hmmm. Someone has their priorities a little backwards.
Guaranteed listings on TGPs does *not* guarantee sales.

LMAO - the banner at the top of this screen is advertising Maxcash's $50 signup days May 1st-15th.
Obviously I am looking for gallery builders with a proven track record of building quality galleries that convert.

The reason I want to find someone that can submit to tgp's that will accept their galleries is because I am including these galleries with a package that I market. I'm not going into details because it's not really important to know the specifics. I want to be able to tell a client that as part of the package I am including a gallery that will be submitted to X number of tgp's and generate approx. X number of hits. I have no intention of guraranteeing sales though.
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:42 AM   #11
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Another problem, you want content included. Most licenses only cover the domains of the original buyer but Im sure this can be tweaked with the original seller. Ultimately, this impacts the price upwards.

Based on your requeirements, design/submission/hosting. For 30 days, you're looking at $250

I did not say to include hosting.

Here's the deal spelled out for you.

1. Build a few gallery templates that you can use over and over every time I order another gallery.

2. Supply the content. If I have to I'll supply the content. Obviously I can buy enough content to build several galleries for less than $50.

3. Submit the gallery to a few TGPs that will accept your galleries and together provide maybe 50,000 hits to the gallery.

4. Use a free host that will be accepted by the TGPs that you submit to.

That doesn't sound that difficult to me and sure as heck wouldn't warrant $250 per gallery.

I could build the galleries myself but I don't have the time. What I'm hoping to find is a gallery builder that already has relationships with some TGPs that will accept their galleries automatically and is willing to work with me on an ongoing basis. Probably 4 or 5 galleries a week to start but up to 2 or 3 a day eventually.
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Old 06-14-2003, 11:21 AM   #14
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so why wouldn't I just do this for myself....lol.
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Old 06-14-2003, 11:42 AM   #15
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so why wouldn't I just do this for myself....lol.
Why does anyone build galleries for other people? I see people posting on here all the time showing samples of their galleries and claiming that they convert. If so, why aren't they submitting galleries to the TGPs and getting rich themselves? Fuck if I know. I'm not here to question why someone would build galleries for other people, I just know I've seen plenty of guys post that they build galleries and many of them claim they will convet. If what I'm asking isn't possible, fine. Just thought I'd try.
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Old 06-14-2003, 11:56 AM   #16
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Okay. Since it would appear that I can't find one person to work with that can do everything I want I'll try this again in a different way.

Here's what I need.

1. Good gallery designers/builders that can provide content.

2. Gallery submitters that can get the galleries accepted at the TGPs they submit to.
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Old 06-14-2003, 11:58 AM   #17
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Smiple...cause that's where our job end. We design the galleries, the rest is up to you.
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:16 PM   #18
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Based on your requeirements, design/submission/hosting. For 30 days, you're looking at $250
That is insanely low.

How many designs at that price?
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Why Im sure this could be done Im not sure if it would be cost effective maybe Im missing some part here?
I sure wouldent do it for less than 150 a day with all that Included it woudent be that hard to put it together.
If thats in your price bracket hit me on ICQ and Ill put a real quote together. #77762980
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We can do that, but I gotta tell you you have some weak points. First, a gallery being accepted doesn't mean a gallery getting lots of clicks. As maybe you know, most TGP are trying to sell their good spots, and the ones not doing it are those that will sell you 2 hits a day. Thus, you want an approximated guaranteed traffic with a market value of 350 bucks a day, right? (50k at 7 per 1000 visits). Add to that gallery design, content and submitting. That would end in a market value of 400$ a day. Lets' say you get a good deal, but why somebody would sell this for less than 150-200 bucks a day when they could keep it for themselves?
Second, the content thing: content is not for use in any domain, you must register it for use on specified domains. Now, for what I understand, you plan to resell, therefore I assume you don't know which domains will have your eventual clients. Then, how do you expect the designer to do it?

So, if you're interested in gallery building, content (we can make arranges on our own) and submitting with high acceptance ratio (but not traffic guarantee) then we're your choice. But it won't be cheap
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Old 06-15-2003, 01:21 AM   #24
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I'm looking for gallery builders that have a relationship with some tgps that will accept their galleries without having to wait for them to review them and hopefully accept them like thehun does.
If they do have spots they can use why would they use them for your galleries? It's basically revshare.

Most tgps only accept 1 gallery per day and if you know them and the hook you up with an extra spot everyday there is no way they would give a % of that up which is what you are asking.

The only person who would be motivated to do this for you would be a noobie but that wouldn't work out for you.

I suggest you buy your own content and then hire someone to build and submit for you everyday.

Making good consistent money in tgping is hard enough as it is and I don't think anyone who has mastered it and ahs connections with tgps is going to give up any % of that for less than they would make promoting something of their own.
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Why does anyone build galleries for other people? I see people posting on here all the time showing samples of their galleries and claiming that they convert. If so, why aren't they submitting galleries to the TGPs and getting rich themselves? Fuck if I know. I'm not here to question why someone would build galleries for other people, I just know I've seen plenty of guys post that they build galleries and many of them claim they will convet. If what I'm asking isn't possible, fine. Just thought I'd try.




Take a single gallery, may only make a few hundred dollars if listed with the big TGP's, and you have to wait a few weeks.

Or you could make 5-10 galleries a day for people at $25 each. You do the math.

Plus, a lot of people find the task of submitting tedious.
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Actually I dont think this is such an insane proposition but I think Bake has got the right idea with regard to costings, and then that is down to The Hammers budget.

What he is after is someone who has a consistent track record with TGP's, has a lot of good quality partnerships & is prepared to forego their submits for a regular income set per day/week.

The concept is sound but I have seen submitters get burnt with deals like this in the past.
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My gallery designer is available for outside work.

His galleries are at jfpgalleries.com

He charges $25.00 per gallery
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Boy, Hammer, you have balls! You are a moderator on Y-NOT, and you slam GFY every chance you get. Then you come here and beg for help.

P U S S Y !! That's what you are!

If someone from GFY came to Y-NOT and pushed their goods, you would be the first in line to accuse them of spamming.
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Boy, Hammer, you have balls! You are a moderator on Y-NOT, and you slam GFY every chance you get. Then you come here and beg for help.

P U S S Y !! That's what you are!

If someone from GFY came to Y-NOT and pushed their goods, you would be the first in line to accuse them of spamming.
He doesn't have a link to his site in the message..heck he doesn't even have a link in his profile...don't know how this could be considered spamming.

We've worked together for a while...he's a very intelligent and ethical guy with some great ideas.

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The point I was trying to make is that hammer takes shots at GFY on Y-NOT constantly. But when he wants some answers or business, he shows his ugly face here. He is a hypocrite. If I were saying this on Y-NOT, hammer would be threatening to kick me me off the board. Mods, for the most part kiss ass. Have you noticed how AmputateYourHead has toned down his remarks since he became a GFY mod?
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The point I was trying to make is that hammer takes shots at GFY on Y-NOT constantly. But when he wants some answers or business, he shows his ugly face here. He is a hypocrite. If I were saying this on Y-NOT, hammer would be threatening to kick me me off the board. Mods, for the most part kiss ass. Have you noticed how AmputateYourHead has toned down his remarks since he became a GFY mod?

Wrong answer... I've seen him take a couple of shots... that's it... constantly tho? whatever....

And I have yet to see Hammer threaten to kick off anyone from YNOT... he wouldn't anyway... all that shit has to go thru me. Have you seen him threaten anyone else before??? Hammer posts a lot of good business oriented Q & A on YNOT and is a great moderator.

You are the hypocrite here
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We can do that, but I gotta tell you you have some weak points. First, a gallery being accepted doesn't mean a gallery getting lots of clicks. As maybe you know, most TGP are trying to sell their good spots, and the ones not doing it are those that will sell you 2 hits a day. Thus, you want an approximated guaranteed traffic with a market value of 350 bucks a day, right? (50k at 7 per 1000 visits). Add to that gallery design, content and submitting. That would end in a market value of 400$ a day. Lets' say you get a good deal, but why somebody would sell this for less than 150-200 bucks a day when they could keep it for themselves?
Second, the content thing: content is not for use in any domain, you must register it for use on specified domains. Now, for what I understand, you plan to resell, therefore I assume you don't know which domains will have your eventual clients. Then, how do you expect the designer to do it?

So, if you're interested in gallery building, content (we can make arranges on our own) and submitting with high acceptance ratio (but not traffic guarantee) then we're your choice. But it won't be cheap
50K hits to a gallery has a market value of 350 bucks?

Put the crack pipe down and step slowly away from the keyboard. Most people are lucky if 50K gallery hits makes them $35...and then they have to deduct their hosting and content expense from that.
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Guaranteed acceptance = Paid spots

How much cash you want to blow ???

My galleries get accepted ALMOST everywhere, on a consistant basis ... but the only way to GUARANTEE acceptance is to pay for top spots ...
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Sure, LAJ, whatever!

Y-NOT has this hollier than thou attitude about their board. They think of themselves as being above GFY. But where do you go when you want to spam the boards with your latest game BS, http://www.ynotkillzone.com - Right here and all over the other boards, right LAJ. Yet this is what you have posted on Y-NOT:

No Spam! Spam Sunday has been discontinued!
Please do not post spam on this board.

If this double standards crap isn't hypocritical, then call me Larry Flynt!
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Sure, LAJ, whatever!

Y-NOT has this hollier than thou attitude about their board. They think of themselves as being above GFY. But where do you go when you want to spam the boards with your latest game BS, http://www.ynotkillzone.com - Right here and all over the other boards, right LAJ. Yet this is what you have posted on Y-NOT:

No Spam! Spam Sunday has been discontinued!
Please do not post spam on this board.

If this double standards crap isn't hypocritical, then call me Larry Flynt!
HAHAHAHAHA... you really have a habit of speaking without thinking or researching first don't you MicroChick LOL...

We don't think of ourselves being above GFY in the least hon... two entirely different animals. I'll go on the record to say I love it over here. People come to GFY SPECIFICALLY to post or lurk... YNOT offers much more than chat boards. If people want to post announcements and press releases at YNOT we have an announcements chat board built specifically for that at http://chat.ynotmasters.com/press/Th...ite_ID=pre&T=H ... we also offer a specific classifieds area (paid and free) for shorter announcements.

Which reminds me... you neglected to include the rest of what it says at the top of our general board... allow me to help since you seem to like to omit facts in your "arguments"

"Please do not post spam on this board. It will be deleted. Utilize Classifieds if possible. Press releases and valid announcements can be posted in Announcements Board."

Would you like a napkin to wipe the egg off your face or perhaps a Xanax to calm your anger issues cuz it's clear that someone has wounded you in the past??
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Old 06-16-2003, 09:56 AM   #43
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LAJ, mon, you have this terrible habit of changing the subject whenever you don't like what you read. Did you post your game shit in the other board's classified sections or press release sections? Maybe, but it sure was posted on their general boards where you don't allow it on Y-NOT-TEE!

What I am saying, and I will repeat again, since you have a problem remembering the original subject, which was your asshole moderator, ham-hammer - is that behind closed doors, you think your site is far superior to your competition even though nobody visits your board. Look at the numbers.

If you think I am angry, you are a basket case. I don't give a shit about boards, unless they put on airs and start stepping on my First Amendment rights. Your mods are known for being strict and close-minded. Would you like a list of names of webmasters who think Y-NOT sucks?

Now, baby boy, you wipe the shit off your ass and lighten up.
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LAJ, mon, you have this terrible habit of changing the subject whenever you don't like what you read. Did you post your game shit in the other board's classified sections or press release sections? Maybe, but it sure was posted on their general boards where you don't allow it on Y-NOT-TEE!

What I am saying, and I will repeat again, since you have a problem remembering the original subject, which was your asshole moderator, ham-hammer - is that behind closed doors, you think your site is far superior to your competition even though nobody visits your board. Look at the numbers.

If you think I am angry, you are a basket case. I don't give a shit about boards, unless they put on airs and start stepping on my First Amendment rights. Your mods are known for being strict and close-minded. Would you like a list of names of webmasters who think Y-NOT sucks?

Now, baby boy, you wipe the shit off your ass and lighten up.
My god... now I think you may need a breath mint to clean out the diarrhea of the mouth you are now suffering from. LOL... what kind of crack are you smoking?? You make no sense at all and frankly aren't worth my time responding... but hell... i'm feeling charitable today.

FYI you nitwit... any general board I posted on, I hit up the board owner to ask if it was Ok to post on their main board first before doing so... in several instances the owner moved the post i had made on their spam board to their main board without me even asking because they are nice people and understand that I would return a favor for them (or have done so in the past). These are relationships I have cultivated in the past. It's called business sense... learn it... rather than making up assumptions.

And again... tons of people visit our site and utilize our directories, listings and articles and news... we actively post our daily unique visitors every day on our homepage... anywhere from 4000 to 6000 webmasters every day... come to our office in Glendale and verify it for yourself if you want. Money where mouth is. Get a life... I've got work to do rather than sitting here educating someone who obviously doesn't care about the facts. LOL...
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:02 AM   #45
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MicroChick - Dumb and Dumber er

This is a business chat board. Some harmless notifications about what you have and do can hardly be called spam. If it is, then I am guilty too.

Chill, have a cup of coffee, read the posts you want to read, and stay the f**k away from those you think are spam. It is as easy as that. Just like you switch the channel on your 4 channel TV set when commercials come on, or look another way when you sit on the bus on your way to school and get annoyed because there are ads hanging in the window.

Spend your time soliciting your own business, if you have one, and just ignore the occational "spam"... Jeez. Get a life.

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PS. Did I remember to tell you all to go to ContentMansion Full of Red Hot Content!!! ?

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MicroChick,

By the way before I get started, does the word 'micro' in your name mean you're small in stature or small minded.

1. I started this thread trying to find someone that I could hire to perform some work for me. Fortunatley some people have given serious answers and I've found what I needed.

2. How does my coming here asking to hire someone to do some work for me sound like spam? I nevered mentioned the name of my business, I have nothing but a quote in my sig and I have no website linked.

3. The fact that I'm a mod at Ynot has no bearing on what I post on GFY.

4. I have made some negative comments and a joke or two about GFY on Ynot but I certainly wouldn't say that I slam them every chance I get as you suggested.

5. Are you Liberty aka Gooey aka Confucy? Just wondering because you've sure got a lot of nicks. I guess when you are too embarassed to continue using a nick after sticking your foot in your mouth one too many times you change identities.
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Actually I dont think this is such an insane proposition but I think Bake has got the right idea with regard to costings, and then that is down to The Hammers budget.

What he is after is someone who has a consistent track record with TGP's, has a lot of good quality partnerships & is prepared to forego their submits for a regular income set per day/week.

The concept is sound but I have seen submitters get burnt with deals like this in the past.
Let me start by thanking those of you that have made constructive posts and surprisingly that is most of them. Wow!

Lee, you and a few others are correct. As I said in an ealier post I realize what I'm looking for will come with a price. Here's what I was hoping for. I would like to include one gallery with every package I sell. I will pay for the first gallery myself. Hopefully that gallery will make some money for my client. If it does, I would encourage that client to continue buying and submitting galleries as just one more way to make some money. As we all know it's not easy to make money in this business anymore and I think it's important to diversify.

As for 'guaranteeing' acceptance I may have used too strong a word but what I'm getting at is that I need someone with a proven track record. I need to feel comfortable that once the gallery is built and submitted that it will at least get some traffic. If you submit the gallery to 20 TGPs and it doesn't get accepted at any of them I wasted my money and my client sure isn't going to be impressed with the idea of using TGP galleries as a way to make money.

I was also hoping to find one person or company that could provide me with all of the necessary components but if that's a pipe dream I am willing to go to more than one source. I also understand that cotent is sold with domain usage regulations but I would be able to provide the domain with each order.
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Ever hear the expression, "a pack of wolves?"

This all started out when I said that HAMMER puts down Go Fuck Yourself every time a discussion of boards comes up on Y-NOT. Yet, when HAMMER wants to do business, he comes to good ole Go Fuck Yourself to get help.

That is the bottom line. Fuck spam! You all do it.

Y-NOT cannot take criticism. They accuse every webmaster of having a hidden angry agenda when something is said which they don't like. Oystein, you are just a hired hand like LAJ, so take your Y-NOT mentality and stuff it.

Christ, instead of making a joke of all this, you guys get your fannys in an uproar. Go back to your home base and pat each other on the back for ganging up on sweet little Micro Chick. When the day comes that I can't handle weasels like you, then toss me into the black hole.
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LAJ, I might also add that you "protest" much too much.

You sit up a policy on Y-NOT where you scream and ban people who spam their websites and their new stuff. Then you waltz over to your competitor's sites and spam away. I don't give a shit whether they welcomed you or not. You are a spammer!

You smile and shake the hands of webmasters at the events. You get in the spotlight and do your little discussion/educational group thing. What the fuck do you know? You couldn't make it in the pornless straight arena, so you turned to porn. You are a hack and can't write worth a damn. You sit with your finger up your ass in Glendale, California where old people go to die. You drink too much...smoke too much pot, and try to act like your Y-NOT board is special. Hey moron, your board hasn't been a number's gatherer for years. You copy the other boards. You are biased and phony.

I thought I would make your day with all those comments since you seem to get off calling women names.

Now go write your column or interview some shithead we don't care to know. Have a nice day, Mr. Glendale!
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Ever hear the expression, "a pack of wolves?"

This all started out when I said that HAMMER puts down Go Fuck Yourself every time a discussion of boards comes up on Y-NOT. Yet, when HAMMER wants to do business, he comes to good ole Go Fuck Yourself to get help.

That is the bottom line. Fuck spam! You all do it.

Y-NOT cannot take criticism. They accuse every webmaster of having a hidden angry agenda when something is said which they don't like. Oystein, you are just a hired hand like LAJ, so take your Y-NOT mentality and stuff it.

Christ, instead of making a joke of all this, you guys get your fannys in an uproar. Go back to your home base and pat each other on the back for ganging up on sweet little Micro Chick. When the day comes that I can't handle weasels like you, then toss me into the black hole.
if anyone got their fanny in an uproar its you.... why are yo so bent on hammer and ynot? maybe you secretly are in love with them and long for a ynot gangbang, no holes barred, anything goes....
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